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Actually, macbooks cost less than a dell xps of the same specs.
For example: you can get a macbook core 2 duo 2.16 ghz, 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 video card for 1250.
The XPS with almost equivalent specs (2.0 ghz) costs 1400 bux.
Also, if you max out an XPS and compare it to a macbook pro with equivalent specs, it costs roughly the same.
XPS does look nice, no doubt but so does the macbook (opinion).
OS X might be a plague to you, but there are many who think otherwise. The Apple market share isn't increasing for no reason.
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I know a lot of people have been wanting Apple lap tops, but I'd rather stick with the old Windows program. I've been thinking about getting an HP lap top.
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poppy1337 wrote:Actually, macbooks cost less than a dell xps of the same specs.
For example: you can get a macbook core 2 duo 2.16 ghz, 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 video card for 1250.
The XPS with almost equivalent specs (2.0 ghz) costs 1400 bux.
Also, if you max out an XPS and compare it to a macbook pro with equivalent specs, it costs roughly the same.
XPS does look nice, no doubt but so does the macbook (opinion).
OS X might be a plague to you, but there are many who think otherwise. The Apple market share isn't increasing for no reason. poppy1337 are you kidding me? well first of all if you compare macbook (not macbook pro) with a dell laptop, you compare it with the inspiron series, not XPS, and check again cuz there's NO way the price will be the same. Secondly, YOU CAN NOT compare an maxed out XPS with an maxed out Macbook (in this case Macbook Pro). Like I mentioned LONG ago in one of my posts, the best card apple has to offer on a Macbook Pro is a 8600 GT with 256 mb vram, which is in fact a totally useless card for any slightly advanced gaming/intense graphics applications like HD video editing. For XPS, you get the duel 8800 GTX (emphasis on the X) SLi'd up with 1 G vram, and I dont' even bother to go into details of that card... it's just amazing. This is just graphics card, and there's tons of other components that apple just can't offer you like the CPU (That's right, you show me how to get me a Core 2 Extreme on a Mac), physics processor, hard drives (That's right, show me how to get TWO internal hard drive on a MAC), etc... Please at least attempt to do some research before posting next time. Otherwise you will just confuse the noobs and give them the wrong facts.
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I was comparing the Dell XPS M1330 to the Macbook and I don't see any of the above features on that.
Maybe i am missing something, but I could not find a dell xps laptop with the specs you mentioned. I did however find it on an XPS desktop. I was under the impression that we were comparing laptops.
If we are comparing desktops now, then u shld perhaps look at the mac pro and I am sure Mac pro pwnz XPS by miles
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poppy1337 wrote:Actually, macbooks cost less than a dell xps of the same specs.
For example: you can get a macbook core 2 duo 2.16 ghz, 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 video card for 1250.
The XPS with almost equivalent specs (2.0 ghz) costs 1400 bux.
Also, if you max out an XPS and compare it to a macbook pro with equivalent specs, it costs roughly the same.
XPS does look nice, no doubt but so does the macbook (opinion).
OS X might be a plague to you, but there are many who think otherwise. The Apple market share isn't increasing for no reason. You are wrong. looking at the wrong models (possibly the overpriced "RED" brand or something..." The XPS has a real graphic card, a sickkk on (a few hundred on the "media accelorator easy" The XPS has base 3gb hard drive, maybe 4gb in that price range. In terms of maxing out, I don't the macbook can keep up.
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Who cares its like comparing apples and oranges. I'm commenting from an alienware desktop, but in a few months I will be picking up a macbook pro.
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25i2o wrote:poppy1337 wrote:Actually, macbooks cost less than a dell xps of the same specs.
For example: you can get a macbook core 2 duo 2.16 ghz, 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 video card for 1250.
The XPS with almost equivalent specs (2.0 ghz) costs 1400 bux.
Also, if you max out an XPS and compare it to a macbook pro with equivalent specs, it costs roughly the same.
XPS does look nice, no doubt but so does the macbook (opinion).
