How can you even say that? My mother pays good engineers fresh out of school 70 k a year and after a couple years, assuming they are good at there job, they can be making 80 90 100K. How is that garbage?

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No they went through the whole stats part, they expect a 6% error rate and again that is the top dectile of the people surveyed. It didn't mention where exactly they worked (as that's confidential information) but it did state the industry. IEEE is obviously only for Comp and Elec's so yeah they're all the tech firms

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-University of Toronto Electrical Engineering 1T0!

Actually I do get one elective...well technically two but Carleton has an asterisk beside the second one saying that you should probably take 'communication skills for engineers' or whatever it's called.

The more money you make the more you have to pay in income taxes, doubt it is about the jobs.
For example, my dad made $25k two years ago and the government paid him $5k back.
Last year, he took some of his pension and on paper he "made" around $50k and he owes the government because of that.

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Uschi
Queen's '10

haha maybe in oil-rich alberta? Company's probably in the oil industry?

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DD

Industrial Engineering seems like a BA in Engineering, I know there are jobs available for it. But I don't see why any BCom/BBA/Comp Sci person can't do it.

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University of Lost Hope, Broken Dreams and Tattered Souls - Sanitational Engineering '08
Self-help: I am taking Engineering, but Engineering isn't taking me.

That's awesome; I'm going into civil

So exactly what do you expect to make more at with a 4 year degree? According to OUAC, Nursing is the only thing that makes more 6 months and 2 years post grad with a 4 year degree, but their salary has more of an upper ceiling on it than an Engineer's does (Ontario Nursing Salaries (also includes ranges for other provinces)), and I think 5-10 years out your typical Engineer would be making more than the nurse. There may of course be smaller categories of professionals that make more.

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Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.

I'm more so saying that within Canada itself Engineering is a profession that is simply not worth the stress and work (for most people anyways - and this doesn't apply to government jobs / OPG / Hydro, etc) . Compared to other engineers in other countries, engineers are almost just considered the same as IT personel. In other countries such as Asia and Europe, being an Engineer is just as prestigious and rewarding as being a doctor! Here? No way, they pay you like crap, no one cares about you and you just go on being a slave.

It's just the view point that I've come to see and realized from speaking with a lot of engineers in Canada (again not to say that engineering is a bad profession and the jobs suck, they are still quite interesting - you just don't get the pay nor the recognition engineers deserve in Canada)

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-University of Toronto Electrical Engineering 1T0!

I think they definitely get the recognition. Whenever someone says they are in engineering, all I hear is "whoa, you must be pretty smart". Same goes if you tell someone you're an engineer. The pay isn't that great, and that's why I want to do law school right after my EE undergrad.

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University of Toronto Engineering 12'