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qwertqwert wrote:I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, GGG. By the way, why not compare the first year courses of an engineering program versus a business program to evaluate their difficulty. I wonder which one that would be more favorable towards. Stringer: Quote:Again, until you come to the table with facts how are you going to attack my method of reasoning? Obviously statistics do not exist that prove my point. I used what statistics are available to come up with a reasonable statement. No you didn't. You can see this by the fact that rather than responding to specific things I say, you continue to simply copy and paste my first posts in this thread. In other words, changing the subject, rather than defending the points you made in earlier discussion. I've asked three times now whether you agree that theology and fine arts are more difficult than medicine and dentistry because the graduation rate is lower. According to your logic that states that because engineering and business have similar graduation rates, that immediately means their difficulty is comparable. Then there's the idiotic notion that because the entrance averages are the same, that means they are of similar difficulty. Regardless of the fact that the prerequisite courses are different. Do you think entrance averages to fine arts programs being similar to engineering mean that they are of the same difficulty too? You're right. Engineers rock. 
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Quote:I've asked three four times now whether you agree that theology and fine arts are more difficult than medicine and dentistry because....
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ What kind of proof is that?
I think it's funny you guys are arguing over something none of you can possibly provide any actual support for. ditto. this is even more useless than thoes " Ivey vs Queen's Commerce" threads.
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Smurfit69 wrote:guys guys guys...
ur all missing a very important point!
what sounds hotter to women??
ENGINEERING guys or BUSINESS MEN???? its a lamoid with out caps ?!?!?!?! anyway wow this thread has really burned in hell and gotten snowed on
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.
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GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:I'm simply saying it's harder to graduate with an engi degree than commerce. Is that a false or offending statement? actually why don't you change that to "It's going to be harder for me to grduate with an engineering degree than commerce because I suck at math and physics." And the apparent differences in class average??? And the obvious difference in courseload/# of credits??? Explain those please.
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Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:I'm simply saying it's harder to graduate with an engi degree than commerce. Is that a false or offending statement? actually why don't you change that to "It's going to be harder for me to grduate with an engineering degree than commerce because I suck at math and physics." And the apparent differences in class average??? because most people suck at math/physics?, and think 85 in HS physics is the same as 85 in university physics?
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Yeah, its been a blast watching you guys/girls pointlessly squabble over this whole Engineering vs. Commerce thing but...I've gotta sleep. I suggest all of you do the same, wake up refreshed, come back on SA, kiss and make up.
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GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:I'm simply saying it's harder to graduate with an engi degree than commerce. Is that a false or offending statement? actually why don't you change that to "It's going to be harder for me to grduate with an engineering degree than commerce because I suck at math and physics." And the apparent differences in class average??? because most people suck at math/physics?, and think 85 in HS physics is the same as 85 in university physics? So you agree that math/physics is harder than management.
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Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:I'm simply saying it's harder to graduate with an engi degree than commerce. Is that a false or offending statement? actually why don't you change that to "It's going to be harder for me to grduate with an engineering degree than commerce because I suck at math and physics." And the apparent differences in class average??? because most people suck at math/physics?, and think 85 in HS physics is the same as 85 in university physics? So you agree that math/physics is harder than management. for me, its the same?
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Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:I'm simply saying it's harder to graduate with an engi degree than commerce. Is that a false or offending statement? actually why don't you change that to "It's going to be harder for me to grduate with an engineering degree than commerce because I suck at math and physics." And the apparent differences in class average??? because most people suck at math/physics?, and think 85 in HS physics is the same as 85 in university physics? So you agree that math/physics is harder than management. Yup, just like writing a hit rap song is harder than acting in a blockbuster film.
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thats because you cant write a hit rap sogn the genre is so lame no one like it except for people who cant buy the cd.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Adu wrote:thats because you cant write a hit rap sogn the genre is so lame no one like it except for people who cant buy the cd. Racism 101.
