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seamoraine
Posted: December 8, 2008 11:58:03 AM

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qwertqwert wrote:
seamoraine wrote:
How many guys get a high five for being trustworthy, helpful, kind, etc? Usually it's just a slapped-on label called "grow up and stop being such a wimp/nice guy".


99% of men and women both choose partners mostly due to appearance. Not only due to appearance, but mostly. If you were to somehow be able to test how many couples in "love" would still be together if one was scarred horrible for life, it would be very, very few.


I agree. It's just human nature... and sometimes, frankly, quite lame. :/

A lot of the times people simply do not want to go for the average-looker/"ugly" guy (by other people's standards) - and that again, comes under social image. You're so busy inspecting your prospective partner's image, and how your image will look when you finally hook up with them, that you forget that image isn't everything about a person or lasting relationship. We're still at a point where looks & social standing outshine personality, by far. Maybe 20 years down the line, when 'settling down' really starts rubbing in our face and we're all shriveled/wrinkled up we'll be a little less judgemental about the outside. Hopefully razz

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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 2:21:20 PM

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seamoraine wrote:
qwertqwert wrote:
seamoraine wrote:
How many guys get a high five for being trustworthy, helpful, kind, etc? Usually it's just a slapped-on label called "grow up and stop being such a wimp/nice guy".


99% of men and women both choose partners mostly due to appearance. Not only due to appearance, but mostly. If you were to somehow be able to test how many couples in "love" would still be together if one was scarred horrible for life, it would be very, very few.


I agree. It's just human nature... and sometimes, frankly, quite lame. :/

A lot of the times people simply do not want to go for the average-looker/"ugly" guy (by other people's standards) - and that again, comes under social image. You're so busy inspecting your prospective partner's image, and how your image will look when you finally hook up with them, that you forget that image isn't everything about a person or lasting relationship. We're still at a point where looks & social standing outshine personality, by far. Maybe 20 years down the line, when 'settling down' really starts rubbing in our face and we're all shriveled/wrinkled up we'll be a little less judgemental about the outside. Hopefully razz


I think looks are really important for that initial spark and initial attraction. Obviously from there you need to be looking at other things to see if the relationship will be worthwhile. When I first met my boyfriend I was thinking "Damn he looks good" not "He's smart and funny, etc". Of course I found out all of these things within 20 minutes of talking to him but the attraction made me want to start talking to him.
Ooosh
Posted: December 8, 2008 3:43:09 PM
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karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.

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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 3:51:16 PM

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Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Seriously? I would not invade his privacy like that.
Stringer
Posted: December 8, 2008 4:03:32 PM

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karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Seriously? I would not invade his privacy like that.


It's just kind of humorous to hear people talk about how great their significant other is on the internet. EVERYBODY's boyfriend/girlfriend is amazingly good looking, smart, funny, sociable, etc. online. But in reality we know that's not true, especially since the vast majority of users of this forum are "nerds" and likely mediocre to below average looking, lack social skills, etc..

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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 4:08:32 PM

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Stringer wrote:
karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Seriously? I would not invade his privacy like that.


It's just kind of humorous to hear people talk about how great their significant other is on the internet. EVERYBODY's boyfriend/girlfriend is amazingly good looking, smart, funny, sociable, etc. online. But in reality we know that's not true, especially since the vast majority of users of this forum are "nerds" and likely mediocre to below average looking, lack social skills, etc..


We all make judgements on this forum. Basically none of us have met each other, so who cares what anyone here thinks. I'm sure we all act a little differently here than we do in real life, being online and anonymous tends to do that to people.

Basically, I think my boyfriend is attractive. Obviously some other people do too because he gets hit on sometimes. I don't find some people attractive, while others do. The point I was trying to get across was not how amazing my boyfriend is, but that we initially were attracted to each other because of looks, and I chose to use a personal example.
karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 4:13:36 PM

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Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Also when I posted that I wasn't specifically referring to my boyfriend. I have a LOT of guy friends, and I know a lot of guys through rugby, and a lot of them fit that criteria. You just have to look a bit harder
Ooosh
Posted: December 8, 2008 5:06:25 PM
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karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Also when I posted that I wasn't specifically referring to my boyfriend. I have a LOT of guy friends, and I know a lot of guys through rugby, and a lot of them fit that criteria. You just have to look a bit harder


I realize this, I just remember you said he is tattooed. happy feet

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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 5:09:25 PM

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Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Also when I posted that I wasn't specifically referring to my boyfriend. I have a LOT of guy friends, and I know a lot of guys through rugby, and a lot of them fit that criteria. You just have to look a bit harder


I realize this, I just remember you said he is tattooed. happy feet


Haha, yeah. I actually don't think any pictures of his tattoo exist. It's on his back so he's really careful about sun exposure because he doesn't want it to look horrible when he's older (when we were in Cuba he wore a long sleeved shirt almost the entire time)
Ooosh
Posted: December 8, 2008 5:57:43 PM
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karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Ooosh wrote:
karla wrote:
Orrrr you can find a hot, nice, smart guy (they do exist)


Post a picture of your boyfriend.


