Yeah, they can poison our hamburgers.

JUST KIDDING CALM DOWN.

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Meatball Engineering '12
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In my experience, people who are in less demanding programs generally try to boost their self-confidence by insulting other schools.

P.S. the difference between York, Queens, and most other schools in terms of admission averages for Arts is a few percent. Nothing to get one's head too inflated over.

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Meatball Engineering '12
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[quote=qwertqwert]In my experience, people who are in less demanding programs generally try to boost their self-confidence by insulting other schools.


I agree!

in my opinion school is not as importans as the program is.
if some girl is studying Electrical Engineering she is considered a very briliant, smart girl and she is smart no question about it.

if someone is studying history and or sociology is well known to everyone how easy it is.

I think the same way (that girls in engineering must be brilliant)... it is just what people think. I acknowledge that it may not be true and they are probably, on average, no smarter than their male counterparts, but I don't think rationally all the time; as a result, I do also consider girls in engineering to be brilliant. Take it as a compliment.

I think it is just a natural reaction to people who don't follow the stereotype. I feel the same way about this black guy in my program. He is most definitely smart, but I think of him as being really genius probably just because he is smart AND black. I know, I know... sounds racist (and it is), but if you don't hold the stereotype that blacks are dumber than whites, then you must be some sort of robot. I think my thinking is "he is black and, therefore, stereotyped to be not smart, he should respond to that stereotyping by subconsciously making himself dumber, but he is still smart even though he is subconsciously making himself dumber; therefore, he must be really smart." Same goes for girls in engineering. "She is a she; therefore, she is stereotyped to be poor in mathematics and engineering; she should respond to that stereotyping by making herself seem dumber at engineering, but she is still smart at engineering, so she must be really smart at engineering." I don't know why I needed to analogize that, but I wrote the bit on the black guy in my program now, so it will stay.

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BMSc Honours Specialization in Medical Science, Minor in Psychology UWO '09
Bachelor of Pharmacy University of Alberta '13

Of course not, but I think the point I was trying to make, and you've all seen people like this, is that someone can be incredibly school smart and get straight As, but when it comes down to it they're just really unexceptional as a person.

My boyfriend is an English major. He got into engineering. Could he jump into one of my courses right now? Probably not. But he would definitely be able to do engineering.

I would assume it wouldn't be horribly different for girls.

This thread is an interesting battle of the sexes thread.

I'd say there is no clear winner, seriously.

So what if a girl wants to study arts, what makes her any smarter or dumber than a girl in Engineering? Secondly, we're comparing Arts and Engineering at the same time!

I will say, that I do in fact have stereotypes about girls in various programs....

-Engineering, seriously...they're man-hating feminists. Come on, they're basically out their to prove that they're just as smart as men yada yada economic potential yada yada yada climb the corporate ladder yada yada yada....who cares.
-Arts, lol you gotta love them.


Anyways, anyone see that calendar flying around UofT!! OMG.....STUDENT BODY STRAIGHT A'S!!!

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University of Lost Hope, Broken Dreams and Tattered Souls '08
Self-help: I am taking Engineering, but Engineering isn't taking me.

I think the girls who stick with programs that are highly male dominated - Engineering, CS, etc. tend to be a little smarter on average than the guys in those programs. Now, "a little smarter on average" does not correspond to "the girls are all super geniuses" at all - I think that difference would be mainly because I think the girls that are in the program like that all tend to have some aptitude for the subject, while the guys don't necessarily - basically, I think there's fewer "dumb" girls than guys in these programs. It feels like there are a few more girls in the CS grad program here (at Ottawa/Carleton) than there were in undergrad, but I don't have any stats to back that up.

In terms of the difficulty of Arts, I'm of the belief that it is, indeed, the easiest degree to get. You've got a whole lot of flexibility to avoid taking many courses that are particularly hard, you can BS an essay and pull off a pass while you can't do that with sciences, etc. However, I also think that it is very difficult to pull off high marks in Arts, and I have a lot of respect for those who do.

While it depends on the university, sometimes some engineering courses are open to people from other programs. But courses being closed to out of program students has little to do with how "smart" the students are and more with how the programs are structured. Is a music student smarter than a regular Arts student because most music courses are for people in the music program only?

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FAQ's:
1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes.
2. Anything else: Google it before asking.

friend of mine studies electrical engineering and took 4th year philosophy course for her elective with no prerequisite and got B+ in it.
i don't see English major passing 1st year Physics , can't even register in it?

how many English majors took Linear Algebra, Physics, Chemistry, Calculus in grade 12, probably NONE! while ALL engineering majors
took english,

Karla is right. I graduated HS with all sciences and even AP physics and Calculus. I took physics and in university as well and got a B. At Queen's arts majors can take any science courses that they want. Stop making generalizations.

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Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakens.- Carl Jung