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bigbadsheep
Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:19:58 PM

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Stringer wrote:


The point is, SOMEBODY has to pay for tuition. If you want cheaper tuition, taxes have to be raised. Most people would be pissed about that because only certain people are benefiting from cheaper tuition.


That depends on the view of the person, but degrees that produce doctors, nurses, teachers etc. are hardly benefiting only certain people since they serve the community, so at minimum programs like this should be something the government looks into subsidizing.

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Stringer
Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:11:09 PM

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bigbadsheep wrote:
Stringer wrote:


The point is, SOMEBODY has to pay for tuition. If you want cheaper tuition, taxes have to be raised. Most people would be pissed about that because only certain people are benefiting from cheaper tuition.


That depends on the view of the person, but degrees that produce doctors, nurses, teachers etc. are hardly benefiting only certain people since they serve the community, so at minimum programs like this should be something the government looks into subsidizing.


Those professions make very good money. The benefits of working those jobs are the "subsidy". Plus, school is already very subsidized in Canada.

-Stringer
foreverinminor
Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:36:32 PM
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i don't think ti should cost anything or they shouldn't cost much at all, at least. it seems like it excludes too many people. tuition rates are sick! it doesn't make sense for them to be so high
Stringer
Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:47:41 PM

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foreverinminor wrote:
i don't think ti should cost anything or they shouldn't cost much at all, at least. it seems like it excludes too many people. tuition rates are sick! it doesn't make sense for them to be so high


Ah, to be young and naive again. smile

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NEM99
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:06:54 AM
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foreverinminor wrote:
i don't think ti should cost anything or they shouldn't cost much at all, at least. it seems like it excludes too many people. tuition rates are sick! it doesn't make sense for them to be so high


Move to Sweden. You would fit right in.


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BeccaTree
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:04:32 AM
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It's undeniable that the price of tuition for Universities throughout North America have been on the rise, and will most likely continue to do so. It has, as previously mentioned by other forum members, reached a point where university is not longer seen as an option for thousands of students across Canada, and more and more students are choosing to seek employment straight out of highschool rather than seeking post secondary education. By no means am I implying that this is in any way a bad thing but in a society where the job market is becoming more and more competitive and employers are requiring that job applicants have some sort of post secondary education I can't help but think that youth of today are getting 'the short end of the stick'.
stephaniesmith923
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:02:56 PM
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I think tuition rates should be cheaper all around. When you look at tuition costs, a lot of it is crazy how expensive it is!!! Ten thousand dollars a year or more isn't something everyone has in their back pockets....
Stringer
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:09:11 PM

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BeccaTree wrote:
It's undeniable that the price of tuition for Universities throughout North America have been on the rise, and will most likely continue to do so. It has, as previously mentioned by other forum members, reached a point where university is not longer seen as an option for thousands of students across Canada, and more and more students are choosing to seek employment straight out of highschool rather than seeking post secondary education. By no means am I implying that this is in any way a bad thing but in a society where the job market is becoming more and more competitive and employers are requiring that job applicants have some sort of post secondary education I can't help but think that youth of today are getting 'the short end of the stick'.


Why is it that enrollment rates are at an all-time high then?

-Stringer
MDoucett
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 1:20:59 PM

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samantharose13 wrote:
I agree. The tuition rates are utterly ridiculous, and discouraging for those who are unable to afford post-secondary schooling. Also, I find it unfair that financial need bursaries, etc are unavailable to students whose parents make a lot of money each year. Just because they're making a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean they're giving a lot. Agree?


Take my position for example. My stepdad owns his own business, which is worth lot of money. His income is consideratly less than the businesses worth. However loans, scholarships etc are based on financial need. My step dads business may be worth 2 Mill, but he brings home 45k, most of which ends up back in his business. So I'm screwed because I don't qualify as needing financial assistants.

