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In Term 1 English we had an essay to write about Macbeth and I received a C- (52) and worst of all the very essay was weighted 40 percent of grade of term 1. Everyone even the Japanese exchange students did tremendously better than me!
This was one of the first times I encountered the notion of in class essay and I requested from my English teacher to have more time for essays and he denied it despite the fact that I have token the phyco evaluation (an evaluation permitting for more time). Since I having prior knowledge about this phyco evaluation I then told my counselor that I need extra time for in class essays and she said she will take care of it since she checked my profile and it indeed have the phyco evaluation written and she also saw my gr.10 english mark which was a low A so indicating that a c- is an absurd mark for a student like me on essays. She said she will take care of it most probably by the means of a rewrite. Two months have passed and Term 1 report card is nearing and my mark is barely a B (I aced all other assignments and quizzes to make up for the undesired essay mark) and I checked with my counselor what she is going to do with my essay mark. Will I get a rewriter like I was promised?
She said that its nearing Report Cards and my English teacher has absolutely no time for a rewrite (despite her promise) or alternative suggestion but she did say they certainly would help me improve my essay writing. Not only did she ignore my rightful request of letting my English teacher know about my phyco evalution so I could get my deserved rewrite of the essay so I can rightfully redeem my self my correct writing performance but she delayed it so my mark was permanent and nothing could be done. I was one of the two students who didnt receive an A in this ridiculous English class which is composed of watching movies and doing movie quizes.
As you know Gr. 11 English mark is important to a degree and something like this was a serious case and could have been fixed easily due to my rightful condition but to me however it wasn't handled as fairly I thought it should have been. I believe if it was another student possibly she would treated their case much more professionally than she did with mine. It was very saddening how most of my classmates achieved a significantly higher mark even recent home stay students.
At times I get really depressed Im insignificant to my school, my rights haven't been achieved. Do you believe I can take this case to the school board? In term 2 English I got an A, but no matter what in term 3 I need to get a 97 percent or higher to maintain an A average in my grade 11. This term 1 grade should not have happened in the first place.
Please dont tell me a B in English is good, yes, I agree it is acceptable but it is only acceptable if one does his best to deserve it but my best has not been evaluated as well.
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Are you kidding me? I feel sorry for your teachers...
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I highly doubt even 30 minutes of extra time would take you from a 52% to an 80%+. You bombed an essay. GET OVER IT. Have you considered the possibility that maybe you just sucked at it? Stop blaming the situation for your own failures.
I would just be like whatever and move on...you still have like one term left and your final exam, so I'm sure your mark can increase by then.
If you're depressed over a B in English and the possibility of having an average slightly lower than an A...you need to get some life other than academics. And I say that with the utmost sincerity and concern.
I would definitely would not be around you in grade 12, and see how stressed out you will be, when you realize that THOSE grades WILL matter.
In short, forget the whole situation or you'll just be the most obnoxious, stubborn, near-sighted, unrealistic, over-obsessed freakish kid.
What are you planning on doing for Uni??
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All my other subjects Im getting a decent grade high b and low A.
This isnt me trying to grave grub for a higher grade this is my rights just being thrown out the window. I doubt that the School Board of Canada would invest their money into an evaluation that is not considered or else that would simply be a waste of tax payer money.
I do have a social life and I do have a good education life also, Im not depressed about my grade as I mentioned but rather that I felt I was not treated like I should have been .
Actually, to this day, I have Aced many essays so please do not tell me that in half of hour doesn't make a difference. Your telling me what I can't do. How about if they actually let attempted to give me my rightfully deserved extended time to see if it made a difference or not? Also I would get an extra hour and the fact that you have more time would help you feel much more confident. The satisfaction of having confidence is a key to taking tests am I correct?
And Stringer;
What message were you trying to convey? Also why do you have a picture of the German flag? Are you trying to cross out Germans are obnoxious and ignorant people who don't have the slightest ability to sympathize because surely that isn't so? I mean for the time being me reading the countless posts in the threads I see you say something negative over and over and contributing nothing whatsoever to the point of discussion.
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Volition wrote:All my other subjects Im getting a decent grade high b and low A.
This isnt me trying to grave grub for a higher grade this is my rights just being thrown out the window. I doubt that the School Board of Canada would invest their money into an evaluation that is not considered or else that would simply be a waste of tax payer money.
I do have a social life and I do have a good education life also, Im not depressed about my grade as I mentioned but rather that I felt I was not treated like I should have been .
Actually, to this day, I have Aced many essays so please do not tell me that in half of hour doesn't make a difference. First off I would get an extra hour and also the fact that you have more time would help you feel much more confident. The satisfaction of having confidence is a key to taking tests am I correct?
