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Kaylya
Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:17:15 PM

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scarboro wrote:
Kaylya wrote:


Everyone I know with a Mac is a guy. Most of them are in Computer Science ;P


WOW,
I cannot believe WHAT I have heard.
COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENTS CHOSE MAC OVER WINDOWS?

There is something seriously wrong with them seeing as the compability of most IDE's is WINDOWS-based.
Let alone the wide array of games that are unavailable in Mac and how the user-customization is kept at a bare minimum.
If anything, COMP SCI STUDENTS should be running LINUX on a nice AMD machine.


I know 3 CS professors with Macbook Pro's, and I can't say I know which computer very many professors use personally. I know several people with Mac's. I'm not personally a Mac user, nor am I big into Linux, but I can assure you there are plenty of CS people out there who love their Macs. And plenty more who hate Windows.

The thing with OSX is that fundamentally it's built on *nix, which lots of computer science people prefer to Windows. And a Mac can run Windows if neccesary; it can also run other OS's like Linux. I'm not sure where you get that most IDE's are Windows based. I suppose I can't really refute your claim since there's a lot of things out there that constitute an IDE. Most of the stuff I've used (Eclipse mainly) is very much cross platform, and if anything there's a bias towards *nix. Most CS students/profs aren't making Windows exclusive GUI programs, which probably is somewhat different from the "real world".

I'm also somewhat interested to learn why you seem to know so much about what CS students should be doing as you appear to be a high school student looking into life sciences? Oh, by the way, I'm currently doing a Master's in CS.

scarboro
Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:51:22 PM
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Kaylya wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Kaylya wrote:


Everyone I know with a Mac is a guy. Most of them are in Computer Science ;P


WOW,
I cannot believe WHAT I have heard.
COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENTS CHOSE MAC OVER WINDOWS?

There is something seriously wrong with them seeing as the compability of most IDE's is WINDOWS-based.
Let alone the wide array of games that are unavailable in Mac and how the user-customization is kept at a bare minimum.
If anything, COMP SCI STUDENTS should be running LINUX on a nice AMD machine.


I know 3 CS professors with Macbook Pro's, and I can't say I know which computer very many professors use personally. I know several people with Mac's. I'm not personally a Mac user, nor am I big into Linux, but I can assure you there are plenty of CS people out there who love their Macs. And plenty more who hate Windows.

The thing with OSX is that fundamentally it's built on *nix, which lots of computer science people prefer to Windows. And a Mac can run Windows if neccesary; it can also run other OS's like Linux. I'm not sure where you get that most IDE's are Windows based. I suppose I can't really refute your claim since there's a lot of things out there that constitute an IDE. Most of the stuff I've used (Eclipse mainly) is very much cross platform, and if anything there's a bias towards *nix. Most CS students/profs aren't making Windows exclusive GUI programs, which probably is somewhat different from the "real world".

I'm also somewhat interested to learn why you seem to know so much about what CS students should be doing as you appear to be a high school student looking into life sciences? Oh, by the way, I'm currently doing a Master's in CS.


Indeed, you know how to use the feature 'user's last 10 posts' and read.
It's not that im some sort of pretentious 17 year old who thinks he knows so much, its just that I spend some of my free time and school time learning programming and in the macho environment that is grade 12 computer science, you learn to be prejudiced against anything that isn't made from Microsoft. Dam did I pick the wrong girl to fight with though angel. MASTERS IN CS? Dam thats nice. Might I ask what languages most CS 'pros' program in? They had us learn VB, ew.frown

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Kaylya
Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:20:09 PM

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scarboro wrote:


Indeed, you know how to use the feature 'user's last 10 posts' and read.
It's not that im some sort of pretentious 17 year old who thinks he knows so much, its just that I spend some of my free time and school time learning programming and in the macho environment that is grade 12 computer science, you learn to be prejudiced against anything that isn't made from Microsoft. Dam did I pick the wrong girl to fight with though angel. MASTERS IN CS? Dam thats nice. Might I ask what languages most CS 'pros' program in? They had us learn VB, ew.frown


I hope I didn't come across too mean, but I did feel the need to emphasize that you are arguing with the wrong person on the question of whether or not people in CS use macs smile I definitely know a lot of CS people (students and professors) who are very anti-microsoft and very pro-Linux and/or OSX. I can't say I know anyone who is very pro-Microsoft (although I expect the opinions within Academia are a bit different than those in Industry on the matter ;)). Personally I follow the path of least resistance which leads me to using Windows and only rarely doing *nix things.

