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Riverpeth wrote:easter wrote:dixm655 wrote:
Yeah, I'd agree that most business schools teach the same thing from the same textbook. Ivey is case-based though, that's one thing you have to remember. Another reason why you're paying more to go to Ivey is for their larger alumni base, their large career management team, the prestige of the program, career options after graduation, etc.
the problem is u'd likely be taking psychology and all other courses with students who got into western with 70s or low 80s avgs in yr 1 and 2...... to me thats kinda yuk. BMOS is kinda like York's atkinson or some unknown college program - the name BMOS isnt even internationally recognized - and its funny u talk about brock cuz the first 2 yrs at western is like going to brock... which i honestly do not want. honestly, id rather be in a class that has been selected with the brightest minds in day 1, and that is my preference. id rather be in the small classes with U style shaped seating and comfortable environment along with my peers and friends who have earned their way in and plus the whole management career team etc is only 3rd yr and 4th yr.... at schulich it's throughout yr1 to 4. how does starting year 1 put u in a program with all the "brightest minds". Do you know how inconsitant High Scool marks are? A person getting a 96 avg could go to another high school and may only be able to manage a high 80. Like I go to a catholic school, and whenver I talk t someone who transferred their from a public school, they always say how much harder the catholic school is, and how their marks have dropped. I think making everyone have to do 2 years b4 hand would weed out anyone who really shouldnt be in Ivey. its better than going to a class with students who earned 70s and 80s inb public schools, would u not agree? im also quite sure universities have a way of telling or adjusting marks
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easter wrote:Riverpeth wrote:easter wrote:dixm655 wrote:
Yeah, I'd agree that most business schools teach the same thing from the same textbook. Ivey is case-based though, that's one thing you have to remember. Another reason why you're paying more to go to Ivey is for their larger alumni base, their large career management team, the prestige of the program, career options after graduation, etc.
the problem is u'd likely be taking psychology and all other courses with students who got into western with 70s or low 80s avgs in yr 1 and 2...... to me thats kinda yuk. BMOS is kinda like York's atkinson or some unknown college program - the name BMOS isnt even internationally recognized - and its funny u talk about brock cuz the first 2 yrs at western is like going to brock... which i honestly do not want. honestly, id rather be in a class that has been selected with the brightest minds in day 1, and that is my preference. id rather be in the small classes with U style shaped seating and comfortable environment along with my peers and friends who have earned their way in and plus the whole management career team etc is only 3rd yr and 4th yr.... at schulich it's throughout yr1 to 4. how does starting year 1 put u in a program with all the "brightest minds". Do you know how inconsitant High Scool marks are? A person getting a 96 avg could go to another high school and may only be able to manage a high 80. Like I go to a catholic school, and whenver I talk t someone who transferred their from a public school, they always say how much harder the catholic school is, and how their marks have dropped. I think making everyone have to do 2 years b4 hand would weed out anyone who really shouldnt be in Ivey. its better than going to a class with students who earned 70s and 80s inb public schools, would u not agree? im also quite sure universities have a way of telling or adjusting marks Most schools do not adjust marks, and adjusting is far from an exact science. I find it amusing that you think being in a class of 90s students is different from being in a class with 70s students. How would it be different?
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easter wrote:Riverpeth wrote:easter wrote:dixm655 wrote:
Yeah, I'd agree that most business schools teach the same thing from the same textbook. Ivey is case-based though, that's one thing you have to remember. Another reason why you're paying more to go to Ivey is for their larger alumni base, their large career management team, the prestige of the program, career options after graduation, etc.