And Stringer;
What message were you trying to convey? Also why do you have a picture of the German flag? Are you trying to cross out Germans are obnoxious and ignorant people who don't have the slightest ability to sympathize because surely that isn't so? I mean for the time being reading the countless posts in the threads I see you say something negative and contributing nothing at all to the point of discussion. You're whining because you weren't allowed EXTRA time on your essay. What makes you so deserving of an extra hour? The fact that you're handicapped? Please. Do you think that's fair to all the other kids who are being evaluated under the same guidelines as you despite having an hour less time? You are due for a rude awakening when you enter the real world.
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If you have bothered even reading,
I have tooken an evaluation in the following years indicating positive that I need more time. I had a language speech delay so legitimately I had right to such a test. The fact is that I have not ever used my extended time ever in my life despite the reoccurring times they told me I could use it because I felt that if I'm getting semi good grade I don't need the needed advantage until this past English essay.
The Phyco evaluation is a valid evaluation across Canada, and its not some bullpoop that was just made up something that you would like to believe, Canada obviously invested in some sort of legitable evaluation addressing the needs of some students correct.
I cant believe I have to explain to you why I deserve extra time, your acting like the all-being Meine freund.
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Volition wrote:In Term 1 English we had an essay to write about Macbeth and I received a C- (52) and worst of all the very essay was weighted 40 percent of grade of term 1. Everyone even the Japanese exchange students did tremendously better than me!
This was one of the first times I encountered the notion of in class essay and I requested from my English teacher to have more time for essays and he denied it despite the fact that I have token the phyco evaluation (an evaluation permitting for more time). Since I having prior knowledge about this phyco evaluation I then told my counselor that I need extra time for in class essays and she said she will take care of it since she checked my profile and it indeed have the phyco evaluation written and she also saw my gr.10 english mark which was a low A so indicating that a c- is an absurd mark for a student like me on essays. She said she will take care of it most probably by the means of a rewrite. Two months have passed and Term 1 report card is nearing and my mark is barely a B (I aced all other assignments and quizzes to make up for the undesired essay mark) and I checked with my counselor what she is going to do with my essay mark. Will I get a rewriter like I was promised?
She said that its nearing Report Cards and my English teacher has absolutely no time for a rewrite (despite her promise) or alternative suggestion but she did say they certainly would help me improve my essay writing. Not only did she ignore my rightful request of letting my English teacher know about my phyco evalution so I could get my deserved rewrite of the essay so I can rightfully redeem my self my correct writing performance but she delayed it so my mark was permanent and nothing could be done. I was one of the two students who didnt receive an A in this ridiculous English class which is composed of watching movies and doing movie quizes.
As you know Gr. 11 English mark is important to a degree and something like this was a serious case and could have been fixed easily due to my rightful condition but to me however it wasn't handled as fairly I thought it should have been. I believe if it was another student possibly she would treated their case much more professionally than she did with mine. It was very saddening how most of my classmates achieved a significantly higher mark even recent home stay students.
At times I get really depressed Im insignificant to my school, my rights haven't been achieved. Do you believe I can take this case to the school board? In term 2 English I got an A, but no matter what in term 3 I need to get a 97 percent or higher to maintain an A average in my grade 11. This term 1 grade should not have happened in the first place.
Please dont tell me a B in English is good, yes, I agree it is acceptable but it is only acceptable if one does his best to deserve it but my best has not been evaluated as well. Okay, first off I'd like to say I'm sorry you're having a rough go of it this year, being in grade 11 myself I feel your pain. Secondly, English teachers tend to be the most fickle sort when it comes to challenging their grades. Typically, despite whether you finish or not, your teacher can determine your potential from what you do write. It might (possibly) be that the teacher thinks that's as good as the grade will get. Or perhaps she doesn't want to give preference (alot of schools in Calgary disregard the IPP or Phyco in the face of bad marks- you earned them regardless of time management issues). Ultimately though, you don't have a departmental leg to stand on during mark appeals. Also, in regards to comparing yourself to your previous year, you always have to take into account the variables- did you have an easier teacher last year? Did you do more work? Were you more active in class? I understand being frustrated by one subject (I'm terrible in maths), but don't let it mess with your headspace. If you re-do the course over the summer you should be fine (so long as the post-secondary you're considering doesn't have a clause about re-taking courses). Good luck!
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Hey JessBee,
Thanks for your reply and it makes sense. Id like to add however that I received a grade of 86 in Term 2, only difference is that we didnt have a timed essay but rather assigned essay which again I excel.
