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ARMY101 wrote:The student government serves absolutely no useful purpose that could not have just as easily been done by the administration, with out the mob mentality of forcing the school to do what it says or else. They're just a lobby group trying to make the administration concede so that the student union can do what it pleases. Our Students Union brought in the U-Pass. I would say that's pretty useful. And I highly doubt they're shoving this stuff down your throats. Perhaps there's a poster or a table set up in some of the buildings, but I don't understand how it's so inconvenient to you.
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ARMY101 wrote:taishici wrote:I know that the "K" in Carleton stands for Quality. Moron, there's no 'K' in Carleton. It's a joke..
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monica.hale wrote:ARMY101 wrote:taishici wrote:I know that the "K" in Carleton stands for Quality. Moron, there's no 'K' in Carleton. It's a joke.. Well it was a terrible failure.
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karla wrote:Our Students Union brought in the U-Pass. I would say that's pretty useful. And I highly doubt they're shoving this stuff down your throats. Perhaps there's a poster or a table set up in some of the buildings, but I don't understand how it's so inconvenient to you. I don't deny that unions have done useful things, as they have. I just don't like the idea of forcing all of the students to join a union so that they can then hold the administration hostage if they do something against what the union wants. If students want to play politics then they can, but they shouldn't be able to drag me into it, represent me or my faculty or my decisions, or automatically tack money onto my tuition to support their union's actions. Our student union (and, as I've found, all student unions who are also members of the New Democra... er... CFS  ) has been extremely pushy and confrontational about anything they want to have happen. They invade our lecture halls to make annoucements during class time, they stand outside of food courts to hand out flyers, they position themselves at entrances and exits to residences, and just generally blanket the area to make sure you support what they want to have happen. (Oh, and anyone who disagrees is black listed and silenced, as Carleton has tried to do with Palestinian discussions.) They're very inconvenient.
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ARMY101 wrote:karla wrote:Our Students Union brought in the U-Pass. I would say that's pretty useful. And I highly doubt they're shoving this stuff down your throats. Perhaps there's a poster or a table set up in some of the buildings, but I don't understand how it's so inconvenient to you. I don't deny that unions have done useful things, as they have. I just don't like the idea of forcing all of the students to join a union so that they can then hold the administration hostage if they do something against what the union wants. If students want to play politics then they can, but they shouldn't be able to drag me into it, represent me or my faculty or my decisions, or automatically tack money onto my tuition to support their union's actions. Our student union (and, as I've found, all student unions who are also members of the New Democra... er... CFS ) has been extremely pushy and confrontational about anything they want to have happen. They invade our lecture halls to make annoucements during class time, they stand outside of food courts to hand out flyers, they position themselves at entrances and exits to residences, and just generally blanket the area to make sure you support what they want to have happen. (Oh, and anyone who disagrees is black listed and silenced, as Carleton has tried to do with Palestinian discussions.) They're very inconvenient. Oh yeah, how dare they try to keep tuition prices down and advocate on behalf of students? The school administrations manage to ****up enough even with the students union on their backs, I would be frightened to see what would happen if there was no such thing.
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Like I said, if they want to play politics they can go ahead, but leave me out of it. If they want to get 20 students to go protest on Parliament Hill about tuition prices then they can go for it. But to allow enormous mobs of people shouting "drop fees" and all the other lobby organizations they support gets very annoying - I don't want to hear it. I want to go to school and learn, without concern as to what the next racist and stupid move my student government is going to make. As for our administration, I haven't seen them screw up yet
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ARMY101 wrote:Like I said, if they want to play politics they can go ahead, but leave me out of it. If they want to get 20 students to go protest on Parliament Hill about tuition prices then they can go for it. But to allow enormous mobs of people shouting "drop fees" and all the other lobby organizations they support gets very annoying - I don't want to hear it. I want to go to school and learn, without concern as to what the next racist and stupid move my student government is going to make. As for our administration, I haven't seen them screw up yet Then ignore them??? I don't understand how it's such a big deal. It's not like they've assigned someone to follow you around campus bugging you to support their cause. It's no different than any other organization that might set up a booth in a university building. Yes we all know that you don't enjoy having fun or taking part in anything other than school or work. What an exciting person you are. And I highly doubt your administration hasn't done something stupid. Perhaps you just don't pay close enough attention.
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How can I ignore them? It's not like I can just not go to visit their booths if I don't like what they're saying (this is what I do with the several tables set up for a student association for this and a group against that, and it works quite well - if I'm interested, I'll go over and look at their posters and have a chat. If not, they leave me alone - perfect!). That is very different than a student association that comes into our lecture halls to talk to us about supporting _________ or how we should really be outraged at _________. I can't ignore that. They're impeding on the time and money I have invested in my education. If I wanted to give more money to Charity X, I would have done that. I don't need a 10 minute speech on how for only $3 a week I could help get water to a village. karla wrote:And I highly doubt your administration hasn't done something stupid. Perhaps you just don't pay close enough attention. The only stupid thing our administration has done is allowed a student and residence union to be formed in the first place
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You are the most frustrating person ever. I have never been annoyed by someone so much. I don't know how you do it.
