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alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:
There is a big difference between freedom and independence.
Elaborate... Independence is basically being alone in the world. You don't have enough money to pay rent? You're out on the street. Freedom could be living alone, paying your own bills, but have your parents siphon you money. If you overspend or run out of money, they'll be there to catch you.
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alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:
There is a big difference between freedom and independence.
Elaborate... I am guessing he means that with independence you still have responsibilities to yourself and probably others, whereas "freedom" would total lack of any responsibility and you can just do whatever you want.
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changturkey wrote:alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:
There is a big difference between freedom and independence.
Elaborate... I am guessing he means that with independence you still have responsibilities to yourself and probably others, whereas "freedom" would total lack of any responsibility and you can just do whatever you want. No I think he meant the opposite. As in living with your parents you might have freedom but not independance. Freedom does not equal recklessness.
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Stringer wrote:alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:
There is a big difference between freedom and independence.
Elaborate... Independence is basically being alone in the world. You don't have enough money to pay rent? You're out on the street. Freedom could be living alone, paying your own bills, but have your parents siphon you money. If you overspend or run out of money, they'll be there to catch you. I don't think too many people have true independance then. Most people's parents would be willing to bail them out if they got into a bad situation, provided it didn't happen repeatedly.
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karla wrote:Stringer wrote:alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:
There is a big difference between freedom and independence.
Elaborate... Independence is basically being alone in the world. You don't have enough money to pay rent? You're out on the street. Freedom could be living alone, paying your own bills, but have your parents siphon you money. If you overspend or run out of money, they'll be there to catch you. I don't think too many people have true independance then. Most people's parents would be willing to bail them out if they got into a bad situation, provided it didn't happen repeatedly. My main point is that if you live at home or your parents are footing the bill for your school...you're not independent. They may give you a lot of freedom, but you aren't independent.
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only on this forum will a thread like this generate discussions like this.
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there's no such thing as "true independence". we only have as much independence/freedom as the big guys would like us to believe we have.
but i just said that for the sake of arguing. you can disregard my comment, haha.
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Man shall not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest...
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ACTH wrote:Man shall not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest... Did you just make that up or is that a quote? I was watching The Lab with Leo Laporte I usually don't like that guy but they were doing a special on do you have privacy anymore? and they were talking about how companies on websites (ads) leave cookies on your computer and follow that cookie around to track where you have been. Pretty scary stuff Pro for living at home. Get to play my 360 =P Fable 2 here I come
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july0eight wrote:there's no such thing as "true independence". we only have as much independence/freedom as the big guys would like us to believe we have.
but i just said that for the sake of arguing. you can disregard my comment, haha. lol I should have rephrased that to 'full independence' but I guess that's debatable too. =P
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well my borther will be applying to the same schools as i am for his med and so if we end up going to the same uni my parents are thinking about buying a four bedroom house so me and my bro can live there rent out the other and keep the last one for when my parents come to visit
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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my parents want to do the same thing except my brother already lives in the city. He's just waiting for me to get accepted somewhere in the city so we could move in together.
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Sorry for reviving an old thread,
but I guess it'll be relevant in the future--
Deciding whether or not to you want to live with your parents really should be a personal decision I think.
It's hard for parents to go through the empty nest syndrome (young people tend to recover more quickly) but during your university years, you do have every right to be selfish - for the sake of academics, or your social life, or what ever "identity process" you think suffices. Sometimes, if the right amount of wisdom clicks, you'll be able to see that living on your own isn't all that it's cut out to be - and you'll only know, of course, if you're able to live through it. Although I personally appreciate what my parents are doing for me, it isn't the most comfortable living situation partially because netheir my brother or I wanted to live with parents during university. Although we're somewhat responsible now, my mom is convinced there is no way we can survive on our own so chose to live with us. My mom particularly can be overpowering, pushy about housework/chores, curfews and knowing where we are and why. If you have laid-back parents, the adult transition within your own home isn't so painful. It's only when parents make it hard for you to grow that it can be particularly frustrating. Haha and now I sound like your run-off-the-mill average-teenager-who-hates-her-parents ;P which I don't, but it can be hard not to rant your pants off when everyone around you has the ability to make individual decisions.
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My parents were very strict with me. So much so that I moved out of my house when I was 19. I moved into a condo right beside the Skydome, during my first year at GBC. That was the most stressful year of my life. I lost 40lbs in 2 months. The stress of learning to live on my own and going to school/paying for school nearly killed me. I never asked my parents for help, and I lived downtown for 4 years.
I just recently moved back home because I'm finishing my Bach of Comm and decided that I deserved a break from the city. So I'm home and loving every second of it. I don't pay for groceries, cable, internet, hydro, parking, nothing. I do pay $400/month. But that's peanuts compared to my $1350/month condo.
My parents are so chill now, and I can pretty much do the same things I did, when I lived at home. I think things changed because they have a lot more respect for me. I survived alone in the city for 4 years. I never never never asked for help. I did everything on my own. I'm glad I did move out so young though. I learned a lot about myself and grew up real fast.
IMO both experiences are key to building a strong sense of yourself. But my advice is to not rush those experiences. They will happen on their own.
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