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kelsey
Posted: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:47:23 PM
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I deffinetely agree. Tuition rates need to be lowered to accomidate for people who can't afford these increasing rates.
cynthia18
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:01:48 PM
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tuitioin is way too high. if you lower it you would get more students thus more money even tho it's lowered. they should have governemtn programs for middle class families too and single parent families!! Profs should get paid less too and then they wouldn't need so much money.
TaintedKane
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:35:09 PM

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Why can't North America follow the rest of Europe's example? At times like this I wish I am able to speak another European Language

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lovesbusiness
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:34:34 PM
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Well I am a pretty confident student so I dont really worry about how much tuition is. I have just been getting loans. I know its all going to add up by the time I am done all of my accounting programs.. but I am positive that I will eventually pay off the loans when I am making a decent amount of money.

n3xo
Posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:28:21 PM

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MDoucett wrote:
samantharose13 wrote:
I agree. The tuition rates are utterly ridiculous, and discouraging for those who are unable to afford post-secondary schooling. Also, I find it unfair that financial need bursaries, etc are unavailable to students whose parents make a lot of money each year. Just because they're making a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean they're giving a lot. Agree?


Take my position for example. My stepdad owns his own business, which is worth lot of money. His income is consideratly less than the businesses worth. However loans, scholarships etc are based on financial need. My step dads business may be worth 2 Mill, but he brings home 45k, most of which ends up back in his business. So I'm screwed because I don't qualify as needing financial assistants.


That's ridiculous. Unless your stepdad's business is completely financed by debt, you'd be cheating the system if you received a significant loan amount.

If your stepdad values his business over your education, then that's your own problem. Why make the rest of us that might not even have 100K in assets pay for your education?

Student loans are for people that cannot gather enough money to cover all the fees.
TaintedKane
Posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:11:05 PM

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n3xo wrote:
MDoucett wrote:
samantharose13 wrote:
I agree. The tuition rates are utterly ridiculous, and discouraging for those who are unable to afford post-secondary schooling. Also, I find it unfair that financial need bursaries, etc are unavailable to students whose parents make a lot of money each year. Just because they're making a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean they're giving a lot. Agree?


Take my position for example. My stepdad owns his own business, which is worth lot of money. His income is consideratly less than the businesses worth. However loans, scholarships etc are based on financial need. My step dads business may be worth 2 Mill, but he brings home 45k, most of which ends up back in his business. So I'm screwed because I don't qualify as needing financial assistants.


That's ridiculous. Unless your stepdad's business is completely financed by debt, you'd be cheating the system if you received a significant loan amount.

If your stepdad values his business over your education, then that's your own problem. Why make the rest of us that might not even have 100K in assets pay for your education?

Student loans are for people that cannot gather enough money to cover all the fees.


I think you are missing what he is saying the BUSINESS is 2mil BUT Their family's INCOME is 45K Not sure but that's what I understood

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n3xo
Posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:01:06 PM

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TaintedKane wrote:
n3xo wrote:
MDoucett wrote:
samantharose13 wrote:
I agree. The tuition rates are utterly ridiculous, and discouraging for those who are unable to afford post-secondary schooling. Also, I find it unfair that financial need bursaries, etc are unavailable to students whose parents make a lot of money each year. Just because they're making a lot, it doesn't necessarily mean they're giving a lot. Agree?


Take my position for example. My stepdad owns his own business, which is worth lot of money. His income is consideratly less than the businesses worth. However loans, scholarships etc are based on financial need. My step dads business may be worth 2 Mill, but he brings home 45k, most of which ends up back in his business. So I'm screwed because I don't qualify as needing financial assistants.


That's ridiculous. Unless your stepdad's business is completely financed by debt, you'd be cheating the system if you received a significant loan amount.

If your stepdad values his business over your education, then that's your own problem. Why make the rest of us that might not even have 100K in assets pay for your education?

Student loans are for people that cannot gather enough money to cover all the fees.


I think you are missing what he is saying the BUSINESS is 2mil BUT Their family's INCOME is 45K Not sure but that's what I understood


Please read my post again. I'm saying that the loans are meant for people that have no means of fully paying for their education, not for people whose parents deem their $2 million business more important than their kid's education.
TaintedKane
Posted: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:47:26 PM

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I said think >< dunno?

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dawn_s
Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:41:38 PM
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Thankfully in Qubec it isn't that expensive. It is actually the cheapest in canada, it only costs about 1000 ish in tuition
tjmontario
Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:30:53 PM
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I think the government should reimburse students for 50% of their tuition fees if, and only if, they graduate.
madelinez
Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:33:33 PM
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Tuition sucks, but I think that there are things that you gain that are worth the money you pay. Not all of them are academic. The faith-based university I go to, for example, is big into environmentalism and social justice. All of the classes somehow relate back to that. It's pretty cool, and I'm willing to pay for it.


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