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How do you know if business is right for you? Options
brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 11:17:14 AM
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What characteristics and traits should you have? What should your personality, likes, and dislikes be like? How do you know if you'd be better suited for something else like science?

I've been doing amazingly well in business courses. (95+)
Even my business teachers tell me to go into business.
But, I still feel business isn't right for me since most of the stuff we learn is knowledge, and not really application.

Let's say if i got a 95+ in grade 12 accounting, would that mean I could do well in business?
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Posted: July 20, 2010 11:40:49 AM

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i'd say that business is way more application than any of the other subjects.

i've done all the science courses in uni...thats pure knowledge (at least at this level). business concepts are easily applied to the real world.

thats just my 2 cents.

o and do what you are interested in and passionate about, not what your teachers tell you.

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nutMEG
Posted: July 20, 2010 11:44:35 AM

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Go on careercrusing.com. It's a test that shows you what they think you'll be interested in and be good at.

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edertwo
Posted: July 20, 2010 11:45:29 AM

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In university the stuff you learn in business classes will all be practical.

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brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 12:24:20 PM
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Yeah, because most of the marks in my business courses come from reading the textbook and just reviewing the material.

But, when we had to do this marketing project, I didn't do so well in that, but that seems like a big indicator of whether business is for me since I know you would need marketing skills.



edertwo
Posted: July 20, 2010 12:25:28 PM

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brady23 wrote:
Yeah, because most of the marks in my business courses come from reading the textbook and just reviewing the material.

But, when we had to do this marketing project, I didn't do so well in that, but that seems like a big indicator of whether business is for me since I know you would need marketing skills.





You will learn marketing skills.

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foreverandalways
Posted: July 20, 2010 12:36:36 PM
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oh gosh, not careercruising! hah!

I had the same thing in grade eleven. I did really well in Biology and Chemistry, but I wasn't interested in doing it at a university level; I wanted an education and a career that was more practical, not just theories and labs, and thus decided not to take any sciences in my final year.

Do I regret it? Not a chance.

If you enjoy presentations, leadership activities and like the concepts you learn in grade twelve accounting, then go for it.
If you're only doing well in the classes because of textbook memorization, then I'd reconsider your options.

Don't be too pressured by your teachers. My teachers wanted me to be a CA. One of them even told me "I see it in your destiny" and strongly encouraged me to apply to Waterloo's AFM and Math/CA programs. I didn't apply to either; I am not going to become a CA. smile

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brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 12:57:09 PM
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Thanks foreverandforalways - that is exactly how I feel! I love sciences, but I don't seem to find a science career that really suits me since I don't want to do research or experiments. And you're right, I think I'm doing well in business because of good memorization skills, but I do have a knack for accounting.
And since business can be a very stressful career and you need good sales skills, I don't think it would be good for me.

to edertwo: I know, but you can't just learn marketing skills. It's really one of those things where you're good at it, or not - and I am not!
imsyed
Posted: July 20, 2010 1:08:38 PM

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brady23 wrote:
Thanks foreverandforalways - that is exactly how I feel! I love sciences, but I don't seem to find a science career that really suits me since I don't want to do research or experiments. And you're right, I think I'm doing well in business because of good memorization skills, but I do have a knack for accounting.
And since business can be a very stressful career and you need good sales skills, I don't think it would be good for me.

to edertwo: I know, but you can't just learn marketing skills. It's really one of those things where you're good at it, or not - and I am not!


+1 to the marketing one... a good sales person/marketing guy is born and not taught..

The part where u say u love something.. i say u should go for it...
Science always interests me... the weird thingies in the sky.. how the heart works and stuff...

But really it wasnt my thing... I knew it frm the start.. i just loved dealing with money (not numbers though razz ) and I loved to talk... economics and the way businesses worked always interested me too.. If u are talkin abt the business subs.. well dont depend on those.. Science nerds usually have great memorization skills (no hard feelings..) i am doin Alevels and a few frnds frm the science stream take business they get A's... which is more or less supposed to be difficult..

I say u are a science man and should go for the sciences.. but that just comes form what i have read so far...

Its truly your choice.. dont look at the money and other factors.. Listen to your heart.. smile

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edertwo
Posted: July 20, 2010 1:17:48 PM

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Dude, when you study economics/finance/accounting in university you don't need marketing skills.

You need good analytical skills and logic. You're not going door to door or in front of a camera selling Shamwows.

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imsyed
Posted: July 20, 2010 1:20:28 PM

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edertwo wrote:
Dude, when you study economics/finance/accounting in university you don't need marketing skills.

