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So I have a conformity theory, and it goes as such:
If I go to a hard program (EngSci), I will likely be bottom of the class. As such, I will conform to my role as one of the stupider kids and slack off and skip class, therefore lowering my GPA even more until I eventually drop out of university entirely for an exciting career as a cashier at Wal-mart.
But, if I go to an easier program, let's just say Queen's, I will like be near the top of the engineering class. I will have a taste of the glory and like it, and my peers will begin to expect me to do well, therefore I will work hard to fit my role as overachiever. I will then be able to get the marks that I need to get into grad school at MIT and get all of the good NSERC positions and such.
I am not saying that EngSci is harder than other engineering programs (though it is), I am just saying that it attracts some of the brightest engineering hopefuls in the country, which I basically have no chance of competing with. If I go to a program with a lower cut-off and work really hard for a couple months, earning an an overachieving reputation, will I feel pressure to maintain this reputation, stay at the top of the class, etc (I will unconciously conform to what is expected of me) and take the necessary means to lead to me actually getting a higher GPA than I would in an equivalent program that has a higher entering average?
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if you go to engsci, then maybe the class would push you to get a higher average instead, not the other way around..
university is also about diligence and self-control
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I highly doubt you could be top of the class at Queens Eng and bottom of the class at U of T Eng Sci. Thats ridiculous. Eng Sci isn't full of gods and Queen's full of idiots.
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frodolf wrote:So I have a conformity theory, and it goes as such:
If I go to a hard program (EngSci), I will likely be bottom of the class. As such, I will conform to my role as one of the stupider kids and slack off and skip class, therefore lowering my GPA even more until I eventually drop out of university entirely for an exciting career as a cashier at Wal-mart.
But, if I go to an easier program, let's just say Queen's, I will like be near the top of the engineering class. I will have a taste of the glory and like it, and my peers will begin to expect me to do well, therefore I will work hard to fit my role as overachiever. I will then be able to get the marks that I need to get into grad school at MIT and get all of the good NSERC positions and such.
I am not saying that EngSci is harder than other engineering programs (though it is), I am just saying that it attracts some of the brightest engineering hopefuls in the country, which I basically have no chance of competing with. If I go to a program with a lower cut-off and work really hard for a couple months, earning an an overachieving reputation, will I feel pressure to maintain this reputation, stay at the top of the class, etc (I will unconciously conform to what is expected of me) and take the necessary means to lead to me actually getting a higher GPA than I would in an equivalent program that has a higher entering average? If everyone feels the same way about your theory and decides to go to a less reputable school then I guess it wouldnt really work out would it?
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I don't think that's how human psychology works usually. If you are around hard workers, I would assume you would work harder. People generally tend to "synchronize" with the people they are around. Think about the way you act around different people. Do you act the same way around your parents as you do around your friends?
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That's an interesting point of view, though.
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NEM99 wrote:I highly doubt you could be top of the class at Queens Eng and bottom of the class at U of T Eng Sci. Thats ridiculous. Eng Sci isn't full of gods and Queen's full of idiots. haha, nicely put.
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So you can't compete with the people in eng sci but you will be able to compete with people at MIT?
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Um... just pointing out that this thread has very little to do with the Stanford Prison Experiment.
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Frabbit wrote:Um... just pointing out that this thread has very little to do with the Stanford Prison Experiment. I believe the OP was trying to draw the connection that in either situation their behaviour would be influenced by their environment and status (or lack thereof).
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Lamoid wrote:So you can't compete with the people in eng sci but you will be able to compete with people at MIT? lol so true.
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