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GGG
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:06:33 PM

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Well, i've taken computer engineering in gr. 11, but never Computer Science course.

Turns out that I have to take CS courses in university, so I'm wondering what it's about.
Is it about like word processing, excel, and such?

DD
ACTH
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:13:03 PM

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It's actually got nothing to do with the aforementioned computer programs, sorry.

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eco
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:05:34 PM
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It's sorta like comp. engineering, but straight programming. Java etc.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:47:55 AM
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the CS courses you'll have to take will either be yes basic using windows and applications (if it's like CS101 or something) or it'll be straight programming (Java or C/C++) however CS students themselves will have to look forward to a crapload of REALLY hard math and algorithms courses, data structures, software design, etc, etc

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GGG wrote:
Well, i've taken computer engineering in gr. 11, but never Computer Science course.

Turns out that I have to take CS courses in university, so I'm wondering what it's about.
Is it about like word processing, excel, and such?


lol cs...as in counter strike course?
pr
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:33:38 AM
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The CS courses you will have to take as a WLU DD student are nothing like what the above replies suggest.
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Kaylya
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:14:07 PM

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I assume the course you'd have to take (Math/Business DD right?) is an introduction to programming type course. While CS departments often do offer general computer use courses covering stuff like MS Office, it's unlikely that that is what you have to take.

That being said, universities have these lovely things called Calendars, which will include a listing of courses you need for your program, and, while it may or may not be cross referenced with a link, will also include descriptions of those courses.

Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.
streetballa3433
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:04:32 PM
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if you don't already know microsoft office apps forwards and backwards, ur prolly already behind in terms of computers.
basically ur gonna do a whole bunch of programming (much more advanced than usage).


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scarboro
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:18:04 PM
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Looking at the course outline,
It doesnt look very difficult.
Scheme is basically like Turing.
Like grade 10 math based algorithms?
They try to scare you on the website saying that it's challenging but in reality, it's basically an intro to problem solving.
You'll probably only go as far as Arrays or something.

Plus its so easy to cheat in CS classes.
Just take anyone's code, change the variable naming/structure a bit. Make sure to make at least one error on purpose or just add useless lines to make it a bit less effective.

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Juiced8
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:56:54 AM

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scarboro wrote:
Looking at the course outline,
It doesnt look very difficult.
Scheme is basically like Turing.
Like grade 10 math based algorithms?
They try to scare you on the website saying that it's challenging but in reality, it's basically an intro to problem solving.
You'll probably only go as far as Arrays or something.

Plus its so easy to cheat in CS classes.
Just take anyone's code, change the variable naming/structure a bit. Make sure to make at least one error on purpose or just add useless lines to make it a bit less effective.


Id say its prob easier to cheat on assignments, which i think would in fact count for alot....but on exams if you dont know how to problem solve and code your screwed. Oh and at mcgill the intro to comp sci prof, runs all the submitted assignments through one of his programs to check for stye and code similarities. I know alot of people who got busted like this, so think twice before cheating with assignments in comp sci, or at least be clever about it.

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Shannon
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:27:21 AM
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The CS classes have changed (twice as of this fall) since I took it but I imagine the premise is more or less the same. There was one or two that were strictly programming in Java then there was one that was more actual computer science. They assume you already know how to program and you learn about some of the more theoretical stuff.



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pr
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:27:35 PM
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"They assume you already know how to program" -- no, this has never been the case. None of the first-term CS courses at UW in fall 2008 will assume this.

"Scheme is basically like Turing" -- it isn't anything like Turing. Arrays are unimportant, for example.

"Plus it's so easy to cheat in CS classes" -- UW uses plagiarism-detection software, and you can only cheat on the assignments worth 20%, which pretty much guarantees your failing the exams worth 80%.
GGG
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:39:43 PM

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i have somewhat grasp over turing program, but have never experienced Java.
I hope they teach it right from the beginning

DD
pr
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:43:47 PM
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Java is not used any more.

GGG
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:48:35 PM

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pr wrote:
Java is not used any more.

Never mind failing CS, you should worry about failing the English Language Proficiency Exam.


lol, is my English that bad?! btw, i'm enrolled at WLU side so i don't think i have to take that exam! HAHA

DD
pr
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:17:20 PM
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Reading comprehension, anyway.

But, you're right, from the WLU side you don't have to take that exam.
Shannon
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:17:24 PM
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pr wrote:
Java is not used any more.

Never mind failing CS, you should worry about failing the English Language Proficiency Exam.


Thanks for the update, I feel old now lol. What do they use instead?


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pr
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:09:04 PM
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Shannon wrote:

Thanks for the update, I feel old now lol. What do they use instead?


Scheme. Which is nothing like Turing. Or Java.
pr
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:29:45 PM
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Python after Scheme for the non-CS majors. C after Scheme for the CS majors, and those who choose to take the courses aimed at the CS majors.


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