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newmarket.sucks.yo
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:53:13 PM
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frodolf wrote:
tmhlee wrote:
frodolf wrote:
Go to McGill.


But you picked U of T over McGill too worry


I want you to live out my dream for me.
Because I can't.


lol
heythereb
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:07:20 PM
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Well, I can't really say anything more than I've already said in the Rez at McGill thread, but keep in mind that you've come back to McGill at least twice already. Maybe you've already picked, but can't finalize it because it'll feel like you're giving up another school that you like.

McGill Arts '12
GGG
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:08:49 PM

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how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it

~WLU/UW Business and Math Double Degree- Class of 2013~
newmarket.sucks.yo
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:11:46 PM
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GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


GGG, there are public and private ivey league school. public ones are easier to get into. (comparatively)
eco
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:13:24 PM
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tmhlee wrote:
Okay so I've been pretty set on McGill for the longest time now
(ie. since gr 9 or 10, when I realized how easy it was to get into an ivy league school. Probably just because I read/heard someone say that McG was the best ranked school in Canada, and started looking into it.)
This was before I knew anything about anything though... ie. that McGill wasn't actually the best school in the country.

Nonetheless I don't think it's a bad school, but I don't want to make my university decision based on some wandering thought I had 4 years ago. For some reason, as much as I probably will enjoy myself at McGill, I can't help but think that it's not the best option for me. (Logically anyway.) And I can't get myself to accept my offer and finalize my decision. What if I end up regretting it? Isn't going to Queen's like.. guarateed fun?

I keep getting persuaded to go somewhere by someone but I end up coming back to square one and start considering another option. Am I just getting cold feet? I can't figure out if I'm not set on a decision because I know I am not truly happy with it or I'm just being difficult/indecisive.

Can anyone help me set my mind straight? Lol. Please, please?

Options:
McGill Arts & Science (Int'l development studies/biomedical science)
McGill Science
Queen's Life Science (with Global Development Studies)
Western Biomedical Science (Scholar's Elective reject. lol.)
McMaster Life Science (BHSc alternate offer. lol.)


- I'm not really considering UWO or Mac... Brother goes to western; mac too close. (I swear I'm not bitter.) So it's really the other two schools I'm concerning myself with.

Anyway what's making it hard for me; I'm not sure if any of the below are misconceptions? but...:

McGill-
pros: Montreal, French (I want to get fluent), Int'l reputation
cons: Underfunded, general downhill trend?, lack of school spirit, half the student population commutes, expensive

Queen's-
pros: strong sense of community, general uphill trend, future student centre, know a handful of people going here already, high student satisfaction rate, getting more $ here.
cons: Small university town, current construction...'til 2014 for phase 3 of student centre?, lack of things to do?, no french


I did visit both schools on a couple of occasions. Loved Queen's campus; McGill's was okay. Loved montreal, Kingston kinda sucked..

Wow, i wrote a novel.

Suggestions? Opinions? Should I flip a coin? Where would you go?


Queen's construction of the parts most people will use should be done next year. The last stage is like, less important stuff if I remember.
Redrose27
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:32:54 PM

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GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately
heythereb
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:36:29 PM
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^ True. I know a guy who's going to Stanford next year. He's got great grades, but not that many ECs as far as I know. But he's a legacy because his parents (and grandparents?) went there.

Of course for most Canadians, especially those who have the grades to qualify, it's easier to stay in Canada and end up paying roughly 70-80 thou for 4 years of undergrad rather than 50-60 per year at an Ivy.

McGill Arts '12
newmarket.sucks.yo
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:00:31 PM
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heythereb wrote:
^ True. I know a guy who's going to Stanford next year. He's got great grades, but not that many ECs as far as I know. But he's a legacy because his parents (and grandparents?) went there.

Of course for most Canadians, especially those who have the grades to qualify, it's easier to stay in Canada and end up paying roughly 70-80 thou for 4 years of undergrad rather than 50-60 per year at an Ivy.


also, ivy leagues love IB kids. i have two friends who got into ivy leagues. one got offers from cornell, UPenn, MIT and something else and she turned down cornell and UPenn and go for computer engineering in MIT. another got accepted into Yale. He rejected Oxford in UK since Oxford is too expensive.

so go study IB lol
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:02:45 PM

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newmarket.sucks.yo wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


GGG, there are public and private ivey league school. public ones are easier to get into. (comparatively)


Only Cornell has any association with a State. They are private institutions.

-Stringer
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:03:25 PM

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Redrose27 wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately


Money? Admissions people have no clue how much money you have so how could that be a factor?

-Stringer
heythereb
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:08:10 PM
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I think she means for people applying it comes down to the money, sometimes since even with parental contributions, Financial Aid and scholarships, you still end up with major debt.

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Redrose27
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^yeah heythereb hit the nail on the head there
Stringer
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Redrose27 wrote:
^yeah heythereb hit the nail on the head there


Still, it's not easy to get into an Ivy league. The acceptance rates are well below 20% and that is of the top high school students.

-Stringer
frodolf
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:36:42 PM

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Stringer wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately


Money? Admissions people have no clue how much money you have so how could that be a factor?


They do if someone related to you donated a library to the school.

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Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:37:46 PM

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frodolf wrote:
Stringer wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately


Money? Admissions people have no clue how much money you have so how could that be a factor?


They do if someone related to you donated a library to the school.


A very small percentage of almuni ever make that kind of contribution.

-Stringer
frodolf
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Stringer wrote:
frodolf wrote:
Stringer wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately


Money? Admissions people have no clue how much money you have so how could that be a factor?


They do if someone related to you donated a library to the school.


A very small percentage of almuni ever make that kind of contribution.


Ivy leagues make half of their money from alumni donations.

University of Toronto: Engineering Science 1T2
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:48:13 PM

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frodolf wrote:
Stringer wrote:
frodolf wrote:
Stringer wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it


you just need to do reasonably well on the SATs and have the money. There are about 7 people I know who chose to write them this year or last year and all got top scores and admission to the universities they wanted. It all comes down to the money ultimately


Money? Admissions people have no clue how much money you have so how could that be a factor?


They do if someone related to you donated a library to the school.


A very small percentage of almuni ever make that kind of contribution.


Ivy leagues make half of their money from alumni donations.


Yes, but they don't screen applicants based on how much their parents donate. Plus, there are tons of kids getting admitted who have parents who never went to their school of choice.

-Stringer
tmhlee
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:20:06 PM

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GGG wrote:
how are ivy league schools easy to get into?! I dont get it

I was being sarcastic.. lol sorry. weird sense of dry humour.

But uh, yes having connections help a lot in getting admission to those schools :S
Otherwise you need to be a top top top top applicant I think.

tmhlee
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:24:25 PM

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frodolf wrote:
tmhlee wrote:
frodolf wrote:
Go to McGill.


But you picked U of T over McGill too worry


I want you to live out my dream for me.
Because I can't.


This might be the tipping point..

Ripul
Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:15:37 AM
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Go to Mcgill

I see your studying science,and speaking from an international point of view,Mcgill is the better option in comparison to queens


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