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Scart
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:57:23 AM
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Interesting discussion I was having the other day about a clip i saw about how natural selection is failing and we are doomed to be full of idiots.
Think about it.
If you wanna play stereotypes, it's the hillbilly family that keeps popping out tons of kids, mostly due to sheer stupidity regarding birth control. It's the intellectual couples that don't want to have kids because of their careers, or they'd rather not have to deal with children, which ends up being drawn out until the can't have any more children, if they even had any.

Now although there are lots of stupid kids running around, riding minibikes and shooting each other with bb guns, which is where natural selection would usually kick in, our health system is so good that we can keep all the idiots alive, despite whatever they do, for the most part at least.

Because of this it seems that this will continue until the intellectual population dies out completely.

Will this be the doom of mankind?
Faubert
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:13:11 AM
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Although I'm not sure if the intellectual average of americans or north americans, for that matter, is rising or falling I believe that there is a balance that will be maintained. Also your argument assumes that a world filled with intellectuals will thrive. If there is a fine line between genius and insanity and world filled with highly intellectual people can be said ride a close line to a world filled with mental patients.
And what's wrong with mini bikes and bb guns?!
stripedsheet
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:13:17 PM
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Hi... hillbilly here. We're not all dumb. And some of us like babymaking.
dingleberry
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:07:38 PM
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I don't think schooling is what makes someone smart. You may become educated, and well-spoken, but not necissarily smart. You can be a mathematician, and still be an idiot. I personally think everyone is stupid (Not to put myself higher than others). It's because as humans, we are accustomed to our own ways of thinking. I don't think anyone has the right to call anyone smart, or stupid, because it is all based on opinion, and the conventionalized view on what it is to be smart or stupid. This is one topic that can be debated for hours, and I probably contradicted myself several times, but the whole thing is that, there is no group of people who are smart or stupid. It is all based on a higher or lower calibur of the majority of people or one's own personal standing.
sepidejann
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:35:20 PM
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hi Scart
what program are you in?
i get where you are going with your question, but i wonder about your language.
Annita
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:16:07 PM
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Humanity has always been the same; there have always been "smart" people and "idiots," as you call them. I agree with the person that said that just because you are considered a genius by society, doesn't necessarily mean that you are one. For example, look at the people who are making nuclear weapons. Indeed, they are geniuses because they can make such complicated machinery, but they are idiots for thinking of using it.
Calling someone "smart" or "stupid" is a matter of opinion, and in my opinion someone smart follows a moral compass, and someone stupid does not. You don't necessarily have to be Einstein to be smart.
kskd
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:41:37 PM
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I do agree with the first posting that natural selection is failing. There are many people still around today that would not have been 100 years ago because of the improvements to our health care and our knowledge about how our bodies work. This does have its downfall, now we are passing on diseases, hereditary problems, and our own stupidity that would not have been carried on generation after generation because natural selection would have killed them off by now. There are still a few places where survival of the fittest still comes into play. I don't know how many of you know about Darwin, but you should check of the books on the Darwin awards. For those of you who have no idea what they are about, the Darwin awards are won by people who have removed themselves from the gene pool by their own stupidity. They are great if you need a good laugh , but I would suggest that no one try any of the stunts themselves.
aPoeticecondAgo.
Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:58:23 PM
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ahah! That is an interesting point - I'd never thought of that.
Basically, modern science and medical research will render the evolution of the human species irrelevant - on a physical level, anyway.
In order to operate the technology involved in such medical processes, the future human race will have to be of at least decent intelligence.
nLindsay
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:38:50 AM
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humanity is already full of idiots. case in point. no offense
mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 1:39:48 AM
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Eugenics?

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AMK
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:26:42 PM
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ya humanity will fall no matter what we do. society is just so cooped up with making excessive ammounts of money that if we don't end up physically killing everyone the environment will do it for us. i'm worried about the extreme push in blue collar jobs simply because what happens after the boom of building thats going on stops?
acook
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:37:14 PM
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this is a really deep convo...batman
sukee
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:00:41 PM
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wow, very interesting topic, but i honestly don't care, you have your smart people and dumb people, and you have your in betweens. As long as you can survive the way you are, who cares...
Humanity will be doomed eventually anywayz
MMac90
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:47:00 PM
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This is actually a really scary conversation to tell the truth...

Even the word eugenics is not good...
b123
Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:32:10 PM
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my response to the first post is this:

don't direct all your faith in intelligence towards genetic brains
you should always trust the value of education, if someone is willing to pick up a book and learn, there is nothing (especially genetics) that can stop them from being an intellectual

at the same time, someone with a high IQ and brilliant parents can still be entirely arrogant, they might even think they're better than society and complain about how theres no smart people left
mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:30:14 AM
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MMac90 wrote:
This is actually a really scary conversation to tell the truth...

Even the word eugenics is not good...


Hah. I say that jokingly.

But yeah, I agree with the above poster: intelligent people certainly aren't inherently better than non-intelligent people. If anything, intelligent people have created a lot of the evil in our world (just look at the historical supporters of eugenics).

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Sazzle17
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:31:45 AM
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That's scary, I actually had the same discussion with my friends yesterday :S
natasha022
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:40:21 AM
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Too have too many of these kids that are bred killer may kill off our society twice as fast as it is going to die without having kids and it would have a less painful ending to just have a few of the idiots already parading our ruined earth of pollution, and greed and pain. people are intelligent in their ways by choosing not to have anymore kids to bring them into a world of pain and ridicule and stereotypes and prejudice and racism and hatred and all these sickos there is nowhere to put your children to hide them from the ways of society untill you have a lot of your own money and time to make sure they receive the best in life and some cannot carry on the with the battle to have kids and satisfy a higher goal of thousands or millions more then they have and would rather use the money on themselves rather then spending it on a bunch of kids.
vanjames
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:40:14 PM
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theres nothing new under the sun. the world is full of moral, immoral, ammoral, intelligent, unintelligent and the works. the world isnt progressing in any direction
CarFanatic
Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:18:48 PM
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The Maya say the world will end on 2012 and could this be a result of the world dumbing down? Who knows even if the world is filled with intellectual people they are still going to damage the world in more ways than a hillbilly could. A hillbilly wouldn't even know two ways to screw up the world while a intellectual person can make a shopping list of ideas. if the world has a chance i say let the hillbilly have their rein of terror and when the time comes, the world is back to its prehistoric stage, the intellects can take over. If u guys agree of disagree let me know why...thks.


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