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Rank: Senior Student
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um you guys shouldn't be blaming the kids, blame the parents its their fault for spoiling them.
I'll be honest I would fall into the spoiled category as well (household income of $1million +), living expenses paid for, can ask for money whenever I want...but I still try and pay my own for tuition (got 2 years down already), work over 20 hours part time in addition to school as well as internships over the summer.
Schulich BBA
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Rank: Student Body Vice-President
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Location: London (UWO)
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Meh, it is something you'll just have to get used to. At Western, there are plenty of spoiled rich kids driving their daddies' BMW, Mercedes, Audi, or Escalade. One kid on my floor in first year was in university just for fun---he is going to take over his dad's business, so whatever education he gets will be sort of pointless (especially because he isn't studying business). But like the above poster said, it isn't so much the kids' fault as it is their parents'.
My dad is an interesting example of that. Around the time my dad (who has seven brothers and one sister, all younger than him) was our age, my grandpa really started raking in the dough. With the exception of my dad and his oldest brother, who is only like a year younger than my dad, all the other kids grew up spoiled. The only two who ended up not becoming complete bums, of course, were my dad and my oldest uncle. Although my grandparents are rich, they cannot support our entire family, so all of my once-spoiled uncles are now living mediocre lifestyles. Also, among my thirty or so cousins, only three made it to university: myself and the two cousins from my oldest uncle, one of whom is finishing up at Cornell. Moral of the story: spoiled rich kids have it easy right now, but chances are that they'll fail later in life.
Honours BMSc Specialization in Medical Science, Minor in Psychology UWO '09
Bachelor of Pharmacy Alberta '13 ???
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Rank: Student Body President
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Location: Ottawa
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While I wouldn't say this was ever really exactly said, I very much got the impression that my parents would only help me so long as I helped myself (by getting jobs over the summer and not wasting my money, etc). While at times I've had tuition and rez covered, spending money on top of that was always up to me and over time there's been less support because I haven't needed it. I know that if I truly need some money I can ask for it, but I'd totally get cut off if I started abusing that like some people do. Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum from spoiling parents, is my friend's mom who still has access to his bank account and credit card and scrutinizes every single purchase he makes, and then complains if he spends any money he doesn't really need to, like taking his girlfriend out to dinner once every month or two or buying like 2 computer games over his university career (meanwhile his brother bought himself things like a unicycle and a Wii and never got any flack for that..)
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 3/18/2008
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Yeah, this issue sort of bugs me. Some of my friends will never have to worry about any of these financial money problems and yet they still have something to complain about. I'd love for those people to last one minute in the average non-supportive college or university student's shoes. I doubt that they'd complain or be greedy about their money after that.
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 3/28/2008
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Location: Vancouver
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The deal with my parents is that they will help with tuition but i have to pay for everything else. That means books, housing (if I ever decide to move out) and all the other expendatures that university life entailes. I think it's fair becuase it means that I'll have to work part-time, but the amount I work will be dictated by the type to life I decide to lead. The more I spend, the more I'll have to work, but at least the tuition part has a bit of a boost. For now, I'm working about 25 hours a week while I finish high school, and apply to lots of scholarships in hopes of getting something. We'll see.
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Rank: Frosh
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It's probably just the fact that some people have been spoiled their entire lives and don't understand that some people can't afford university. You know, the kids who'Ve never had jobs and their parents still pay for all their clothing.
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 3/23/2008
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Location: vancouver
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those kids that get everything from their parents will nv learn to survive on their own, its kinda the parents faught but sometimes they just don't noe any better cause they r busy trying to make it rite for the kids.
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Rank: Frosh
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Location: Nfld.
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What makes me angry is that some of the people who I know are spending their student loans on limo's and parties, and there are so many students who can barely live on the minimal loans that they receive. I think that when someone receives a loan, they should have to provide receipts or something of the sort to show where their money is going.
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Rank: Frosh
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Location: Canada
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My family meens the world to me! I know they will be there for me no matter what. I currently live with my single parent mom who works 5 jobs just to make ends meet... my dad lives in another province and he doesnt work at all so I wont be getting any help from him when it comes time to pay for school. My mom is also my role modle... she works hard and provides for many people even if it meens she has to go without something. She is the best mom I could ever ask for and I am very proud of her. Though I love my mom and my family I also cant wait to get out on my own just like any other teenager. Though I also know that it doesnt matter where I go in the world and what I do that I will always be close to my family - especially my mom who I know will miss me a lot. One day I hope to have a family of my own and I hope that I am as great a mom as mine. 
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Rank: Frosh
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I agree as well it sux. My dad is the only one parent in my house who works and he works in a factoy. I am not getting any help for university financially from my parents and i dnt blame them. its alot of money and my parents just can not afford it. It is really tough trying to come up with this money on your own. Thats why i am hoping i win a scholarship. So far no luck but i am oing to just keep trying
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Rank: Frosh
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I know what you mean but anyone who makes there own way is better off in the long run. We are stronger people when it comes down to the struggles in this life. I always think we should be proud of who we are and where we came from even if its not the upscale life we are taught to dream of and want.
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 4/13/2008
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Location: Three Hills, Alberta
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It doesnt help anyone when parents provide absolutely everything, but they should be involved to a certain extent. my parents are middle class, not rich not poor, but they insist i provide for myself as much as possible, ie full time work w/ strict summer savings plan, endless hours searching for scholarships, but at least i know when ends dont meet they are there to help me out. also i couldnt take advantage of them, due to mutual respect and the fact that my dad would probably kick my butt if he found out i was blowing his money on alcohol
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