Also when I posted that I wasn't specifically referring to my boyfriend. I have a LOT of guy friends, and I know a lot of guys through rugby, and a lot of them fit that criteria. You just have to look a bit harder


I realize this, I just remember you said he is tattooed. happy feet


Haha, yeah. I actually don't think any pictures of his tattoo exist. It's on his back so he's really careful about sun exposure because he doesn't want it to look horrible when he's older (when we were in Cuba he wore a long sleeved shirt almost the entire time)


That has got to get annoying, haha. Especially when it is super hot.

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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 6:00:36 PM

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Ooosh wrote:

That has got to get annoying, haha. Especially when it is super hot.


He kept telling me it was actually cooler, because they were long sleeved light cotton or something. I got heat rash and a sun burn and he didn't.
qwertqwert
Posted: December 8, 2008 6:22:24 PM

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karla wrote:
seamoraine wrote:
qwertqwert wrote:
seamoraine wrote:
How many guys get a high five for being trustworthy, helpful, kind, etc? Usually it's just a slapped-on label called "grow up and stop being such a wimp/nice guy".


99% of men and women both choose partners mostly due to appearance. Not only due to appearance, but mostly. If you were to somehow be able to test how many couples in "love" would still be together if one was scarred horrible for life, it would be very, very few.


I agree. It's just human nature... and sometimes, frankly, quite lame. :/

A lot of the times people simply do not want to go for the average-looker/"ugly" guy (by other people's standards) - and that again, comes under social image. You're so busy inspecting your prospective partner's image, and how your image will look when you finally hook up with them, that you forget that image isn't everything about a person or lasting relationship. We're still at a point where looks & social standing outshine personality, by far. Maybe 20 years down the line, when 'settling down' really starts rubbing in our face and we're all shriveled/wrinkled up we'll be a little less judgemental about the outside. Hopefully razz


I think looks are really important for that initial spark and initial attraction. Obviously from there you need to be looking at other things to see if the relationship will be worthwhile. When I first met my boyfriend I was thinking "Damn he looks good" not "He's smart and funny, etc". Of course I found out all of these things within 20 minutes of talking to him but the attraction made me want to start talking to him.


And that is how most people behave as well. It is human nature.

seamoraine, I like to wax lyrical about appreciating people's characters as well but to put it simply, humans are mostly shallow people, for the vast majority of the people, a person's looks is the most significant part of a relationship. Not that it is the only important thing, but basically most relationships and couples in "love" would disintegrate if the looks weren't there.



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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 6:28:35 PM

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qwertqwert wrote:
Not that it is the only important thing, but basically most relationships and couples in "love" would disintegrate if the looks weren't there.


Partly true. I think if somebody put on a little bit of weight, no big deal. But I think it is reasonable to expect your significant other to care enough about their health and personal appearance to maintain a healthy weight. I don't think people expect ripped abs, but if their significant other became morbidly obese or all of a sudden neglected all personal hygiene, I think it would be reasonable to end the relationship.
qwertqwert
Posted: December 8, 2008 6:51:49 PM

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When I talk of appearance, I do not mean things like hygiene or weight or anything that can be changed easily.



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karla
Posted: December 8, 2008 6:54:20 PM

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qwertqwert wrote:
When I talk of appearance, I do not mean things like hygiene or weight or anything that can be changed easily.


I see, when I read the part about relationships disintegrating if the looks aren't there, I was thinking more along the lines of people letting themselves go.
Scwol
Posted: December 9, 2008 11:02:03 PM

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A relationship can't exist without some form of physical attraction.

On another point...I'm planning on going into engineering and I'm not a virgin...so -1 on that prediction by me...peace.
karla
Posted: December 9, 2008 11:07:10 PM

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Scwol wrote:

On another point...I'm planning on going into engineering and I'm not a virgin...so -1 on that prediction by me...peace.


Hahahahha thanks for the information
seamoraine
Posted: December 10, 2008 1:16:15 PM

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Nerds, keep it in your pants. You're the only people worth doing it with nowadays. LOL j/k :-)

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Scwol
Posted: December 10, 2008 10:12:42 PM

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karla wrote:
Scwol wrote:

On another point...I'm planning on going into engineering and I'm not a virgin...so -1 on that prediction by me...peace.


Hahahahha thanks for the information


lol sorry karla...but I thought you would want to know a little bit more about me after the help in my engineering thread !cheers
karla
Posted: December 10, 2008 10:36:51 PM

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Scwol wrote:
karla wrote:
Scwol wrote:

On another point...I'm planning on going into engineering and I'm not a virgin...so -1 on that prediction by me...peace.


Hahahahha thanks for the information


lol sorry karla...but I thought you would want to know a little bit more about me after the help in my engineering thread !cheers


Haha that's ok! It made me laugh a little bit. I'm not sure the admins would appreciate us disclosing our sexual histories in any great detail on this forum


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