Java, C and C++ are probably the 3 most common languages. And then there's a ton of other languages. I think they do VB in the "Computing for Business" courses at Ottawa U and I don't think it was taught in anything at Acadia (although maybe they went into it in some of the courses for non CS people). I've only done VB in terms of Excel macros, which I looked at for a bit and then ended up learning Perl to do what I wanted (which involved calculating averages and combining data together in a particular way). But it is useful to know VB because of the link to Excel macros, and it is a langugage that gets used in the real world by real developers too.


zheng89120
Posted: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:18:33 PM

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I think the brand of laptop tends to be overrated. I would consider how much you get for how much money first. Most brands of laptops are reliable and come with one year warranty. The specifications I would look for are a true Dual-core+ CPU (quad-core laptop CPUs should be coming, if not out already), 2-4 GB of ram, 250+ GB of space, and a GeForce 8600+ if you want to play games. The monitor should be large, the laptop should be small and light, you decide on balance. And oh yeah, get one with a long battery life, say 8+ lithium-ion cells.
Butterknife
Posted: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:52:02 AM
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I had the same question. For graduation I'm going to be getting a laptop that's around 1000 dollars. Does anyone have any good recommendations? I want to be able to do the usual stuff, take notes, watch movies. I also want it to be able to play starcraft 2 >.>, which I don't assume will be too computer intensive, because blizzard always makes their games fairly friendly to older machines. What is the best kind of laptop I might be able to get for 1000 dollars or less? or a little bit more than 1k, but not too much xD. I need adviceeeee.

I've seen Hp, and stuff like that. I'm not too aware though, I need some helpss.
ameko
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songforthegirl
Posted: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:55:37 PM
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ive already done my first-year-laptop buying, and am entering second year in the fall.
my advice foremost is;
ALL OF YOU GOING INTO FIRST YEAR WHO THINK YOU NEEED TO PURCHASE A LAPTOP, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED ONE.

i bring my laptop to class perhaps 30% of the time.
laptops are good if..
your prof talks insanely fast and you can't keep up taking notes by hand,
if you want to spend your lecture on msn or playing solitaire and learning NOTHING,
you want to work on an assignment between classes that you already have started on your computer.
you do need a new computer and have a predisposition towards laptops- because yes, you will need a computer, but a desktop works just as well.

my advice is if you are thinking of ordering a dell- do it way before the summer months. do it now for gods sake. i ordered mine just as school was starting, and didn't recieve it for TWO MONTHS.
if youre thinking of buying an acer- just don't. a large majority of those i know who went with this cheap option had their laptop in repair for most of the school year, as they have a tendancy to turn to crap, and quick.
personally i wish id've gone with HP, toshiba, or the macbook. but the macbook is quite pricey.

also- don't forget to factor in weight, storage capacity (try for 2+ GB), features and etc.
Butterknife
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:13:42 PM
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songforthegirl wrote:
ive already done my first-year-laptop buying, and am entering second year in the fall.
my advice foremost is;
ALL OF YOU GOING INTO FIRST YEAR WHO THINK YOU NEEED TO PURCHASE A LAPTOP, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED ONE.

i bring my laptop to class perhaps 30% of the time.
laptops are good if..
your prof talks insanely fast and you can't keep up taking notes by hand,
if you want to spend your lecture on msn or playing solitaire and learning NOTHING,
you want to work on an assignment between classes that you already have started on your computer.
you do need a new computer and have a predisposition towards laptops- because yes, you will need a computer, but a desktop works just as well.

my advice is if you are thinking of ordering a dell- do it way before the summer months. do it now for gods sake. i ordered mine just as school was starting, and didn't recieve it for TWO MONTHS.
if youre thinking of buying an acer- just don't. a large majority of those i know who went with this cheap option had their laptop in repair for most of the school year, as they have a tendancy to turn to crap, and quick.
personally i wish id've gone with HP, toshiba, or the macbook. but the macbook is quite pricey.

also- don't forget to factor in weight, storage capacity (try for 2+ GB), features and etc.