OS X might be a plague to you, but there are many who think otherwise. The Apple market share isn't increasing for no reason. poppy1337 are you kidding me? well first of all if you compare macbook (not macbook pro) with a dell laptop, you compare it with the inspiron series, not XPS, and check again cuz there's NO way the price will be the same. Secondly, YOU CAN NOT compare an maxed out XPS with an maxed out Macbook (in this case Macbook Pro). Like I mentioned LONG ago in one of my posts, the best card apple has to offer on a Macbook Pro is a 8600 GT with 256 mb vram, which is in fact a totally useless card for any slightly advanced gaming/intense graphics applications like HD video editing. For XPS, you get the duel 8800 GTX (emphasis on the X) SLi'd up with 1 G vram, and I dont' even bother to go into details of that card... it's just amazing. This is just graphics card, and there's tons of other components that apple just can't offer you like the CPU (That's right, you show me how to get me a Core 2 Extreme on a Mac), physics processor, hard drives (That's right, show me how to get TWO internal hard drive on a MAC), etc... Please at least attempt to do some research before posting next time. Otherwise you will just confuse the noobs and give them the wrong facts. You have fun lugging your 10+lb laptop around. It is very powerful. It's not very portable. It's also more powerful than most people need, and the 8600GT is perfectly fine for anyone who doesn't need to play the latest super graphically intense games at very high settings - it's more than most people need (Integrated graphics will still run many older games, and use much less battery power). Even for people who are interested in playing games it will run anything out there today. Most people don't care about being able to run the latest games on max settings. The 1730 may be a good choice if you want something that's more portable than a desktop and very powerful, but you would not want to be carrying that thing around on a regular basis. The XPS 1730 which you are obviously talking about is really in no way comparable to the Macbooks. The 1330 and 1530 which the others are talking about are. Oh, and for reference you can get the 8600GT with 512mb RAM on the Macbook Pro. Oh, and to eco, I sure hope the XPS has more than a 3gb hard drive. Were you perhaps referring to RAM?
 
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Pete wrote:Who cares its like comparing apples and oranges. I'm commenting from an alienware desktop, but in a few months I will be picking up a macbook pro. I used to think alienware was good... now... I hear terrible things, how is yours?
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Kaylya wrote:25i2o wrote:poppy1337 wrote:Actually, macbooks cost less than a dell xps of the same specs.
For example: you can get a macbook core 2 duo 2.16 ghz, 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 video card for 1250.
The XPS with almost equivalent specs (2.0 ghz) costs 1400 bux.
Also, if you max out an XPS and compare it to a macbook pro with equivalent specs, it costs roughly the same.
XPS does look nice, no doubt but so does the macbook (opinion).
OS X might be a plague to you, but there are many who think otherwise. The Apple market share isn't increasing for no reason. poppy1337 are you kidding me? well first of all if you compare macbook (not macbook pro) with a dell laptop, you compare it with the inspiron series, not XPS, and check again cuz there's NO way the price will be the same. Secondly, YOU CAN NOT compare an maxed out XPS with an maxed out Macbook (in this case Macbook Pro). Like I mentioned LONG ago in one of my posts, the best card apple has to offer on a Macbook Pro is a 8600 GT with 256 mb vram, which is in fact a totally useless card for any slightly advanced gaming/intense graphics applications like HD video editing. For XPS, you get the duel 8800 GTX (emphasis on the X) SLi'd up with 1 G vram, and I dont' even bother to go into details of that card... it's just amazing. This is just graphics card, and there's tons of other components that apple just can't offer you like the CPU (That's right, you show me how to get me a Core 2 Extreme on a Mac), physics processor, hard drives (That's right, show me how to get TWO internal hard drive on a MAC), etc... Please at least attempt to do some research before posting next time. Otherwise you will just confuse the noobs and give them the wrong facts. You have fun lugging your 10+lb laptop around. It is very powerful. It's not very portable. It's also more powerful than most people need, and the 8600GT is perfectly fine for anyone who doesn't need to play the latest super graphically intense games at very high settings - it's more than most people need (Integrated graphics will still run many older games, and use much less battery power). Even for people who are interested in playing games it will run anything out there today. Most people don't care about being able to run the latest games on max settings. The 1730 may be a good choice if you want something that's more portable than a desktop and very powerful, but you would not want to be carrying that thing around on a regular basis. The XPS 1730 which you are obviously talking about is really in no way comparable to the Macbooks. The 1330 and 1530 which the others are talking about are. Oh, and for reference you can get the 8600GT with 512mb RAM on the Macbook Pro. Oh, and to eco, I sure hope the XPS has more than a 3gb hard drive. Were you perhaps referring to RAM? haha duh... im on no sleep. I don't think you can get a 3gb hard drive for under a few gs now... that stuff prolly a valuable antique.
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Whatever you guys do, avoid MDG at all costs. If you have to glue an abacus to a typewriter and lug that around to university, do it.
I'm surprised MDG is still allowed to be in business with all of their shady practices, false & bait and switch advertising, BBB complaints, etc.
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eco wrote:Pete wrote:Who cares its like comparing apples and oranges. I'm commenting from an alienware desktop, but in a few months I will be picking up a macbook pro. I used to think alienware was good... now... I hear terrible things, how is yours? uhh I could take it or leave it, nothing special, personally after using my buddy's macbook, I will be picking one up for university.
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Generally, I'd tell you "I hope its not made by apple" cuz i hate them, but, ya thats a different issue (money, suck ;) ) lol.
I hope its not a macbook air... useless
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Get a macbook, it has good battery life for the cost, and the fact you can dual boot makes it a sure choice.
