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zmike
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:39:37 PM
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Does anyone know what kind of degree (and from where) would be best suited to start working in particle physics? Anyone know about the wages in this field?

thanks

Wordsworth
Miss
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:56:18 PM

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try looking around on jobfutures.ca

http://www.jobfutures.ca/fos/M750p1.shtml is an example, although it is for a masters.

I think that a major in physics would be recommended, or a major in engineering physics.

Um, I don't know about the wages, I'm assuming they'd be decent, although finding the job may be difficult.
Worst comes to worst, you could even get a teaching license to teach physics at the university or high school level. they're usually on the lookout for physics teachers....

My physics teacher has a double degree in physics and mathematics, and she's ridiculously smart, but she teaches because she loves it.

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Elusive
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:08:33 PM
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wut jobs are specfic towards partical physics, other than pure resesarch? All i think of are power plants and Los Alamos, lol.

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Kaylya
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:47:13 PM

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Worst comes to worst, you could even get a teaching license to teach physics at the university or high school level.


There is no such thing as a teaching license for teaching at the university level. To be a university prof, you need a PhD. You can get away with no formal training in how to teach (although some training is offered, and might help you get a job). There are also sometimes instructor positions available that usually require a Master's, but they wouldn't tend to be as secure as a professor job nor do they tend to pay particularly well.

Without being an expert in Physics, I think you're basically looking at getting a PhD and then doing research/teaching at a university, or research at a place like the NRC. An undergrad degree in Physics doesn't get you that far in the job market from what I hear.

Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.
Stringer
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:14:07 PM

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Kaylya wrote:
Quote:
Worst comes to worst, you could even get a teaching license to teach physics at the university or high school level.


There is no such thing as a teaching license for teaching at the university level. To be a university prof, you need a PhD. You can get away with no formal training in how to teach (although some training is offered, and might help you get a job). There are also sometimes instructor positions available that usually require a Master's, but they wouldn't tend to be as secure as a professor job nor do they tend to pay particularly well.

Without being an expert in Physics, I think you're basically looking at getting a PhD and then doing research/teaching at a university, or research at a place like the NRC. An undergrad degree in Physics doesn't get you that far in the job market from what I hear.


Not all disciplines require Ph.D.s to become professors.

-Stringer
Kaylya
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:56:50 PM

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Stringer wrote:
Kaylya wrote:
Quote:
Worst comes to worst, you could even get a teaching license to teach physics at the university or high school level.


There is no such thing as a teaching license for teaching at the university level. To be a university prof, you need a PhD. You can get away with no formal training in how to teach (although some training is offered, and might help you get a job). There are also sometimes instructor positions available that usually require a Master's, but they wouldn't tend to be as secure as a professor job nor do they tend to pay particularly well.

Without being an expert in Physics, I think you're basically looking at getting a PhD and then doing research/teaching at a university, or research at a place like the NRC. An undergrad degree in Physics doesn't get you that far in the job market from what I hear.


Not all disciplines require Ph.D.s to become professors.


1. He's talking about Physics
2. Even in Business which is probably the most lax about these sorts of things the vast majority of professors have PhD's.

Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.
zmike
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:07:13 PM
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so if I wanted to start at U of T which program do I apply for (couldn't find any info on their website on the undergrad programs)?

say that I went to Life Sci first year and I want to keep the possibility of switching to this degree which courses should I take (besides obviously physics)?

Wordsworth
Lamoid
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:13:48 PM

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If you want to do research in particle physics you are going to have to go to graduate school.

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Stringer
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:28:33 PM

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Kaylya wrote:
Stringer wrote:
Kaylya wrote:
Quote:
Worst comes to worst, you could even get a teaching license to teach physics at the university or high school level.


There is no such thing as a teaching license for teaching at the university level. To be a university prof, you need a PhD. You can get away with no formal training in how to teach (although some training is offered, and might help you get a job). There are also sometimes instructor positions available that usually require a Master's, but they wouldn't tend to be as secure as a professor job nor do they tend to pay particularly well.

Without being an expert in Physics, I think you're basically looking at getting a PhD and then doing research/teaching at a university, or research at a place like the NRC. An undergrad degree in Physics doesn't get you that far in the job market from what I hear.


Not all disciplines require Ph.D.s to become professors.


1. He's talking about Physics
2. Even in Business which is probably the most lax about these sorts of things the vast majority of professors have PhD's.


1. I was just clarifying so people interested in teaching aren't mislead in thinking that every professor has a Ph.D.

2. Are you kidding? Barely any of my professors (if any) have Ph.Ds. Who do you think teaches accounting? People with CAs, CMAs, etc, not Ph.Ds. Same goes for a ton of business courses. I'm sure there are other faculties that don't require Ph.Ds either.

-Stringer


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