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tesla
Posted: November 11, 2008 8:08:14 PM
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you can take it but I guarantee you CAN'T pass it NO WAY, you need many prereq eng courses to pass it,

it is extremely difficult to get B in physics even for physics majors,
BUBBA you are realy LUDABUBBA
qwertqwert
Posted: November 11, 2008 8:38:50 PM

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CRAZYBUBBA wrote:
Stop making generalizations.


There are true statements and false statements.

The statement "Every single Physics major is smarter than every single Arts student" is false.

The statement "Physics students are, on average, smarter than Arts students" is true.

Ever taken logic? Whenever I state the obvious here people throw counterexamples as if it somehow debunks the statement. A counterexample would only make the first one false, the second remains true..



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Miss
Posted: November 11, 2008 8:49:56 PM

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not to point the finger or anything but i find a lot of gr. 9/10 high school sciences teachers just aren't great, so people who just didn't do well in those classes got totally turned off of all sciences, while the arts teachers usually were more enthusiastic. I know so many people who bombed the physics portion of early high school science and hated it, just because they weren't taught properly. I'm sure that with a sound framework most people can do moderately well in any specialization, i mean it's just identifying the problem, picking out the facts and putting them back together for the basics.
hell, it was a tossup between poli sci/journalism and engineering for me till gr. 12.

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mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: November 11, 2008 11:51:18 PM
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Miss wrote:
not to point the finger or anything but i find a lot of gr. 9/10 high school sciences teachers just aren't great, so people who just didn't do well in those classes got totally turned off of all sciences, while the arts teachers usually were more enthusiastic. I know so many people who bombed the physics portion of early high school science and hated it, just because they weren't taught properly.


I can think of a reason why that might be: much more so than science students, social science and arts students acknowledge that they will probably end up teaching. If you don't like the idea of teaching, then you may want to reconsider a degree in some of the social sciences and the arts. A lot of the science teachers, on the other hand, probably wanted to become doctors or physicists in undergrad, but they didn't have the marks to get into professional school or even graduate school, so they ended up being teachers. They may not be enthusiastic about teaching, but it sure is better than being a lab tech.

Nevertheless, other than my grade 11 biology teacher (who was a physics major and had never taken a biology course in his life), all of my science teachers seemed enthusiastic and seemed like they enjoyed their career.

BMSc Honours Specialization in Medical Science, Minor in Psychology UWO '09
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seamoraine
Posted: November 12, 2008 12:23:42 AM

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lol dumb or not, I have little respect for girls (Arts -or- Engineering) who chose their program because "ehh.. whatever..." LOL.
Even if someone wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but was passionate about what they were learning -- I think they're much, much worthy of praise than "I want that 4.0 GPA just so I can inflate my ego even though I don't give a holy crap about what I'm doing" people.
phew, felt good to have that off my chest.

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qwertqwert
Posted: November 12, 2008 12:54:02 AM

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No argument there.

Actually the people I respect the most are music majors.

They are willing to undergo years of mockery in order to pursue their passion in life.

I was almost one of them, but I couldn't pull through (well actually I just liked music and engineering equally and decided that I could do music as a hobby).

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karla
Posted: November 12, 2008 9:14:42 PM

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tesla wrote:
you can take it but I guarantee you CAN'T pass it NO WAY, you need many prereq eng courses to pass it,

it is extremely difficult to get B in physics even for physics majors,
BUBBA you are realy LUDABUBBA


You don't need any prereq eng courses to pass FIRST YEAR physics, which is what you said. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about
CRAZYBUBBA
Posted: November 13, 2008 6:21:39 AM

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tesla wrote:
you can take it but I guarantee you CAN'T pass it NO WAY, you need many prereq eng courses to pass it,

it is extremely difficult to get B in physics even for physics majors,
BUBBA you are realy LUDABUBBA


What does that even mean? I did AP grade 12 physics, I had the academic foundation to take 1st year physics. What is this Ludabubba business?

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scarboro
Posted: November 13, 2008 1:58:02 PM

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CRAZYBUBBA wrote:
tesla wrote:
you can take it but I guarantee you CAN'T pass it NO WAY, you need many prereq eng courses to pass it,

it is extremely difficult to get B in physics even for physics majors,
BUBBA you are realy LUDABUBBA


What does that even mean? I did AP grade 12 physics, I had the academic foundation to take 1st year physics. What is this Ludabubba business?

BUBBA, you're a rare case because I'm sure tesla is talking about the Art students whom only took art/humanities courses in highschool. Math is probably the 'hardest' thing to overcome with a solid background.

UTSG Honours B.Sc. Specialist in Biology, Major in Ecology & Evolutionary Biology '12
qwertqwert
Posted: November 13, 2008 2:05:36 PM

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What is this rare case you speak of. My brother's cousin's father's brother's daughter's friend's sister's friend's mother's brother's daughter is an Arts student who's good at physics. Therefore this proves that all Arts students are on average, as smart as others.

