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Stringer wrote:Gibran wrote:Stringer wrote:First off, that is illegal unless your professor gives you permission.
Second, are you really going to sit there for an hour and a half and relisten to a lecture? Not even the biggest of keeners would do that. Your time would be better spent studying. Thirdly, Why is it illegal? Your already taking notes like someone else mentioned? Where do you get your information? It is illegal because you can't record somebody without their knowledge. It is also illegal because you're recording somebody's academic property without permission. That is exactly why I recommended that the person ask their prof before they do it- then there would be no problem.
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MDoucett wrote:
Don't always blindly listen to Stringer, he tends to think himself infallible.
Yes, Over the course of my contribution to this forum, i have come to find that Stringer does think himself infallible. Stringer with all respect to you, before you contribute to this forum, take the time to consider what you are saying, and also consider the responses you will receive to the comments you make. This forum is intended to help other students with factual information, and not merely exacerbate the situation by providing them with information that is misleading. For the sake of this forum get your facts straight Stringer!
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Gibran wrote:MDoucett wrote:
Don't always blindly listen to Stringer, he tends to think himself infallible.
Yes, Over the course of my contribution to this forum, i have come to find that Stringer does think himself infallible. Stringer with all respect to you, before you contribute to this forum, take the time to consider what you are saying, and also consider the responses you will receive to the comments you make. This forum is intended to help other students with factual information, and not merely exacerbate the situation by providing them with information that is misleading. For the sake of this forum get your facts straight Stringer! Please. Go ahead and find some instances where I provided information that was not factual.
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Stringer wrote:Gibran wrote:When i went to purchase my books ,the lady at the counter mentioned a recorder that you place on your desk to record lectures. Has anyone used these before, are they worth while and how much do they cost?
Thanks! First off, that is illegal unless your professor gives you permission. You are in an academic setting, involved with learning the material that you have essentially paid thousands of dollars for, now I don’t see how you could be indicted for recording material for the sake of your education. If the professor did not want to be recorded he would initially make that clear, and there would be no further problem. Can you direct me to what constitution states that recording a professor for educational purposes is illegal?
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Gibran wrote:
You are in an academic setting, involved with learning the material that you have essentially paid thousands of dollars for, now I don’t see how you could be indicted for recording material for the sake of your education. If the professor did not want to be recorded he would initially make that clear, and there would be no further problem. Can you direct me to what constitution states that recording a professor for educational purposes is illegal?
Constitution? What are you talking about? I'm not going to dig through a bunch of old court cases, laws, etc. You can do that yourself. Look up some info on the subject online. Look at university websites which have forms for disabled people to get permission to record lectures. Why would those forms exist if they weren't necessary?
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If you have the “factual” information, you should have some slight insight as to where you have heard or read it. It is obvious that disabled people have permission, but this situation has nothing to do with disabled people.
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Gibran wrote:If you have the “factual” information, you should have some slight insight as to where you have heard or read it. It is obvious that disabled people have permission, but this situation has nothing to do with disabled people. It's no different than recording a movie at a theater. It's intellectual property. A lecture is the property of the professor, or possibly the university depending on who you ask. Take a look at this: http://cronus.uwindsor.ca/units/edc/disability/disability.nsf/54ef3e94e5fe816e85256d6e0063d208/efb7d48e6748e3d78525743c004d2672/$FILE/AudioRecordingPolicy.pdfWhy would people with a disability have to fill this form out if they were allowed to record lectures without consent? Again, feel free to point out any situation in which I have provided information that was not correct. But if you can't, don't call me out on saying things that aren't true.
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Gibran wrote:If you have the “factual” information, you should have some slight insight as to where you have heard or read it. It is obvious that disabled people have permission, but this situation has nothing to do with disabled people. Getting back to the point, I was thinking about recording some of my lectures as well. To avoid any possible laws that no one seems to have proof of, just ask the teacher. It's no big deal to just ask. You won't need the recorder in your first couple of classes anyway.
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MDoucett wrote:Gibran wrote:If you have the “factual” information, you should have some slight insight as to where you have heard or read it. It is obvious that disabled people have permission, but this situation has nothing to do with disabled people. Getting back to the point, I was thinking about recording some of my lectures as well. To avoid any possible laws that no one seems to have proof of, just ask the teacher. It's no big deal to just ask. You won't need the recorder in your first couple of classes anyway. Forget recording lectures, it's just a waste of your time. During lectures, summarize the key points. after the lecture or sometime later during the day, create your notes. Instead of listening to that 2 hour lecture again on your tape recorder, why not read ahead in tomorrow's lesson?
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Forget recording lectures, it's just a waste of your time. During lectures, summarize the key points. after the lecture or sometime later during the day, create your notes. Instead of listening to that 2 hour lecture again on your tape recorder, why not read ahead in tomorrow's lesson?
