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Difficulty of university compared to HS Options
Sean1218
Posted: August 23, 2010 9:48:39 AM
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I know that this gets asked a lot, but I haven't been able to get the answer I'm looking for. People talk about the differences in lifestyle, the need for a solid work ethic and time management skills, the larger workload etc., but I can't find a lot of information purely on the difficulty of the exams. How does an exam question in university compare to one in high school? I'm just worried about the type of brutal questions that I won't be able to answer, prepared or not.

edit: asking more about science courses
kraken.
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depends largely on the subject I think.

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Posted: August 23, 2010 10:07:46 AM
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How you'll find university will depend on how well your HS prepared you for university. Students who went to high schools that gave them 90s for doing very little will find it harder to transition to university. On the other hand, students who went to high schools that made them work for their 90s usually have no problems in year-1 university.

With respect to exam questions, the questions you'll find on university-level exams will require you to think, for the most part. Depending on your HS, you may or may not be used to this. Some high schools will hand out "review problems" prior to an exam, but the actual exam will contain virtually the same questions (different numbers, etc.). Some HS exams are based on the regurgitation of facts. Whereas, university exams will test your ability to solve problems, think critically, and apply the learned facts and concepts. Students who study superficially and purely by memorization will have a tough time on most university exams.

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pumpkin
Posted: August 23, 2010 10:33:57 AM
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I found the amount of reading required(and the density of the material) to be vastly increased compared to high school. In 1st yr English, it was a novel a week. There is none of the "busywork" given out in high school that increase grades( little projects, homework assignments, bristol board displays...lol)-just essays, and more essays, tests and exams..which are mostly essays.

In humaniities/social science courses anyways.

Being prepared for tutorials is also key. In high school you can sort of keep up and still contribute to discussion, and the discussion is not usually weighed into the mark. In university, it is clear right away in tutorial who has actually read and thought about the material, and can apply it to the lecture. If you don't do the work, you look like an idiot, and the class participation marks are quite critical for most courses.

Keep up with readings, try not to miss classes and it shouldn't be a huge transition.
rt1279
Posted: August 23, 2010 10:57:17 AM
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for one, thinking is required.
ederthree
Posted: August 23, 2010 11:04:32 AM

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If you keep your work ethic the same, expect a 10% drop in marks. Simple as that.
CheeseCake
Posted: August 23, 2010 12:58:54 PM

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ederthree wrote:
If you keep your work ethic the same, expect a 10% drop in marks. Simple as that.


i'd say 20% drop easy. then again, i had 4 spares in gr. 12scratch

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.
Gorges26
Posted: August 23, 2010 3:10:14 PM

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CheeseCake wrote:

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.
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CheeseCake wrote:
ederthree wrote:
If you keep your work ethic the same, expect a 10% drop in marks. Simple as that.


i'd say 20% drop easy. then again, i had 4 spares in gr. 12scratch

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


what you had 4 spares in grade 12?? what other courses did you even take?
and don't you get lazy having mostly free time? i'd kill to have 4 spares! i could just chill and relax the entire semester!
rt1279
Posted: August 23, 2010 4:23:55 PM
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Gorges26 wrote:


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


ppl usually say that about high school, not university.
Caylynn
Posted: August 23, 2010 4:24:48 PM

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flee32 wrote:
How you'll find university will depend on how well your HS prepared you for university. Students who went to high schools that gave them 90s for doing very little will find it harder to transition to university. On the other hand, students who went to high schools that made them work for their 90s usually have no problems in year-1 university.

With respect to exam questions, the questions you'll find on university-level exams will require you to think, for the most part. Depending on your HS, you may or may not be used to this. Some high schools will hand out "review problems" prior to an exam, but the actual exam will contain virtually the same questions (different numbers, etc.). Some HS exams are based on the regurgitation of facts. Whereas, university exams will test your ability to solve problems, think critically, and apply the learned facts and concepts. Students who study superficially and purely by memorization will have a tough time on most university exams.


100% true. smile Many of the questions on exams in university will be unlike problems you solved in class or on assignments - profs want to see if you can take the knowledge you've learned and apply it to a new problem. So unlike high school, where the questions were ones you had already done, just with new numbers/scenarios/whatever or questions that required pure memorization (ie. for biology, having to remember the entire photosynthesis chain), at university, you will likely encounter questions that require true problem solving and the ability to use what you have learned in new situations.

Of course, there are still plenty of exams with pure memorization questions (especially in courses like organic chemistry or biochemistry) but you'll also need to problem solve, and the problems may not be similar to ones you've encountered before.

Beyond that, in first year, it's not so much that the material is difficult but that the pace of things is so much faster than in high school. You go through material at a much quicker pace, and it is very easy to fall behind if you don't keep on top of things. Don't be afraid to ask your TAs or go to your prof's office hours if you find you are having difficulties. You don't want to wait until the day before the exam and realize that you don't understand some important concepts.

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ederthree
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Gorges26 wrote:
CheeseCake wrote:

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


No one can do that in university...not even high school
MashedPotato
Posted: August 23, 2010 4:50:18 PM
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doens't matter how your high schools was. easy 90s, hard 90s, whatever
it depends on YOU. if you have common sense, you will realize that uni is harder than high school so you should invest more time in your studies. if you do that, you will get high marks.
CheeseCake
Posted: August 23, 2010 6:04:47 PM

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inuyasha1690 wrote:
CheeseCake wrote:
ederthree wrote:
If you keep your work ethic the same, expect a 10% drop in marks. Simple as that.


i'd say 20% drop easy. then again, i had 4 spares in gr. 12scratch

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


what you had 4 spares in grade 12?? what other courses did you even take?
and don't you get lazy having mostly free time? i'd kill to have 4 spares! i could just chill and relax the entire semester!


i couldve had 7 spares in grade 12 if i didn't need to take religion and prereqs for university science program. i had additional 3 korean school credits and 2 piano credits avaliable. i had half days for the entire year working a part time job and volunteering with developmentally handicapped students in the morning to kill off some of the excess free time.
Gorges26
Posted: August 23, 2010 6:18:44 PM

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rt1279 wrote:
Gorges26 wrote:


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


ppl usually say that about high school, not university.


The "i study for 30 minutes a week" thing was an exaggeration. My point is that people still come here and trivialize how much effort needs to be put in during university (and high school, yes).
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Gorges26 wrote:
CheeseCake wrote:

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


This is 100% correct. I actually didn't find the material to be all that "hard". It was just hard allocating enough time for each course in order for me to properly understand what I needed to be on top of.

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uni_my_goal
Posted: August 23, 2010 7:04:53 PM
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ederthree wrote:
Gorges26 wrote:
CheeseCake wrote:

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


No one can do that in university...not even high school

Ya, I have never heard anyone say that.

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ederthree wrote:
Gorges26 wrote:
CheeseCake wrote:

i didn't find the courses difficult as much as overwhelming. i could do all the stuff if i put in the required time, but it was working for endless hours everyweek that was very difficult/frustrating.


+1. It's nice to see someone make an honest post, and not the typical "lol its not hard at all, i studied for 30 mins a week and still got a 3.9 GPA in first year" keener BS.


No one can do that in university...not even high school


It's feasible in HS if you're either a genius or you take really easy courses. Definitely not in uni though.
ederthree
Posted: August 24, 2010 7:56:46 AM

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Still though, half an hour a week of studying in High School is still like impossible.

That means you do zero outside of class except for a grand total of half an hour on a sunday night to cover all your courses.

That's not even enough time to do homework or assignments.
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Did you all miss the part where I said I was exaggerating with the 30 minute thing? scratch


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