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qwertqwert
Posted: December 17, 2008 1:16:06 AM

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Why are you responding to me as if I said Adu's post?

I said that I don't like rap as music itself. Nothing to do with poor people.

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What's to say that the particular field requires the person(s) to maximize their potential? A crude example would be Newton as a janitor.


Except that the world and society are generally very predictable. People who are very intelligent will typically go into fields which utilize and challenge their intelligence. You won't find many people who are capable of becoming, say, doctors, becoming janitors. This may have used to be the case, but certainly not nowadays.

That's why you can see a clear trend in the table.

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Adu
Posted: December 17, 2008 1:29:52 AM

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ok i made hat post a offensive but let me put it to you this way, the majority of people who enjoy rap music are people who can relate to what the raper is saying and that just happens to be the lower class. Most of the time they are always talkign about how their child hood was bad but they prevailed. sadly that is the story for alot of people. How ever then you have the really crap rap which is about some dude banging his jerkes and hoes *this post was probably censored

i think that artists like eminem and akon have some good music and i think some him hop is good but alot of the rap that i hear is just rubbish it isnt musicly talented and it many times has the most pointless theme

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GGG
Posted: December 17, 2008 1:33:43 AM
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Question: isn't 50% a pass for engineering students?
qwertqwert
Posted: December 17, 2008 1:33:58 AM

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Adu, can you please write your posts properly? Little things like capitalization and.....proper spelling go a long way without much effort.



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bimmer35
Posted: December 17, 2008 2:23:52 AM

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qwertqwert wrote:
Why are you responding to me as if I said Adu's post?

I said that I don't like rap as music itself. Nothing to do with poor people.

Quote:
What's to say that the particular field requires the person(s) to maximize their potential? A crude example would be Newton as a janitor.


Except that the world and society are generally very predictable. People who are very intelligent will typically go into fields which utilize and challenge their intelligence. You won't find many people who are capable of becoming, say, doctors, becoming janitors. This may have used to be the case, but certainly not nowadays.

That's why you can see a clear trend in the table.


Because you stated "it isn't racist to point out the obvious" implying that Adu's statement was correct. And since you share the same sentiment, it is the same as you saying it.

I would disagree with you about the world and society being predictable, but I will agree with you on the assumption that most people will pursue gradually challenging obstacles which force them to utilize their potential (same reason why people leave easy, high paying jobs for tough, high paying jobs). Admittedly, I don't know much about the IQ test, so I'm still skeptical as to how the test accurately tests intelligence and how or if it comes into effect during everyday work. Maybe a high IQ doesn't matter as long as you know what you're doing (ie. know which wire to connect, which bolt to screw) or maybe it requires a high IQ to even KNOW which wires to connect and which bolts to screw (shrug)? So I will change my status to neutral on this case until someone proves otherwise.

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qwertqwert
Posted: December 17, 2008 2:38:33 AM

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Because you stated "it isn't racist to point out the obvious" implying that Adu's statement was correct.


You're right, I shouldn't have said that.

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Maybe a high IQ doesn't matter as long as you know what you're doing (ie. know which wire to connect, which bolt to screw) or maybe it requires a high IQ to even KNOW which wires to connect and which bolts to screw (shrug)?


I've personally done a lot of research and reading on that topic and I have my own opinions on that, but I don't want to get into a whole discussion about it. But, for example, the more problems solving or abstract thinking is required, the higher the requirement would be. This is reflected in the chart.

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Adu
Posted: December 17, 2008 3:34:42 AM

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well i could but i just don't care any more, im sorry for saying that comment and i have to do some math so...

Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Kaylya
Posted: December 17, 2008 9:54:56 AM

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bimmer35 wrote:


1) I don't think the IQ of a person in a field necessarily equates to a higher/lower difficulty of the field. What's to say that the particular field requires the person(s) to maximize their potential? A crude example would be Newton as a janitor. It doesn't make him any less intelligent, but it certainly doesn't make janitorial work more difficult.


I believe you're thinking of Will in Good Will Hunting. I'm pretty sure Janitor didn't exist as a job title in the 1600s.

FAQ's:
1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes.
2. Anything else: Google it before asking.
Kaylya
Posted: December 17, 2008 10:12:30 AM

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GGG wrote:
Question: isn't 50% a pass for engineering students?


What constitutes a "pass" varies by school and perhaps program. By which I mean here "the mark required for the course to count within your program" - often there's a range where the mark won't count for credit towards your program, but it will count towards a degree if you switch to a different program. At U of T it appears as if they need at least 50% in each course and 60% average in the session in order to continue and not be put on probation. U of T does not tend to have particularly strict requirements for things like this from what I've seen.

FAQ's:
1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes.
2. Anything else: Google it before asking.
bimmer35
Posted: December 17, 2008 12:06:27 PM

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Kaylya wrote:
bimmer35 wrote:


1) I don't think the IQ of a person in a field necessarily equates to a higher/lower difficulty of the field. What's to say that the particular field requires the person(s) to maximize their potential? A crude example would be Newton as a janitor. It doesn't make him any less intelligent, but it certainly doesn't make janitorial work more difficult.


I believe you're thinking of Will in Good Will Hunting. I'm pretty sure Janitor didn't exist as a job title in the 1600s.


Believe me or not, I've never seen that movie, although I've heard of it many, many times. I'll get around to watching it sooner or later.

Like I said, it was a crude example. I just took a conceived smart person (Newton) and a low IQ job (janitor) and put them together. It is comical to imagine Newton as a janitor in the 21th century though. Actually... not really.

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karla
Posted: December 17, 2008 1:12:44 PM

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GGG wrote:
Question: isn't 50% a pass for engineering students?


It depends on whether the class is curved or not. Generally there is a pass/fail mark for each class, but if you barely pass every class, you are still going to be on academic probation
Caesar
Posted: December 18, 2008 3:40:43 AM

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Sigh..... stay on topic


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