It doesn't have to be a waste of time. If you get permission, it can be very helpful. There is a program called Dragon NaturallySpeaking where you can plug your digital recorder right into the computer and Dragon converts the prof's words into text that you can use for your study notes. The program is relatively inexpensive too, around $119 or so. You could probably find it bootlegged online too, but we won't get into the (il)legality of that whole issue... Edit: the version that allows you to use the microphone is actually $199. But I've used both programs on my friend's computer and they're really cool. You can control the whole computer (open programs, make new files, etc) with just your voice! http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10078040&catid=10696
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It might be slightly helpful, but are you really going to re-listen to 40 hours of lectures? It's much better to just take good notes in class.
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I think that software would be incredible,so cool. I mean to each is their own but I think if I have to wake up at 8:30 or so and take notes I know i'll end up missing some stuff i'd rather record it and take notes later or get that software to write it or whatever.I'll just be on the safe side and ask as a lot of people have suggested, save myself the headache.Lol I should have thought of that idea last year for uni it would have really saved me during my exams lol whoops 
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I actually used to have a program that did the same thing...except I'm probably going to get a new macbook pro, so I'll need new software that's compatible with their OS X
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For recording, if you ask your professor ahead of time, it should be fine. They can tell if you if it's okay or not.
For high school, one of my friends had a real problem with French dictations asked, and would record the teacher speaking so that she could go home and practice with her parents, seeing as she couldn't, for the life of her, remember how to pronounce/spell anything.
Recording was illegal for my CEGEP, because we were a private school, though I don't know the policy for universities.
And recording for some classes might be a waste of time, but for others where 'most anything a professor says can be important, they can be very useful.
As my differential equations teacher usef to quote (though I forget whom he was quoting): "For this next test, you must know and understand everything I have written on the board, everything I have mentioned, whether I have written it or not, and everything I have thought of mentioning but forgot to do so."
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Username13 wrote:
As my differential equations teacher usef to quote (though I forget whom he was quoting): "For this next test, you must know and understand everything I have written on the board, everything I have mentioned, whether I have written it or not, and everything I have thought of mentioning but forgot to do so."
wow...That was nice of him...
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For those of us taking arts courses where we actually read stuff, I find those little post-it tabs to be very useful for marking off your readings in the textbook. Often times (especially in philosophy) you will have open book midterms so it really helps cut down on unnessary time wastage. Also highlighters are a good buy. Some people find it very useful to highlight in their textbooks, but I find it better to use it with your notes to emphasize the main info and stuff you absolutely cannot forget.
And guys, don't forget some kind of backpack... I never even thought of getting one until I was walking around campus on the first day and everyone had one. lol
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Malinka wrote:For those of us taking arts courses where we actually read stuff, I find those little post-it tabs to be very useful for marking off your readings in the textbook. Often times (especially in philosophy) you will have open book midterms so it really helps cut down on unnessary time wastage. Also highlighters are a good buy. Some people find it very useful to highlight in their textbooks, but I find it better to use it with your notes to emphasize the main info and stuff you absolutely cannot forget.
And guys, don't forget some kind of backpack... I never even thought of getting one until I was walking around campus on the first day and everyone had one. lol I use different coloured pens (ie/ green for terms, red for keywords, black for regular) I don't always keep them with me in class, but if I go through later at home I'll underline in whatever colour I'm using for certain things. I'm actually doing research on backpacks. I usually need a new one every 6 months because I'm really hard on them. So I'm trying to find a really good one now. They usually rip on the strap, or by the zipper, it drives me nuts 
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MDoucett wrote:Malinka wrote:For those of us taking arts courses where we actually read stuff, I find those little post-it tabs to be very useful for marking off your readings in the textbook. Often times (especially in philosophy) you will have open book midterms so it really helps cut down on unnessary time wastage. Also highlighters are a good buy. Some people find it very useful to highlight in their textbooks, but I find it better to use it with your notes to emphasize the main info and stuff you absolutely cannot forget.
And guys, don't forget some kind of backpack... I never even thought of getting one until I was walking around campus on the first day and everyone had one. lol I use different coloured pens (ie/ green for terms, red for keywords, black for regular) I don't always keep them with me in class, but if I go through later at home I'll underline in whatever colour I'm using for certain things. I'm actually doing research on backpacks. I usually need a new one every 6 months because I'm really hard on them. So I'm trying to find a really good one now. They usually rip on the strap, or by the zipper, it drives me nuts Iam also taking a Philosophy course in September, It is my first year so Iam not sure if it would be better to take notes on loose paper on a clip board or in a binded note book with sheets inside. Any suggestions? Thanks
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MDoucett wrote:I'm actually doing research on backpacks. I usually need a new one every 6 months because I'm really hard on them. So I'm trying to find a really good one now. They usually rip on the strap, or by the zipper, it drives me nuts MEC backpacks are very durable. If you're not a member it costs all of $5 for a lifetime membership.
FAQ's: 1. Will I get in? See: electronicinfo.ca for Ontario schools. If you have a couple percent above the marks there and it's not looking at supplementary, the answer is almost certainly yes. 2. Anything else: Google it before asking.
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itchy wrote:Username13 wrote:
As my differential equations teacher usef to quote (though I forget whom he was quoting): "For this next test, you must know and understand everything I have written on the board, everything I have mentioned, whether I have written it or not, and everything I have thought of mentioning but forgot to do so."
wow...That was nice of him... It was a joke. Though it IS always good to be prepared.
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