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Actually, the battery life is just a 6 cell. I have found my battery to last me 3-4 hours on OS X but only about 2-3 hours on windows under standard activity.
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I'm going to be an undergrad and I'm looking for a laptop. I'd use it for windows xp probably, with microsoft office. I'd also have my favourite internet game on it-Conquer Online. What laptop would be best for this? Please include what RAM, battery, etc. would be best, if you can. Thank you! And please keep in mind I'm going to university and therefore am on a budget! 
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dell.ca, lapotp, xps, gaming laptops
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Macbooks are stupidly overpriced, my friend just got her new macbook and told me the specs and price, then i went on dell's website and designed a laptop with the EXACT same specs for ~$450 less, with no sale or anything.
Best laptops on the market IMO (all technology ratings are highly opinionated, so i'm trying to be as unbiased as possible but its still an opinion) are Sony Vaio Notebooks, but they are fairly expensive, or any custom laptop by Voodoo or Alienware, but once again they are very expensive. If you're on a budget, which i'm assuming you are if you're a new student, HP Pavillion series and the Toshiba Satellite series are both GREAT buys. Dell is also a very good brand contrary to popular belief, but yes, they DO seem to have more hardware problems then most and the customer service, though it is improving quickly, still isn't very good so i wouldn't recommend one unless you know how to dismantle and reassemble a computer yourself so you don't have to go through them. if you do get a Dell go for the Inspiron series, the XPS is more for high power gaming and gets a little pricey, but i guess if you can afford it they are great machines. DO NOT buy anything from Acer or MGD, they use terrible parts.
Also a few tips for computer buying in general: make sure you have a dedicated graphics card, not an integrated one, they suck. also, don't fall into advertising traps about lightweight or ultraportable laptops, the bulkiest ones are what, 14" by 12" by 1" tops and at MOST 10lbs? thats still really, really small, I have binders and textbooks bigger then that, still from highschool.
For a good school work only computer you'll want at least a 100GB+ hard drive, 1GB RAM, a basic 128MB video card, and a 17" screen is always nice. also, go for a 12-cell battery if available, it will give you around a 9 hour battery life just using basic programs like word, so if you're taking notes in class with this it should last you over a full day of lectures without needing to charge. or if thats not an available option, you could just opt to buy a spare battery and switch them out if one dies if you can't charge during the day. if you can, all the more power to you, a bit of extra coin in your pocket. Try to find something with windows XP, Vista is still buggy and the different levels of it are confusing as to what programs it comes with, and mac is well, i don't want to start a flame war so i won't say anything about macs other then get windows XP. also, make sure it has some kind of WiFi card built in, many universities have WiFi hotspots available to students, or even throughout the entire school or within certain classrooms.
thats about all i can think of for now, if you have any questions feel free.
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I was just in the apple store today, trying to convince my self macbook air's don't suck balls. All mac laptops are at least 450 (as you said) overpriced, plus, I don't like alot of them but thats opinion.
For "the best" Dell XPS should be able to go at least head to head with a vaio or alienware, I'm unfamiliar with voodoo. All of these are expensive, expecially sony (again, same specs, about 400 more than a dell, also, sony waranties are terrible... holes like swiss cheese).
Toshiba satellite. I don't know where you were looking man, they looked WAY overpriced.. like more than any others, maybe im wrong tho.
Dell repairing (or sending parts) is fast, regardless of how bad it is on the phone.
I have a 3 year old inspiron, It's okay, they are a bit hefty, and lower power, but unless you're looking for high tech, thats fine for you.
NOTE: If this is the case, ALL of the above laptops are out of your range. dell XPS, most sony vaio, macbooks (cuz their macs), toshiba satelite, alienware, voodoo.
If this is what youre looking for, the XPS is less overpriced than many, and for specs, they all have about the same choices (macs are lower power and have fewer choices, macbook air is way lower, and has none)
You'll know the graphics card is dedicated if its ATI or NVIDIA, and has a memory value attached to it (like 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8600M GT).
Don't worry about hard drive, everything ut macbook air has enough. RAM, I'd advise this is where you drop some dough. Get 3 or even maybe 4gb. RAM is important, and vista uses ALOT. Be careful with a 12-cell battery, it will often hang off the back, and get in the way, ask the company.
I'd advise xp also, but you're probably going ot be forced into vista. It's fine though, it'll be good soon.
I don't know of a laptop that doesn't have WiFi...
GL!
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Hi, I have a ThinkPad T61 with XP pro at home that no one uses... I was wondering if I should just use that laptop for undergrad or should I get a new one? If so, which model would you suggest??
My budget is around $1000
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headstrong wrote:Hi, I have a ThinkPad T61 with XP pro at home that no one uses... I was wondering if I should just use that laptop for undergrad or should I get a new one? If so, which model would you suggest??
My budget is around $1000 If you're not looking to game with it, I think your T61 should hold up fine.
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