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GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:
So you agree that math/physics is harder than management.
for me, its the same? Woah, really!? Wow, your internet anecdote really proves your point, congratulations! You know, the truth is I don't even care that much about proving (the almost universally-held knowledge) that on average, engineering programs are more demanding than business programs. I just think it's funny how people love to be critical and "rational" when it comes to subjects that serve to make them feel good about themselves by putting others down, but the second anyone mentions a topic that is indirectly, negatively related to them in any way, it's all about being defensive and emotional. As for the two recent topics: Yes, math/physics is more difficult than management, which would explain this table here. For the second topic, yes, rap is bad "music". No, it isn't racist to point out the obvious. I think heavy metal and punk music sucks too.
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oh please. I bet you know nothing about rap/hip hop music.
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qwertqwert wrote:
I just think it's funny how people love to be critical and "rational" when it comes to subjects that serve to make them feel good about themselves by putting others down, but the second anyone mentions a topic that is indirectly, negatively related to them in any way, it's all about being defensive and emotional.
I couldn't agree more. Stringer, for example, is the king of bashing other people while being calm and logical, but as soon as you threaten his degree he let it get personal and it changed the way he argued his point.
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karla wrote:qwertqwert wrote:
I just think it's funny how people love to be critical and "rational" when it comes to subjects that serve to make them feel good about themselves by putting others down, but the second anyone mentions a topic that is indirectly, negatively related to them in any way, it's all about being defensive and emotional.
I couldn't agree more. Stringer, for example, is the king of bashing other people while being calm and logical, but as soon as you threaten his degree he let it get personal and it changed the way he argued his point. The hell do I care about my degree? You think I have any vested interest in business? I'm an entrepreneur, I have no interest in pursuing a career in business. Therefore, my degree is worthless to me.
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 cnyltiak wrote:oh please. I bet you know nothing about rap/hip hop music. I only know what I hear, and what I have heard so far, I have almost always thought was awful "music".
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You really can't make (accurate) blanket statements about whole genres based on mainstream music. It makes you sound silly.
In any case, some people are good at business, other people are good at engineering. Maybe less people happen to have strength in physics/engineering, but that doesn't mean those engineers would succeed in business.
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Stringer wrote:karla wrote:qwertqwert wrote:
I just think it's funny how people love to be critical and "rational" when it comes to subjects that serve to make them feel good about themselves by putting others down, but the second anyone mentions a topic that is indirectly, negatively related to them in any way, it's all about being defensive and emotional.
I couldn't agree more. Stringer, for example, is the king of bashing other people while being calm and logical, but as soon as you threaten his degree he let it get personal and it changed the way he argued his point. The hell do I care about my degree? You think I have any vested interest in business? I'm an entrepreneur, I have no interest in pursuing a career in business. Therefore, my degree is worthless to me. then why go to university? just get started go for it stinger
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic.
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qwertqwert wrote:GGG wrote:Caesar wrote:
So you agree that math/physics is harder than management.
for me, its the same? Woah, really!? Wow, your internet anecdote really proves your point, congratulations! You know, the truth is I don't even care that much about proving (the almost universally-held knowledge) that on average, engineering programs are more demanding than business programs. I just think it's funny how people love to be critical and "rational" when it comes to subjects that serve to make them feel good about themselves by putting others down, but the second anyone mentions a topic that is indirectly, negatively related to them in any way, it's all about being defensive and emotional. As for the two recent topics: Yes, math/physics is more difficult than management, which would explain this table here. For the second topic, yes, rap is bad "music". No, it isn't racist to point out the obvious. I think heavy metal and punk music sucks too. I don't really want to get in the middle of all of this, but just to be a nitpicker... 1) I don't think the IQ of a person in a field necessarily equates to a higher/lower difficulty of the field. What's to say that the particular field requires the person(s) to maximize their potential? A crude example would be Newton as a janitor. It doesn't make him any less intelligent, but it certainly doesn't make janitorial work more difficult. 2) So you think it's "obvious" that the only people who like rap music are members of the poor population (basically alluding to african-americans)? Not only is this NOT "obvious" (the biggest market for rap music is suburban white kids), it is in fact racist. (or discriminatory at the least) Adu wrote:thats because you cant write a hit rap sogn the genre is so lame no one like it except for people who cant buy the cd.
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