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swimstar
Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:44:04 PM
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What are some scholarships available for people who do a lot of sports, particularily swimming? How can you apply?
eco
Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:41:26 PM
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Not in Canada
bigbadsheep
Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:50:46 PM

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You might be able to get financial aid, not a full ride scholarships from some schools, but most of that money is reserved for big ticket sports like football and basketball. Look around in your community, or try to head down South.

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eco
Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:18:09 PM
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You cannot get a full ride from any school. Canadian school's don't do that.
MatthewAlexander
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:36:05 PM
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I just won my provinces provincial highschool athlete of the year award which includes a $750 scholarship.. not huge, but I guess it's considered an athletic scholarship? based on high school athletics though, not because I'm playing on a varsity team. razz

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shamrock
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:52:55 PM
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I won the Provincial High School Football Student/Athlete Scholarship of $1000. There are no Canadian Entrance University Football Scholarships, they have to be earned by the amount of time you dedicate to football (2nd year on).
bigbadsheep
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shamrock wrote:
I won the Provincial High School Football Student/Athlete Scholarship of $1000. There are no Canadian Entrance University Football Scholarships, they have to be earned by the amount of time you dedicate to football (2nd year on).


Where did you hear that?
The schools that recruited me said that they offered most of the money in the scholarship fund to players on team yes, but there is money given to some incoming players as well. A friend of mine was given $1200 by Mac once he committed and accepted.

It seems to me that the schools rank their potential recruits #1 through how much ever, and are willing to give the top 5 something if they commit and accept, and it works it's way down until the 5 awards are given out.
For example, out of #s 1-10, 1-5 will get the award, but say #1 gets a full ride to the NCAA and goes, then #2-6 get the award. If #3 decides to go to another school then 2,4-7 get the money etc etc.
^Pure speculation, but based on what I've seen, and some information by friends who have gone on to play in the OUA, The Q, and Atlantic.



Maybe one day schools up here will finally get around to joining the NCAA and giving out full rides, since Canadian schools are allowed to do that now.

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Stringer
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:33:05 PM

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bigbadsheep wrote:
shamrock wrote:
I won the Provincial High School Football Student/Athlete Scholarship of $1000. There are no Canadian Entrance University Football Scholarships, they have to be earned by the amount of time you dedicate to football (2nd year on).


Where did you hear that?
The schools that recruited me said that they offered most of the money in the scholarship fund to players on team yes, but there is money given to some incoming players as well. A friend of mine was given $1200 by Mac once he committed and accepted.

It seems to me that the schools rank their potential recruits #1 through how much ever, and are willing to give the top 5 something if they commit and accept, and it works it's way down until the 5 awards are given out.
For example, out of #s 1-10, 1-5 will get the award, but say #1 gets a full ride to the NCAA and goes, then #2-6 get the award. If #3 decides to go to another school then 2,4-7 get the money etc etc.
^Pure speculation, but based on what I've seen, and some information by friends who have gone on to play in the OUA, The Q, and Atlantic.



Maybe one day schools up here will finally get around to joining the NCAA and giving out full rides, since Canadian schools are allowed to do that now.


The only way Canadian university sports are going to be able to give full rides is if they become profitable ventures like the NCAA is. Seems unlikely, because even the few elite athletes that do come from Canada tend to go to the US anyway because of the better opportunities.

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bigbadsheep
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:35:13 PM

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It has little to do with becoming profitable. It's just not allowed at the moment by the CIS. The NCAA has agreed to let any Canadian school that wants to, to join Div. II athletics. The reason those schools are allowed to offer full rides is 1) yes the money, but most of it comes from profit sharing by the league, not the school, 2) they allow schools to offer scholarships to produce a certain level of product which makes them money. From Div III downwards where schools tend to be more academic than sport focused, scholarships aren't given.

I'm sure if schools like Western, Laurier, UBC, St. Marys etc. started giving out full rides, alot more people would stay in Canada, as opposed to going south.

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eco
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:59:12 PM
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bigbadsheep wrote:
shamrock wrote:
I won the Provincial High School Football Student/Athlete Scholarship of $1000. There are no Canadian Entrance University Football Scholarships, they have to be earned by the amount of time you dedicate to football (2nd year on).


Where did you hear that?
The schools that recruited me said that they offered most of the money in the scholarship fund to players on team yes, but there is money given to some incoming players as well. A friend of mine was given $1200 by Mac once he committed and accepted.