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scarboro
Posted: November 13, 2008 2:08:53 PM

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qwertqwert wrote:
What is this rare case you speak of. My brother's cousin's father's brother's daughter's friend's sister's friend's mother's brother's daughter is an Arts student who's good at physics. Therefore this proves that all Arts students are on average, as smart as others.

Your induction hypothesis is true for the n=1 case and you assume it is true for the nth case.
Now prove it is true for n+1th case and thereby your induction hypothesis the entire statement is true.

qwertqwert wrote:
You know, every post doesn't need to be an opportunity for you to say "HAY GUYZ IM SMART"

(Unless you honestly didn't detect the sarcasm there)


It was a joke lol ... Chill...

UTSG Honours B.Sc. Specialist in Biology, Major in Ecology & Evolutionary Biology '12
qwertqwert
Posted: November 13, 2008 2:16:43 PM

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You know, every post doesn't need to be an opportunity for you to say "HAY GUYZ IM SMART"

(Unless you honestly didn't detect the sarcasm there)



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Miss
Posted: November 13, 2008 4:47:40 PM

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um, there's not much that's hard about first year physics from what i've done so far, and there's a bunch of kids in life sci taking it for the first time in their life and they're doing fine.
i'm sure that with the right education and interest, anyone is capable of first year physics.

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karla
Posted: November 13, 2008 5:19:36 PM

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Miss wrote:
um, there's not much that's hard about first year physics from what i've done so far, and there's a bunch of kids in life sci taking it for the first time in their life and they're doing fine.
i'm sure that with the right education and interest, anyone is capable of first year physics.


Yup, first year physics was basically a review from high school, there was no complex math, and you could learn it easily from the textbook
dcass
Posted: November 14, 2008 1:15:35 PM
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You know...as a girl who is actually in engineering, I think this whole forum is entertaining. I don't believe that anyone who has posted in here is actually a female engineering student (Correct me if I'm wrong). I am not here to say that I disagree about all girls in engineering being ugly...or hairy. lol. I'm also not here to argue about which program shows her to have more intelligence. I would say all these generalizations can be proven to be incorrect on one basic fact. How can you correctly label a whole group of people when you have no knowledge of 99.9% of them? Maybe your school got the short end of the stick and ended up with a wide variety of girls with less-than-pleasant looks. Maybe it's something in your water. smile I'm not trying to say that on average girls in engineering are hot. I'm just trying to say that this whole discussion is completely biased and has no real relavance. I believe 'someone' stated that girls in civil engineering usually have a lack of life skills...or a social life as they called it. This is just me, stating my personal stance on this, not a comment on the group of us. I was a straight A student all through school. In fact, I also scored the highest on my grade 12 English provincial out of 4 high schools. I took philosophy, psychology, and law. I also received the highest score out of any of the other classes on my law term paper. I was a competitive dancer for 10 years, and loved being on the stage and performing. I had a huge group of friends...quite a wide variety I might add. I was an active volunteer for community youth councils, planned parenthood clinics in various cities, as well as being a peer counsellor for other students (voted into the position) starting in grade 5 and lasting until I graduated. I had boyfriends, I baby sat neighbours' kids....I also moved out on my own when I was 17. Worked to support myself. I've travelled across Canada and the US (up and down every province and practically every state) and I've travelled Europe somewhat in depth. I have done all these things on my own, without 'mommy' and 'daddy' helping me out. Not that they wouldn't have, but because I didn't want them to. All I have to say is, it's time to grow up. I've found, that in this forum, the majority of girls who have been posting sound like they are still in high school. All they are here to say is that they "are smarter" and definitely "better looking". Haha...alright I'm ready to hear the wrath that follows....
UofT2011
Posted: November 14, 2008 1:28:55 PM
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dcass wrote:
Haha...alright I'm ready to hear the wrath that follows....


i didnt have time to read your enitre post, but lol, the hairy girls part cracked me up. In about 70% of the cases (atleast in UofT engineering) that is true. But the other 30% are beautiful! beautiful, smart and a good personality. what more could you ask for?

edit: i would like to change the 30% to 20%, it just makes more sense razz

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qwertqwert
Posted: November 14, 2008 1:31:28 PM

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I don't believe that anyone who has posted in here is actually a female engineering student


Karla is a female engineering student.


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Kaylya
Posted: November 14, 2008 1:31:31 PM

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dcass wrote:
You know...as a girl who is actually in engineering, I think this whole forum is entertaining. I don't believe that anyone who has posted in here is actually a female engineering student (Correct me if I'm wrong).


Karla is a girl in Engineering, and I'm a girl in Computer Science (now a grad student).

FAQ's:
1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes.
2. Anything else: Google it before asking.
Taiyab
Posted: November 14, 2008 2:26:55 PM
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I'm also a girl in Engineering.









































kidding.

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Self-help: I am taking Engineering, but Engineering isn't taking me.
changturkey
Posted: November 14, 2008 4:10:16 PM

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Taiyab wrote:
I'm also a girl in Engineering.









































kidding.


Lol.


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