Well that was pretty informative xD. Wouldn't it be useful to have a laptop if you ever want to work in the library or something? Being able to take your work on the go? If a laptop really isn't necessary, I'd rather get a desktop then :/, but if it is helpful I guess I'm going to go with an HP, toshiba ( macbook's are going to be too expensive for me x--x ).
Stringer
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:24:00 PM

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Butterknife wrote:
songforthegirl wrote:
ive already done my first-year-laptop buying, and am entering second year in the fall.
my advice foremost is;
ALL OF YOU GOING INTO FIRST YEAR WHO THINK YOU NEEED TO PURCHASE A LAPTOP, YOU REALLY DON'T NEED ONE.

i bring my laptop to class perhaps 30% of the time.
laptops are good if..
your prof talks insanely fast and you can't keep up taking notes by hand,
if you want to spend your lecture on msn or playing solitaire and learning NOTHING,
you want to work on an assignment between classes that you already have started on your computer.
you do need a new computer and have a predisposition towards laptops- because yes, you will need a computer, but a desktop works just as well.

my advice is if you are thinking of ordering a dell- do it way before the summer months. do it now for gods sake. i ordered mine just as school was starting, and didn't recieve it for TWO MONTHS.
if youre thinking of buying an acer- just don't. a large majority of those i know who went with this cheap option had their laptop in repair for most of the school year, as they have a tendancy to turn to crap, and quick.
personally i wish id've gone with HP, toshiba, or the macbook. but the macbook is quite pricey.

also- don't forget to factor in weight, storage capacity (try for 2+ GB), features and etc.


Well that was pretty informative xD. Wouldn't it be useful to have a laptop if you ever want to work in the library or something? Being able to take your work on the go? If a laptop really isn't necessary, I'd rather get a desktop then :/, but if it is helpful I guess I'm going to go with an HP, toshiba ( macbook's are going to be too expensive for me x--x ).


There are many computers at the library and all over campus that you can use.

-Stringer
bijanv
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:51:15 PM
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Butterknife wrote:

Well that was pretty informative xD. Wouldn't it be useful to have a laptop if you ever want to work in the library or something? Being able to take your work on the go? If a laptop really isn't necessary, I'd rather get a desktop then :/, but if it is helpful I guess I'm going to go with an HP, toshiba ( macbook's are going to be too expensive for me x--x ).


For me there have been sooooo many times I've been glad I have a laptop and just the comfort of being it to take it wherever you go... just go sit in starbucks and do your work instead of stuck in your room for 3, 4+ hours is a huge +

I don't think I'm ever going back to desktop again!

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mike_
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:28:25 PM

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how much does internet at starbucks cost??

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Shismo
Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:56:22 PM

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mike_ wrote:
how much does internet at starbucks cost??
I THINK you have to have a plan arranged with bell. I could be wrong. Its been a while since I've been there (the coffee tastes soooo bad! smile)


As fora computer, I'm very happy with my Macbook. Had it for almost two years and its great, and the fact that it can run Windows for the occasion that I'd need it it pretty handy.
meredith
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:51:31 AM
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poppy1337 wrote:
If you don't see yourself using mac os x, then don't even bother buying a macbook. Buy a light HP with good specs. Will give you more bang for the buck! I personally have a macbook and couldn't be happier but that's because I love leopard os x.


What is mac os x??
char1234
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:52:52 AM
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I've heard that mapbooks are really good and have the least problems compared to all the others.
bijanv
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:03:12 AM
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mike_ wrote:
how much does internet at starbucks cost??


not sure.. but one of my friends works for Bell and has a test account that I use from time to time lol don't tell anyone ;)

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lorirose
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:11:05 AM
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I love my macbook!
bijanv
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I love my ASUS!

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bijanv
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:56:27 AM
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I love my PC (ASUS)! Would never buy a Mac! Higher performance than top of the line macbook pro's and costs $1000 less, plus I have OS X , Ubuntu and Vista running on it problem free ;)

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sneakyhobbit
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:37:10 PM

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how are the sony vaio laptops?
i don't think i wanna get a mac since it cant run certain programs, right?
I'm going into business--so any suggessstions? smile
thankssss

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bluebell_pixies2
Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:11:11 PM
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I have a sony vaio, and for the most part I'm happy with it. My only really problem was that it came with a lot of bloatwear. Since I'm not that great with computers it took me a while to figure out what to keep and what to get rid of. I like everything else about it though, and haven't had any issues with vista.


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