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lol, thanks?...  I'm not trying to annoy you or frustrate you, I'm just asking why a student government should be allowed to force themselves on me to express what they want to do when I never asked for it in the first place. Why are they so special that they can add fair amounts of money to my tuition?
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Well good luck having a university that functions well without a students union. That's all I can say.
Might as well say the same thing about the Canadian government. I don't want to have to pay taxes. And how dare they interrupt the view of my streets with election signs. How inconvenient. I never asked for it.
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ARMY101 wrote:How can I ignore them? It's not like I can just not go to visit their booths if I don't like what they're saying (this is what I do with the several tables set up for a student association for this and a group against that, and it works quite well - if I'm interested, I'll go over and look at their posters and have a chat. If not, they leave me alone - perfect!). That is very different than a student association that comes into our lecture halls to talk to us about supporting _________ or how we should really be outraged at _________. I can't ignore that. They're impeding on the time and money I have invested in my education. If I wanted to give more money to Charity X, I would have done that. I don't need a 10 minute speech on how for only $3 a week I could help get water to a village. karla wrote:And I highly doubt your administration hasn't done something stupid. Perhaps you just don't pay close enough attention. The only stupid thing our administration has done is allowed a student and residence union to be formed in the first place ...hey... is your name Chip by any chance?
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SwobyJ wrote:...hey... is your name Chip by any chance? Nope. karla wrote:Well good luck having a university that functions well without a students union. That's all I can say. How can you say that? Have you had time to compare a Canadian university without a student union to one that has a student union to see that the one with the union is so much more amazing? Quote:Might as well say the same thing about the Canadian government. I don't want to have to pay taxes. And how dare they interrupt the view of my streets with election signs. How inconvenient. I never asked for it. It's not the same. As a Canadian citizen the politicians in Ottawa automatically represent me, so I should vote for them. They're also fair elections held to determine the course of action the government can take, whereas our most recent elections were corrupted. Finally, the very fact that I don't want to and shouldn't have to be a part of the union is the reason they shouldn't be able to harass me. If anything, they can have their own little union corner to talk to buddies but other than that, leave me out of it.
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ARMY101 wrote:Quote:Might as well say the same thing about the Canadian government. I don't want to have to pay taxes. And how dare they interrupt the view of my streets with election signs. How inconvenient. I never asked for it. It's not the same. As a Canadian citizen the politicians in Ottawa automatically represent me, so I should vote for them. They're also fair elections held to determine the course of action the government can take, whereas our most recent elections were corrupted. Finally, the very fact that I don't want to and shouldn't have to be a part of the union is the reason they shouldn't be able to harass me. If anything, they can have their own little union corner to talk to buddies but other than that, leave me out of it. And the students union doesn't represent you? If the elections were truly corrupted they would have been redone. Also just because you don't WANT to be a part of it, doesn't mean you don't get to. Don't go to university if you feel so strongly about it. Like I said, it's not like they follow you around bugging you. They do a bit of advertising, so what. Are you going to complain about every company that has a TV commercial? A poster? A billboard? Your argument is just stupid.
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No, the student's union doesn't represent me. It's a few people who think they should be allowed to bully the school system and make them conform to whatever they want. They don't represent me - never have.
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karla wrote:Don't go to university if you feel so strongly about it. Like I said, it's not like they follow you around bugging you. They do a bit of advertising, so what. Are you going to complain about every company that has a TV commercial? A poster? A billboard? Your argument is just stupid. lol, I should drop out of university just because the annoying student union won't leave me alone? That's a little extreme. I'm not going to give up my future career and current education just because the union doesn't work. I don't complain every time there's a commercial - I can change the channel. With the student union, they're everywhere - they don't give me a choice on whether or not I want to hear from them or consider what they have to say. They just walk right into the lecture hall and waste our time.
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Carleton Banks is hilarious man.
Much funnier than that guy from
west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Startin making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'
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I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said "Fresh", and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought man forget it yo homes to Bel-Air
I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'yo homes smell ya later'
Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air
*groovy music*
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List of important Carletons. 1. Carleton Banks 2. Carleton the Mascot 3. Carleton St. 4. Carleton University ARMY101 wrote:monica.hale wrote:ARMY101 wrote:taishici wrote:I know that the "K" in Carleton stands for Quality. Moron, there's no 'K' in Carleton. It's a joke.. Well it was a terrible failure. That was a great joke.
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You list Carleton as your second-best application request and you treat it like this?
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