the problem is u'd likely be taking psychology and all other courses with students who got into western with 70s or low 80s avgs in yr 1 and 2...... to me thats kinda yuk. BMOS is kinda like York's atkinson or some unknown college program - the name BMOS isnt even internationally recognized - and its funny u talk about brock cuz the first 2 yrs at western is like going to brock... which i honestly do not want. honestly, id rather be in a class that has been selected with the brightest minds in day 1, and that is my preference. id rather be in the small classes with U style shaped seating and comfortable environment along with my peers and friends who have earned their way in and plus the whole management career team etc is only 3rd yr and 4th yr.... at schulich it's throughout yr1 to 4. how does starting year 1 put u in a program with all the "brightest minds". Do you know how inconsitant High Scool marks are? A person getting a 96 avg could go to another high school and may only be able to manage a high 80. Like I go to a catholic school, and whenver I talk t someone who transferred their from a public school, they always say how much harder the catholic school is, and how their marks have dropped. I think making everyone have to do 2 years b4 hand would weed out anyone who really shouldnt be in Ivey. its better than going to a class with students who earned 70s and 80s inb public schools, would u not agree? im also quite sure universities have a way of telling or adjusting marks no, not really, because you would only be with those 70's and 80's students for 2 years, after that, you REALLY ARE with the brightest minds of today, unlike schulich where you could have to spend 4 years with ppl who shouldnt be there. And ya, im not too sure about how universities view the grades of each highschool, but even so, they are bound to be a few who slip between the cracks
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besides, you never know, even you could be one of those few students whose high school made them out to be smarter than they actually are. 2 Years at western is a great idea to fix this problem, and the same formula is being used by many american business schools
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Riverpeth wrote:besides, you never know, even you could be one of those few students whose high school made them out to be smarter than they actually are. 2 Years at western is a great idea to fix this problem, and the same formula is being used by many american business schools Like where?
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Riverpeth wrote:besides, you never know, even you could be one of those few students whose high school made them out to be smarter than they actually are. 2 Years at western is a great idea to fix this problem, and the same formula is being used by many american business schools please name the american business schools that follow this formula?
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Riverpeth wrote:besides, you never know, even you could be one of those few students whose high school made them out to be smarter than they actually are. 2 Years at western is a great idea to fix this problem, and the same formula is being used by many american business schools where would that be?
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Riverpeth wrote:besides, you never know, even you could be one of those few students whose high school made them out to be smarter than they actually are. 2 Years at western is a great idea to fix this problem, and the same formula is being used by many american business schools anyways riverpath im tired and im not going to try debate ur imbecile comments anymore. all those alums are mba alums - i still yet to have hear of good hba alums making some difference in the world. i also just read ur other post and u r still trying to decide whether to do engineering or business. at the current rate u r going i think u r choosing an university for all the wrong reasons. its also real money u're dealing with - hard earned money made by ur parents. ur degree is an undergrad and i think ppl who go to ivey pay way too much for an undergrad. times have changed. besides i dont even know if u got into schulich yet (ivey sent out a lot more offers than schulich this yr). anyways, i hope u make a right choice.. have a good long weekend
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UNC kenan flagner
Rutgers
UVA
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Riverpeth wrote:UNC kenan flagner
Rutgers
UVA how about following wharton's 4 yr example, whos actually is the top school in the USA? rutgers is ranked no. 50 i believe?
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geez, u asked for examples, i gave u some examples. I wasn't trying to start any arguements, i was just trying to stop all the Ivey bashing, frig.
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i got in to mcgill commerce, ivey, shulich and queens , 96% average
and im picking ivey
why?
beucase that extra 20 000 im paying is something that i wont remember in 10 years, what i will remember is my ivey education, being a part of something that you cant put a dollar value on
you want to know why else im picking ivey?
beucase i want to. stop trying to force your beleifs on others , all of them are great schools and i choose to spend my next 4 years at one that wont bore me to death, hence the reason why i havent even considered shulich or queens (yes ive been to both campuss before)
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FatMan wrote:
i got in to mcgill commerce, ivey, shulich and queens , 96% average
and im picking ivey
why?
beucase that extra 20 000 im paying is something that i wont remember in 10 years, what i will remember is my ivey education, being a part of something that you cant put a dollar value on
you want to know why else im picking ivey?
beucase i want to. stop trying to force your beleifs on others , all of them are great schools and i choose to spend my next 4 years at one that wont bore me to death, hence the reason why i havent even considered shulich or queens (yes ive been to both campuss before)
well congrats on being accepted to all those great places, fatman. im not forcing my beliefs on others, im trying to express an opinion. it just astounds me why ppl will pay so much more
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easter wrote:FatMan wrote:easter stop beign such a friggin tool
i got in to mcgill commerce, ivey, shulich and queens , 96% average
and im picking ivey
why?
