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Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". who said anything about them becoming our future doctors? lol Again people need to take what's being said on these forums lightly as it is just ONE person's opinion, there are many others who feel the opposite of that poster... be smart when you're on these forums
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Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". If these "good schools" are operating like factories then i would say these these bright young people have the right to choose a school which espouses an educational philosophy which is to their liking, wouldn't you agree?
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CRAZYBUBBA wrote:Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". If these "good schools" are operating like factories then i would say these these bright young people have the right to choose a school which espouses an educational philosophy which is to their liking, wouldn't you agree? The only "educational philosophy" that many here want seems to be one where you are guaranteed high marks. Sorry but these are life science students and it's not hard to imagine that the majority want to get into med school. It seems to me a patient would want a doctor who went to a REALLY hard school.
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As a patient i just want my doctor to be knowledgeable and caring. I wouldn't care if they went to "hard" undergrad program
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I guess that we can check the degrees on their walls and make sure that they didn't go to Western or Queen's or Mac  These kids don't seem to be looking for a free ride IMO, rather a fair shake, that's surely not too much to ask.
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precious wrote:As a patient i just want my doctor to be knowledgeable and caring. I wouldn't care if they went to "hard" undergrad program You'd want a doctor who avoided going to a school because someone told him on a forum it was too hard?
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Lamoid wrote:precious wrote:As a patient i just want my doctor to be knowledgeable and caring. I wouldn't care if they went to "hard" undergrad program You'd want a doctor who avoided going to a school because someone told him on a forum it was too hard? well, it really is hard. If you become an MD, nobody's going to care where you went for your undergrad anyways.
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don't stereotype, most students in life sciences are not going to become doctors.
I am planning to go microbiology or pharmacology if I decide to continue in the life sci program.
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streetballa3433,
1. Please don't quote the entire post. It should be avoided wherever possible as per the forum rules.
2. How can you judge him? You haven't even been in university for one year yet. Let's tone down the insults.
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Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". Don't think that's the idea. I think the idea is you learn the same or more in a school that cares more, so technically better doctors should come from other schools. His other issue is that if you go there you likely won't even become a doctor, since to get required marks, looks to be impossible.
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Lamoid wrote:CRAZYBUBBA wrote:Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". If these "good schools" are operating like factories then i would say these these bright young people have the right to choose a school which espouses an educational philosophy which is to their liking, wouldn't you agree? The only "educational philosophy" that many here want seems to be one where you are guaranteed high marks. Sorry but these are life science students and it's not hard to imagine that the majority want to get into med school. It seems to me a patient would want a doctor who went to a REALLY hard school. No... wouldn't they want a doctor who knows something? The fact that they mark harder doesn't mean they teach more...
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i honestly think it just depends on how motivated you are and how disciplined you are in studying and working. my sister is graduating from UT and she has a 3.8 GPA. in her first year she got above 85...i asked her after reading these posts cause i got scared, and she told me theyll only bell curve your mark down if its in the 90s. very rarely will they bell curve your mark down if youre in the 80 range. she said shes only been bell curved down once, and shes been bell curved up tonnes.
shes a hard worker, but she still has a social life. she commuted so im pretty surprised she made as many friends as she did.
have faith, dont get too discouraged.
