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First Year Course Breakdowns? Options
Redrose27
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:53:46 PM

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I know UW has their general first year program outlines online (telling you what you'll be taking in which term, how many electives you have, etc). I haven't found a related one by Western for their programs. there's one that writes what you need to graduate and what to gain admission, etc. but i haven't really found an actual calendar showing this. does anyone have the link?

From what i've read/heard you take first year bio, chem, calc, and physics in first year regardless of your specialization in science. so are those just 4 of the 10 courses in general and the other 6 are electives or is it those four courses every term (so altogether 2 electives for one year)?
mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:49:56 PM
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You take bio, chem, calc, and physics both semesters... so that is really 8 courses (however, bio and chem are both full-year courses, so technically speaking they are each one "course")... then you can take two half courses or one full course as an elective.

FYI, half course = one-semester course, full course = two-semester course. Half course = 0.5 credits, full course = 1.0 credits (at Western at least).

What you are looking for is called an "academic calendar." This is Western's (for science programs). On the left column, you will see "Undergraduate Course Information"---this is a list of all courses and their descriptions. "Faculties" will lead you to the course requirements for your program of choice. When you click on "Undergraduate Course Information," be sure to scroll down to the bottom to check out the legend-type things.

What Western just released is the timetables for next year. Find the subject using the drop box, type in the course number (e.g. Biology 1222 is first-year bio for people who got 80%+ in SBI4U), and then you can see when that course is offered. Continuing with this, you can make yourself a preliminary schedule.

The exact requirements for first year are here: http://www.uwo.ca/biology/undergraduate/biomedfirstentry.htm. As you can see calculus is not a requirement; rather, it is on a list of courses that you can take to fulfill the math requirement---however, most people take Calc 050 and 081 (... in new course numbering, Calc 1000 and 1301 [although I would strongly suggest taking calc 1201 instead... it gets you into all the same programs, but it is easier than 1301]). Calc is a requirement for some graduate and professional programs, so I strongly suggest taking it and not one of the other math courses. To clarify (that site is a little unclear), Biology programs don't require you to take a full year of physics; medical science programs do. I would also strongly suggest taking a full year of physics because it leaves your options open and a lot of graduate and professional programs want you to have a full year of physics (and by full year I mean 1.0 credit... so either two half courses or one full course). Unfortunately, on that site, they haven't updated the course numbers yet (Western just changed the course numbers for all courses), but at the top of each department's undergraduate course information page (e.g. look at Biology's), there is a link that says "Click here for conversion list of former 3-digit course numbers," click on that to do the conversion.

If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask.

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Redrose27
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:17:54 PM

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hey mynameismattgotmlgo, thanks for the detailed answer! The course schedule looks reasonable enough; i'm not sure how the SE module is going to fit into that but hopefully it will.

Something else even more confusing is bugging me though. you see, i'm not fully certain i want to go into science. i'm one of the (few) people who don't have plans to go on to med school; my ideal job would have been as a professor or some sort of researcher. I'm also very interested in social sciences and for the longest time i thought something like archeology (with a history and a biology/chemistry component) would have been ideal for me. i accepted genetics and biochem and i'm wondering whether that's the right choice for me, particularly with the extra SE stuff. What i've heard is that, if you don't LOVE science, don't go into it. I find science really interesting, but it's never been something i've been particularly passionate about. i'm sorta wondering what i'm getting myself into since i'm not really into any discipline with 100% determination. ethical problems i have (animal testing) will also likely come up in my academic career and i'm concerned about how far i can go in science without at some point having to conduct animal research. le sigh. this is the worst time for me to be getting cold feet in going into science.
mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:34:24 PM
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The only way to figure out is to do. Science, engineering, and business were the three fields that interested me in high school, but I figured that I liked science the most of the three. I went with it, and I'm happy I did. I still think engineering and business are interesting, but I'd rather be in science. I'm sure that very few people go into university confident that they are in the right program. Remember: what you go into in first year is not set in stone, and quite a few people do end up transferring (programs and/or schools). A lot of the time when you transfer programs, you don't even need to do an extra year of university to catch up because a) not all the courses you take in first year will be a waste (e.g. if you take anthro as your elective and switch into anthro, you won't need to take it the next year) and b) you can use the other first-year courses as electives in the program you transfer to (e.g. a lot of honours specialization programs at Western require 9.0 courses after first year... this leaves 6.0 electives available to you after first year... this means you can (imagining that you switch into anthropology after first year) use the 4.0 courses you took in first year that weren't useful to that program as electives). In fact, the only required course for anthropology programs is first-year anthropology, so you could VERY easily enter an anthropology program if you take first-year anthro. If you have an interest in archaeology, I suggest taking Anthropology 1025F and 1026G as your electives next year (if you go to Western).

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