Oh, so are you are just disagreeing with the premise....the way you wrote your post seemed otherwise, or maybe it was just my error.

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Meatball Engineering '12
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...now it was sarcasm?

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Meatball Engineering '12
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I am confused.

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Meatball Engineering '12
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This thread is highly entertaining. Pardon my ignorance, but I had no idea the Arts program had such bad reputation. I am almost offended, since I have thought of being an "artsy" myself - and be assured I am no less intelligent than students in any Engineering program. However, I am sure you are all enjoying yourselves, and do not mean much of what you say. But please, while enthusiastically defending your intelligence levels, do try to get basic grammar right.

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Queen's Commerce 2014

I don't think that's a fair statement at all.

What i've found is that many people in engineering tend to be, for lack of a better term, rather snobbish. I know plenty of people in arts, sciences, engineering, social sciences, etc. (or who are intending on going into them) and you'll find a mix of people throughout who are more intelligent than others. Engineers don't have the intelligence cache contrary to what many of them believe.

As for the whole debate going on with the engineering guys calling some cs or eng girls 'fatties' or sub-par well, let's just say, the girls in engineering are likely not boasting about the outstanding attractiveness of engineering guys either



One thing to comment though, almost every girl I know who is going into engineering IS going into chem eng, which I find quite interesting. Anyone in engineering want to fill me in on why?

Being in engineering I have also gotten the impression that a lot of the engineering students are pretty snobbish, and think because their entrance cut-off was a whole 2% higher, that they are somehow superior

I'll grant you that the Physics students would tend to to better on the IQ test, but only because IQ tests are focused on the types of thinking required to excel in stuff like math, physics, engineering, etc., and don't measure a whole lot of other useful things. They also really aren't much of a predictor of future success (at least among people intelligent enough to get into university in the first place).

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FAQ's:
1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes.
2. Anything else: Google it before asking.

Someone in the last 300 years figured out how to standardise the education system, and also introduced a "score system" because that made it easier and a lot more convenient to rate peoples' intelligence relative to each other. This test was devised by humans and is obviously flawed since it looks at only a few qualities of every individual.
MOST of the presumptions I've read so far in this thread refer to this "standardised" system that is now known as high school scores, SAT, GRE, University degree, GPA, IQ test etc etc.

How many engineers can propel a large business forward into a world leader that makes so much effing money that it can afford to invest in more humane causes?
How many business majors have the perseverance and diligence to sit and figure out Schrodinger's equation, or even a Fourier Transform?

I'm trying not to say "Everyone is special in their own way." because that is bullcrap. People's advancements are a result of their abilities AND their effing back breaking hard work.
What I'm trying to say is that yes a liberal arts major cannot do what science people do because they lack the ability to sit and look at numbers and play around with them. Similarly, science people lack the ability to do what liberal arts people do as well.

It is true that civilisation as we know it has a strong base in science. But, life as we know it needs more than just science.

For the record, let me refer to my "standardised system" qualifications. I'm a senior (male) in Physics and Electrical Engineering. I'm also doing research in EM wave propagation.

PS - I do lament the dearth of girls in EE as well as in Physics. But the few I have seen are all intellectually brilliant. For what it's worth not all of them are pretty, but none of them are hideous either.