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I'm too lazy to quote... so... You're welcome. I'm a dude. UTSC is easier than UTSG, but the atmosphere is different (less competitive) so the average is the same. You will do better in UTSC, but what other Unis did you apply to? Thing about UTSC is that it's just like a large high school... some people who go there say it lacks Uni life. Others say the opposite to be fair. I think you'll do well at UTSC if you work just as hard as you would as UTSG, but don't rule out other Unis! You are right, the reason I refuse to switch is because I thought the same. If I can't handle this, how will I handle med school? But there's a difference between integrity and stupidness. Think about it... they will learn the same material, have great profs either way, get research easier (but in more restrictive labs), and have more time to do ECs (extra curricular activities). One thing I do have to say is IF you make it through UT and into med school, you've been through so much you have a definite advantage. But still man, UT undergrad is no better than any other Uni. Yes, I am weird. What idiot would not sleep every other night during exam period? A UTSG life sci.... that's who. But no my friend, I'm not stupid. If I were stupid, I wouldn't have done that well with relatively little studying. There are people that got 90s in high school, study consistently, and still do bad.  Side note: I didn't work as hard as I should have. I know this. But I am now, and I'm confident I'll 4.0 every year from now on. I've learned the tricks, but sadly many others have not and wont. I'm planning to go to UWO med school btw. Hopefully, I'll get into the Neurosurgery programs (16 years of studying just to cut open ppls brains!) Gl. =)
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Do non-U of T students really learn the same material as U of T students? I know someone who transferred from UBC to U of T as a life science student, and she struggled in her first semester there because the courses at U of T were more indepth than the equivalent ones at UBC, but ultimately she was glad to transfer because UBC was shallower.
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omz222 wrote:Do non-U of T students really learn the same material as U of T students? I know someone who transferred from UBC to U of T as a life science student, and she struggled in her first semester there because the courses at U of T were more indepth than the equivalent ones at UBC, but ultimately she was glad to transfer because UBC was shallower. Maybe UBC is just a bit easier. My first year roommate transfered into UBC science after his second year at Queen's and found it more to his liking. It's strange because i consider UBC to be a good school. Different courses= different difficulty?
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Lamoid wrote:CRAZYBUBBA wrote:Lamoid wrote:Good to see our future doctors looking to avoid going to "hard schools". If these "good schools" are operating like factories then i would say these these bright young people have the right to choose a school which espouses an educational philosophy which is to their liking, wouldn't you agree? The only "educational philosophy" that many here want seems to be one where you are guaranteed high marks. Sorry but these are life science students and it's not hard to imagine that the majority want to get into med school. It seems to me a patient would want a doctor who went to a REALLY hard school. The next time you see a doctor, make sure he/she went to a really hard undergraduate school ;)
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omz222 wrote:Do non-U of T students really learn the same material as U of T students? I know someone who transferred from UBC to U of T as a life science student, and she struggled in her first semester there because the courses at U of T were more indepth than the equivalent ones at UBC, but ultimately she was glad to transfer because UBC was shallower. well that depends on the situtation, maybe she transferred from UBC First Year into UofT second year.
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Okee. Guys
I am going to Fourth year in U of T life Science.
And yep.. Life Science is quite hard and it is true that most of my friends sleep in the library sometimes.
But there are a couple advantages with U of T that other school don't offer.
When I worked in the Career Center which helps arrange employment relations with some companies.
A lof employers would rather hire a U of T grads than others if your GPA is good for the last two years.
As U of T is hard and famous for being hard so your GPA means something...
I think if you really want to go to Medical School.. Do go somewhere give out easier mark...
As U of T life science won't allow you to have much time left in your life..
Asian people are dominant in U of T by the way... espeically if you are in Science related program..
(I am one of them too)
And I fear as Asian students are so used to "grilled" style study.. ( Image more than 5 hours per day every single day)
Study Hard is not an option..
Good luck everyone!!
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haha I hope to be a doc in future and I believe that one shd juz take the courses that he is interested in, regardless of their difficulty. If you work hard, it would be fine. Life science @UTSG Trinity is the way to go for me. Cheerz to all who dare to attempt harder courses at seeminly more intellectualling challenging schools. 
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Um, I believe almost all universities bell curve their marks. I know they do it at laurier, western, u of t, etc. It might be slightly harder, but med school is difficult anywhere: omsas conversion chart http://www.ouac.on.ca/omsas/pdf/c_omsas_b.pdf U of T is 3 or 7 i believe, I can't remember which life sci falls into, all I know is one is for engineering, the other is for arts & sci/commerce i think.... so for example, comparing 3 and 4, it'd be easier to get 70s in 3, but it' dbe much easier to get 60s in 4, even though 4 allows for more students to be in their 90s.
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