beucase that extra 20 000 im paying is something that i wont remember in 10 years, what i will remember is my ivey education, being a part of something that you cant put a dollar value on
you want to know why else im picking ivey?
beucase i want to. stop trying to force your beleifs on others , all of them are great schools and i choose to spend my next 4 years at one that wont bore me to death, hence the reason why i havent even considered shulich or queens (yes ive been to both campuss before)
so chill and i dunno go get laid or something bro well congrats on being accepted to all those great places yet being so insecure at the same time, fatman. im not forcing my beliefs on others, im trying to express an opinion. it just astounds me why ppl will pay so much more Would you pay $50,000 to go to Harvard for a year? We're talking about about $10,000 difference here. That is such a small amount in the grand scheme of things.
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easter wrote:webber3322 wrote:First of all, can someone double check if this makes sense:
30k ivey with residence - 8k bursaries - 12k OSAP - 5k tax returns (determined by OSAP) = 5k total cost
thanks,
Also, i'd rather have a top rank and easier work load in a class with average (70s or 80s highschool avg) students than an average/low rank while working my ass off with a class of bright students. no i think i have a problem with ur calculation...its a little low. http://www.registrar.uwo.ca/FinancialServices/2007_2008FeeScheduleUGRDFT.pdf first 2 yrs at western are roughly $5400 each, plus ivey which is roughly $19,800 in yr 3 and 4. Total would come to around $50,500 and this is for tuition only ON top of that u have residences, meals, food, textbooks, cases, etc. You'd prolly need $80k in total. Remember too OSAP isnt always necessarily garunteed every yr. I was actually look at just year 3 or just year 4 individually... Bursaries nd osap is given every year, right?
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Stringer wrote:easter wrote:FatMan wrote:easter stop beign such a friggin tool
i got in to mcgill commerce, ivey, shulich and queens , 96% average
and im picking ivey
why?
beucase that extra 20 000 im paying is something that i wont remember in 10 years, what i will remember is my ivey education, being a part of something that you cant put a dollar value on
you want to know why else im picking ivey?
beucase i want to. stop trying to force your beleifs on others , all of them are great schools and i choose to spend my next 4 years at one that wont bore me to death, hence the reason why i havent even considered shulich or queens (yes ive been to both campuss before)
so chill and i dunno go get laid or something bro well congrats on being accepted to all those great places yet being so insecure at the same time, fatman. im not forcing my beliefs on others, im trying to express an opinion. it just astounds me why ppl will pay so much more Would you pay $50,000 to go to Harvard for a year? We're talking about about $10,000 difference here. That is such a small amount in the grand scheme of things. exactly, in the end it wont matter at all. thug life
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Topics like this make me never, ever wanna go into business even more than I already don't want to.
This guy is like the Jehovah Witness that won't leave your living room because he/she's dead set on you dropping your own choices.
Just because you don't feel ivey is for you, in the grand scheme, the extra money required to get the degree isn't that much. If you have to wait til' the third year to get a job, it gives you motivation to want to take a third year.
I also really love how you think "useless" subjects are psychology and social sciences. If anything, they're one of the more valuable.
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Schulich is inexpensive now but last year there were rumours that the price of it would go up. Not sure if that will materialize. And also, stringer is right - a $10,000 difference is not very significant in the long run if your average salary in 5 years time will be at least $80,000. Besides, Queen's is not that "much" cheaper than Ivey... we are the 2nd most expensive program in the country (for undergrads) so not sure why u r not criticizing us as much. You definitely do have something against ivey specifically.
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Random questions. What is with all the Ivey bashing?. I mean I don't exactly see alot of threads bashing Schulich, or Queens (which there shouldn't be). All three are top notch business schools and satisfy the needs of each unique individual, no reason to put other peoples programs down right? or am I missing something here.
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PistolPete wrote:Random questions. What is with all the Ivey bashing?. I mean I don't exactly see alot of threads bashing Schulich, or Queens (which there shouldn't be). All three are top notch business schools and satisfy the needs of each unique individual, no reason to put other peoples programs down right? or am I missing something here. you're not missing anything, some people jsut seem to hold personal vendettas againt ivey, personally i agree with you - all 3 are fantastic schools and if you work hard, they'll take you where you want to go
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