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Volition wrote:Hey JessBee,
Thanks for your reply and it makes sense. Id like to add however that I received a grade of 86 in Term 2, only difference is that we didnt have a timed essay but rather assigned essay which again I excel. Hmmm, maybe your teacher is just a frosty box then? Haha. I dunno, the AP English teachers are usually harsh about time restraints, so I dunno what it's like in normal English. I'm sure it'll work out for you though if you talk to the Humanities lead at your school.
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Stringer wrote:Are you kidding me? I feel sorry for your teachers... don't worry stringer burned me quite a few times too... 
Deciding between (accepted) 55% ivey (may 1) - better career prospects/bad study rooms + bad hours for study/bad res/ better social scene (i hear more diversity and cultural acceptance than queens?) 45% Queens Commerce (may 16) eddie hosa, goodes hall - 24/7 libary open, better study rooms/nice res 0% schulich (march 20) commute school so its 0%
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I sympathize with your situation now, and I agree that you should have been given extra time. However you would be going way overboard with the whole School board revaluation thing. I agree with Stringer - You are due for a rude awakening when you enter the real world. You can talk about 'rights' all you want, things won't always turn out in your favour regardless of whether you were right or wrong. Learn your lesson and move on, and be grateful it happened in Grade 11.
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wow.. I was going to type a lot more here, but everyone (especially Stinger) said all that already so I'll just go with this: I'm classified as a 'ESL Gifted Student' (even though my test for that was in Grade 6 I think), and in my by-term report it says that one of the things I 'need' is extra time and attention if possible. This is all great (unnecessary, but great) but... if a teacher thinks I was fine with the time limit he/she imposes, then I'll just have to go with that. In class essays are HARD for me, so I usually do ask for more time during lunch for English, and I usually get it, but I don't *expect* it, regardless of the mark I could have potentially gotten. And really... this is GRADE 11 English, don't worry about it... Grade 12 English is the only 'real' important one anyway, so suck it up  Where are you planning to go anyway?
~~~Accepted offer to Ba Honors English @ Carleton Univerity, Ottawa  ~~~
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1. The "School Board of Canada" can't do anything for you as they don't exist. The "Phyco" evaluation doesn't appear to exist either, although there may be a "Psycho" evaluation. 2. I always got lower marks on in class/exam writing too. It is different than writing something where you have less time pressure, and can look up your sources, etc. 3. While I understand that there are legitimate reasons for getting extra time, you should be requesting that in advance rather than after the fact. It's not entirely clear whether you did or not.
 
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First off its Psycho evaluation apparently, secondly I did request in advance for the extended time.
However,
If English 11 mark is not important at all then I guess I'm fine however the problem was I received injustice but if you say that its something I would get used to in uni then I guess I will.
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Volition wrote:First off its Psycho evaluation apparently, secondly I did request in advance for the extended time.
However,
If English 11 mark is not important at all then I guess I'm fine however the problem was I received injustice but if you say that its something I would get used to in uni then I guess I will.
You sure did receive "injustice". Sometimes I wonder how somebody hasn't popped the bubble some of you kids live in.
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That was not 'injustice'. Now, not being able to finish the essay because a parent died and you found out mid-class, and therefore had to leave, and then being told you couldn't finish the essay because you left the class... THAT'S an injustice. This though? Minor inconvienance at best. Suck it up, and do great in English Grade 12
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P.J. O'Rourke wrote:I've got a 10-year-old at home. She's always saying, "That's not fair." When she says this, I say, "Honey, you're cute. That's not fair. Your family is pretty well off. That's not fair. You were born in America. That's not fair. Darling, you had better pray to God that things don't start getting fair for you."
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Kaylya wrote:P.J. O'Rourke wrote:I've got a 10-year-old at home. She's always saying, "That's not fair." When she says this, I say, "Honey, you're cute. That's not fair. Your family is pretty well off. That's not fair. You were born in America. That's not fair. Darling, you had better pray to God that things don't start getting fair for you." You're my hero.
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Volition wrote:In Term 1 English[,] we had an essay to write about Macbeth and I received a C- (52). [W]orst of all [,] the [] essay was weighted 40 percent of [the] grade of term 1. Everyone, even the Japanese exchange students (racist much?), did much better than me!