It seems to me that the schools rank their potential recruits #1 through how much ever, and are willing to give the top 5 something if they commit and accept, and it works it's way down until the 5 awards are given out.
For example, out of #s 1-10, 1-5 will get the award, but say #1 gets a full ride to the NCAA and goes, then #2-6 get the award. If #3 decides to go to another school then 2,4-7 get the money etc etc.
^Pure speculation, but based on what I've seen, and some information by friends who have gone on to play in the OUA, The Q, and Atlantic.



Maybe one day schools up here will finally get around to joining the NCAA and giving out full rides, since Canadian schools are allowed to do that now.


Ya, but I don't think we've entered teams yet, which means, still now athletic scholarsiphs like the states. However, even when we do enter teams, it will be in lower teirs, so they probably won't offer full scholarships.. I'd think.
Stringer
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:42:58 AM

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bigbadsheep wrote:
It has little to do with becoming profitable. It's just not allowed at the moment by the CIS. The NCAA has agreed to let any Canadian school that wants to, to join Div. II athletics. The reason those schools are allowed to offer full rides is 1) yes the money, but most of it comes from profit sharing by the league, not the school, 2) they allow schools to offer scholarships to produce a certain level of product which makes them money. From Div III downwards where schools tend to be more academic than sport focused, scholarships aren't given.

I'm sure if schools like Western, Laurier, UBC, St. Marys etc. started giving out full rides, alot more people would stay in Canada, as opposed to going south.


Schools in the USA can afford to give out so many full rides because of the huge profitability of the NCAA. Those profits simply don't exist in Canada because we don't follow collegiate sports the same way.

I think the elite athletes are always going to go south because:
1) The competition for their sport is better.
2) There are more opportunities to turn pro.
3) The education tends to be better.

-Stringer
bigbadsheep
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:23:55 PM

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eco, there are teams in Canada that are in the NAIA in which they offer scholarships. The NCAA would allow Canadian schools to enter Div. II athletics, and I know, at least for football and basketball, Div. II offers full ride scholarships. I believe it is from Div. III down where they don't offer any scholarships, only financial aid.

Stringer, if a team here joined the NCAA then all those opportunities would be present. It's a matter of how the product is marketed, up here its not marketed as heavily as in the U.S. I would have to disagree with you about education tending to be better though, as schools that are known for sports (NCAA Div.I & some IIs) tend to be less academically renowned as schools that are in the lower divisions of NCAA. There are obvious exceptions such as Stanford and Duke.

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joggler
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:40:09 PM

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Canada can offer up to $3,500 in athletic scholarships as long as you have (I think) a 80% average or above.

I also agree with bigbadsheep about how the States is generally a worse education, with a few exceptions.
worldchange
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McGill offered my friend 3,000 renewable for sports and then the academic awards on top of that
eco
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:47:23 PM
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joggler wrote:
Canada can offer up to $3,500 in athletic scholarships as long as you have (I think) a 80% average or above.

I also agree with bigbadsheep about how the States is generally a worse education, with a few exceptions.



Exactly, 3,500 is no wher close to a full ride.
skittleys
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:44:58 PM
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There are a limited number around, but you need to have a certain average to receive them. Most of the time, that average is 75+. It's not at all like the States, where you get special treatment and whatnot; up here, if you want money, you have to earn it by excelling both academically and athletically.

Talk to your guidance counsellor, or look around on this site or scholarshipscanada. If you think you might want to go to the US, Peterson's publishes a big reference guide, which you can find at a library or at Chapters/Indigo.

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bigbadsheep
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:50:11 PM

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eco wrote:
joggler wrote:
Canada can offer up to $3,500 in athletic scholarships as long as you have (I think) a 80% average or above.

I also agree with bigbadsheep about how the States is generally a worse education, with a few exceptions.



Exactly, 3,500 is no wher close to a full ride.


No one ever said full ride.


Skittleys, I don't know what you mean by special treatment, but from what I've seen and heard, at least for football, they do get special treatment. Not to the point it is in the States where they are given more academic leeway, but there are still perks to being on certain teams in Canadian universities where they get treatment that regular students don't.

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shw
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:54:31 PM
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has anyone applied for any scholarships aimed at student-athletes? I applied for the Roger Nielson/Maple Leafs Alumni award from OFSAA but haven't heard anything. Anyone have some info?


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