You need good analytical skills and logic. You're not going door to door or in front of a camera selling Shamwows.



Thats true.. but u were wrong where u said u will "learn marketing skills"...

Perhaps at uni we may enhance them.. but no body can teach u to be a good sales person or what ever razz

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2.Queens Commerce
3.Richard Ivey School of business
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vinniesmith
Posted: July 20, 2010 1:28:52 PM

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school can teach you accounting, economics, marketing etc and you might do really well in the classes. However just because you are smart, doesn't mean you will do well in business. Business you need drive, passion... stuff no school can teach.

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JX2
Posted: July 20, 2010 3:40:24 PM

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to all of you torn between business and science, i had the same problem. but i have a solution! smile

the ivey 2+2 program is perfect. you get to try out science for 2 years (you can take business courses as your electives). at the end of 2nd year you can decide whether you want to go into business, stay in science or do both (the double degree program).

i decided to switch from science to business at the end of second year. i still graduate on time.

coming out of grade 12 i did not have enough experience to make such an important decision - one that would define my career.

ivey is an elite school and western biomed is also a very good program.

the only catch, you need to keep an 80 average in your first two years of university (very doable).

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Crit
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:00:45 PM
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brady23 wrote:
What characteristics and traits should you have? What should your personality, likes, and dislikes be like? How do you know if you'd be better suited for something else like science?

I've been doing amazingly well in business courses. (95+)
Even my business teachers tell me to go into business.
But, I still feel business isn't right for me since most of the stuff we learn is knowledge, and not really application.

Let's say if i got a 95+ in grade 12 accounting, would that mean I could do well in business?


Whoever doesn't get 95+ in business courses is a braindead, so all that can be said about you is that you are not braindead.
My business teachers in high school recommend everybody to go into business. It is expected of teachers to do this for many (obvious) reasons.
Business is not about knowledge at all, but for application. If you have't done much application in your business classes, your teachers are clearly incompetent and ignorant so you should probably ignore their recommendation for you to get into business.




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uoft_physics_14
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:05:51 PM
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brady23 wrote:
What characteristics and traits should you have?


Basically, you should have no talent in any of the more useful subjects and be lacking in intelligence but strong in presentation and social skills. You should also have no ambition for anything besides money.

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JX2
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:23:00 PM

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uoft_physics_14 wrote:
brady23 wrote:
What characteristics and traits should you have?


Basically, you should have no talent in any of the more useful subjects and be lacking in intelligence but strong in presentation and social skills. You should also have no ambition for anything besides money.


harsh mr. u of T physics

i aced physics in high school and university but i guess that since it's not considered one of the more useful subjects, your argument still stands.

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Jiraishin
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:23:10 PM
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uoft_physics_14 wrote:
brady23 wrote:
What characteristics and traits should you have?


Basically, you should have no talent in any of the more useful subjects and be lacking in intelligence but strong in presentation and social skills. You should also have no ambition for anything besides money.


Hahaha I like, I like.
brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:56:54 PM
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Wow thanks guys!
Well as much as I loved sciences, I really loved learning about finance/money in business class this semester, and was even researching good paying careers in finance, but I could only find a financial advisor. I was even in the investment club and loved it, but from what my business teacher told me, you're expected to get clients to use your services, and that requires somewhat good sales skills. I just don't want to go into anything where I might have to persuade someone to get into something they don't want to.
brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 4:59:20 PM
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vinniesmith wrote:
school can teach you accounting, economics, marketing etc and you might do really well in the classes. However just because you are smart, doesn't mean you will do well in business. Business you need drive, passion... stuff no school can teach.


Yeah...I took an accounting, economics, and finance course and I did very well in them (95+). I really did like learning about it, and some of it was memorization and some of it was understanding.
brady23
Posted: July 20, 2010 5:02:10 PM
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JX2 wrote:
to all of you torn between business and science, i had the same problem. but i have a solution! smile

the ivey 2+2 program is perfect. you get to try out science for 2 years (you can take business courses as your electives). at the end of 2nd year you can decide whether you want to go into business, stay in science or do both (the double degree program).

i decided to switch from science to business at the end of second year. i still graduate on time.

coming out of grade 12 i did not have enough experience to make such an important decision - one that would define my career.

ivey is an elite school and western biomed is also a very good program.

the only catch, you need to keep an 80 average in your first two years of university (very doable).


Seriously! Could you please tell me about this 2+2 program? Could I do civil engineering and if I decided to go into both, I could get a double degree! That sounds awesome.


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