This was one of the first times I encountered the notion of [an] in[-]class essay and I requested from my English teacher to have more time for essays and he denied it despite the fact that I have token the phyco evaluation (an evaluation permitting for more time). [run on sentence] Since I having [verb tense] prior knowledge about [a] phyco evaluation [as in an annual physical exam from your doctor?] I then told my counselor that I need [verb tense] extra time for in class essays and she said she will take care of it since she checked my profile and it indeed have [verb tense] the phyco evaluation written and she also saw my gr.10 english mark which was a low A so indicating that a c- is an absurd mark for a student like me on essays. [against, run on.] She said she will take care of it most probably by the means of a rewrite. Two months have passed and Term 1 report card is nearing and my mark is barely a B (I aced all [the] other assignments and quizzes to make up for the undesired [undesirable] essay mark) and I checked with my counselor what she is going to do with my essay mark. Will I get a rewriter like I was promised? [Periods and commas are your friends]
She said that its [There is a difference between its and it's, I'm sure it was addressed in grade 6] nearing Report Cards and my English teacher has absolutely no time for a rewrite (despite her promise) or alternative suggestion [assignment?] but she did say they certainly would help me improve my essay writing. [Thank the lord!] Not only did she ignore my rightful request of letting my English teacher know about my phyco evalution so I could get my deserved rewrite of the essay so I can rightfully redeem my self my correct writing performance but she delayed it so my mark was permanent and nothing could be done. I was one of the two students who didnt receive an A in this ridiculous English class which is composed of watching movies and doing movie quizes. [Run on, I've given up.]
As you know Gr. 11 English mark is important to a degree and something like this was [tense] a serious case and could have been fixed easily due to my rightful condition but to me however it wasn't handled as fairly I thought it should have been. I believe if it was another student possibly she would treated their case much more professionally than she did with mine. It was very saddening how most of my classmates achieved a significantly higher mark[,] even recent home stay students.
At times I get really depressed Im insignificant to my school [what?], my rights haven't been achieved. Do you believe I can take this case to the school board? In term 2 English I got an A, but no matter what in term 3 I need to get a 97 percent or higher to maintain an A average in my grade 11. This term 1 grade should not have happened in the first place.
Please dont tell me a B in English is good, yes, I agree it is acceptable but it is only acceptable if one does his best to deserve it but my best has not been evaluated as well. If you really want that 97 average, I suggest hiring a full time editor.
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mooncancer907 wrote:Volition wrote:In Term 1 English[,] we had an essay to write about Macbeth and I received a C- (52). [W]orst of all [,] the [] essay was weighted 40 percent of [the] grade of term 1. Everyone, even the Japanese exchange students (racist much?), did much better than me!
This was one of the first times I encountered the notion of [an] in[-]class essay and I requested from my English teacher to have more time for essays and he denied it despite the fact that I have token the phyco evaluation (an evaluation permitting for more time). [run on sentence] Since I having [verb tense] prior knowledge about [a] phyco evaluation [as in an annual physical exam from your doctor?] I then told my counselor that I need [verb tense] extra time for in class essays and she said she will take care of it since she checked my profile and it indeed have [verb tense] the phyco evaluation written and she also saw my gr.10 english mark which was a low A so indicating that a c- is an absurd mark for a student like me on essays. [against, run on.] She said she will take care of it most probably by the means of a rewrite. Two months have passed and Term 1 report card is nearing and my mark is barely a B (I aced all [the] other assignments and quizzes to make up for the undesired [undesirable] essay mark) and I checked with my counselor what she is going to do with my essay mark. Will I get a rewriter like I was promised? [Periods and commas are your friends]
She said that its [There is a difference between its and it's, I'm sure it was addressed in grade 6] nearing Report Cards and my English teacher has absolutely no time for a rewrite (despite her promise) or alternative suggestion [assignment?] but she did say they certainly would help me improve my essay writing. [Thank the lord!] Not only did she ignore my rightful request of letting my English teacher know about my phyco evalution so I could get my deserved rewrite of the essay so I can rightfully redeem my self my correct writing performance but she delayed it so my mark was permanent and nothing could be done. I was one of the two students who didnt receive an A in this ridiculous English class which is composed of watching movies and doing movie quizes. [Run on, I've given up.]
As you know Gr. 11 English mark is important to a degree and something like this was [tense] a serious case and could have been fixed easily due to my rightful condition but to me however it wasn't handled as fairly I thought it should have been. I believe if it was another student possibly she would treated their case much more professionally than she did with mine. It was very saddening how most of my classmates achieved a significantly higher mark[,] even recent home stay students.
At times I get really depressed Im insignificant to my school [what?], my rights haven't been achieved. Do you believe I can take this case to the school board? In term 2 English I got an A, but no matter what in term 3 I need to get a 97 percent or higher to maintain an A average in my grade 11. This term 1 grade should not have happened in the first place.
Please dont tell me a B in English is good, yes, I agree it is acceptable but it is only acceptable if one does his best to deserve it but my best has not been evaluated as well. If you really want that 97 average, I suggest hiring a full time editor. You're MY hero.
~~~Accepted offer to Ba Honors English @ Carleton Univerity, Ottawa ~~~
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