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Is there alot of vectors in university??!!
I'm finding that I really don't like vectors. I like calculus, functions, algebra though.
I also really don't like geometry at all.
So I'm planning to go for Mathematical finance, would that involve vectors at all?
DD
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I wouldn't assume that vectors would be in your schedule if you're going for finances. I think you would have to deal with vectors if you're in engineering, computers, or physical sciences. But I'm not a university student yet, so I am not certain.
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vectors, and geometry are confusing as hell. Especially ones involving forces, work, torque, etc.
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GGG wrote:vectors, and geometry are confusing as hell. Especially ones involving forces, work, torque, etc. I find it quite funny when I see people who are generally good in math/the calculus portion of MCV4U but dislike the Vectors portion. Fact of the matter is that the Vectors portion is extremely easy, and involves no higher than grade 10 math skills/ grade 11 physics. All I can say is, practice practice practice, Once you get the stuff it's like riding a bike. Btw, what book are you guys using? We used the Geometry and Algebra book, I believe forces/torque is chapter 2?
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scarboro wrote:GGG wrote:vectors, and geometry are confusing as hell. Especially ones involving forces, work, torque, etc. I find it quite funny when I see people who are generally good in math/the calculus portion of MCV4U but dislike the Vectors portion. Fact of the matter is that the Vectors portion is extremely easy, and involves no higher than grade 10 math skills/ grade 11 physics. All I can say is, practice practice practice, Once you get the stuff it's like riding a bike. Btw, what book are you guys using? We used the Geometry and Algebra book, I believe forces/torque is chapter 2? we're using geometry and discrete.
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I retook calculus cause I thought that I would miss out if I didn't get the vectors component. Mistake  I there would be atleast some geometry + proofs + those cool circle/triagle diagrams and such (that's right. they are cool) but nooo. we get pantloads of straight lines/arrows thrown at us. bah. Most boring concept in life. but uh.. finance.. vectors. i don't see any correlation so you should be ok.
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tmhlee wrote:I retook calculus cause I thought that I would miss out if I didn't get the vectors component. Mistake I there would be atleast some geometry + proofs + those cool circle/triagle diagrams and such (that's right. they are cool) but nooo. we get lots of straight lines/arrows thrown at us. bah. Most boring concept in life. but uh.. finance.. vectors. i don't see any correlation so you should be ok. A few kids in my class who have also taken the MCB4U course said that they essentially switched up the equillibrium. In their opinion, the old geo/vectors was harder than the new vectors, whereas the new calc is harder than the old. It really does work wonders though, taking a course twice. A guy I know had 70 in the old course, 93+ in the new one.
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yeah vectors are actually a very simple concept... as is calculus now in hind sight (uni calculus... calc in high school shouldn't even be called calc lol), scarboro is right, you just gotta keep on doing them till it finally hits you and you actually realize what they mean / are for
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I hate how my teacher gives us a physics-type question that is not even in the textbook anywhere.. ...
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You will use vector form a lot in math. However drawing them and anything physics related is unlikely to come up. You'll get a bit of a crash course on matrices and vectors in MATH 136 (lin alg 1)
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Shannon wrote:You will use vector form a lot in math. However drawing them and anything physics related is unlikely to come up. You'll get a bit of a crash course on matrices and vectors in MATH 136 (lin alg 1) so would we learn about Torque, Work done, Forces in Math136? I like geometric and algaebraic vectors. I like dot/cross products. I hate physics-related units.
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GGG wrote:Shannon wrote:You will use vector form a lot in math. However drawing them and anything physics related is unlikely to come up. You'll get a bit of a crash course on matrices and vectors in MATH 136 (lin alg 1) so would we learn about Torque, Work done, Forces in Math136? I like geometric and algaebraic vectors. I like dot/cross products. I hate physics-related units. Oh no no you won't do stuff like that. You basically just need to be able to use vectors to do multivariable stuff. You'll do a bit of review in lin alg 1 and then for the rest of then you just use them. Not a big deal, as long as you understand that the vector x is made up of (x1, x2, ... xn) or whatever. It makes writing out problems MUCH easier  And the same type of stuff for matrices.
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