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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:alys98 wrote:There are different degrees for different reasons, and if any of them couldn't be useful, they wouldn't exist, and they wouldn't have students trying to earn them.
Let me put it into terms that some engineering students would understand.
So you have this structure right? Each piece is a vital part to the structure. If you remove one piece from the structure it will fall apart.
In other words, each area of study, whether it be, Science, Business, Arts, Engineering, Math, Fine Arts, etc provide society's 'structure.' Remove one piece of the structure...and the rest of it would be useless.
Does this make sense? You're thinking into it too much. The question wasn't "which faculty is the most important in our advanced society today?"; it was "which is the best faculty?" End of. Besides, if the faculties were such a structure, science (including math) and engineering would be the foundation, business would be the building itself, and the arts and social sciences would be like the spires at the top that are there solely for the purpose of decoration (and may, in some cases, serve a function). Lol. Way to soften the blow
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Sure Engineering is interesting. Physics is math with a purpose, but try finding a job as an engineer???
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precious wrote:Sure Engineering is interesting. Physics is math with a purpose, but try finding a job as an engineer??? Are you kidding? ... am i wrong or are engineers not always on demand?
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precious wrote:Sure Engineering is interesting. Physics is math with a purpose, but try finding a job as an engineer??? ...Are you serious? I know an engineering degree is one of the most in demand degrees to have these days. As long as you're not a complete tool and have some social skills you're almost guaranteed a job.
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I might be wrong, but I know countless people who regret going into engineering because the work is not stable. Their positions are usually temporary, excepting those few that are able to work for the government. Anyway guys, I might be wrong. Also i heard it is very difficult to get your "professional engineering" qualification after you do your Bachelors. i just googleed it up and it seems that there is a high demand for engineers but there are also so many of them that are unemployed???
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precious wrote:I might be wrong, but I know countless people who regret going into engineering because the work is not stable. Their positions are usually temporary, excepting those few that are able to work for the government. Anyway guys, I might be wrong. Also i heard it is very difficult to get your "professional engineering" qualification after you do your Bachelors. i just googleed it up and it seems that there is a high demand for engineers but there are also so many of them that are unemployed??? My parents are engineers so I know where you're coming from. Yes, some jobs are unstable, quite a few engineers that I know of work solely contracts that can last anywhere from under a month to a couple of years and have almost non-existant benefits. That being said, there are many stable, well-paying jobs available with the government and with private companies. And yes, "Professional Engineer" status can be quite difficult to attain if you graduate with only a bachelor's or if you're an immigrant.
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Best faculty clearly = Arts. Who cares if it isn't the most useful? I'll find a job somewhere.
Honestly, I probably would go into engineering, but I'm terrible at science...
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thekrakenlord wrote:Best faculty clearly = Arts. Who cares if it isn't the most useful? I'll find a job somewhere.
Honestly, I probably would go into engineering, but I'm terrible at science... So cleary the best 
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Isn't it funny that engineers aren't even aware of the constructs that have dictated their lives to them, and they make fun of those who are actually aware of what is going on in the world and working to break down those institutions and ideas that dictate how they live their lives. In short, they laugh at the people who try to set them free.
Now to answer the original question, there is no overall 'best faculty' because each faculty is equally important. I am partial to interdisciplinary, and heavily biased in that manner, but through interdisciplinary study you begin to see the big picture. Rather than specializing in psychology or economics or politics, interdisciplinary studies looks at all of these, and in order to graduate, you obviously have to pass your classes, which requires you to understand each discipline. From there you can work with the economists and the politicians, understanding where each is coming from and together work toward a solution. Obviously this is coming from a development perspective, but I challenge you to come up with something that development does not encompass.
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Oh dear......the bashing never ends for Liberal Arts students. Fine Arts is fantastic; the importance of visual and creative imput in every person's day to day life is so sadly unnoticed and underrated. It's such a myth that artists are freaks. How come nobody mentioned Music as a useless faculty? Musicians are so venerated now....it's because nobody ever hears about a famous rich artist who is still alive and kicking these days (after the age of Andy Warhol anyways).
I wonder if I'll get bashed if I put UWO Visual Arts on my sig like the rest of the people who declare their majors =S
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guys, most of us are kidding. This is in the school spirit section of an internet forum for a reason.
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NEM99 wrote:YEAH!!!!! ENG RULES!!!!
We work hard and play even harder!
worst is obviously arts. Lets get real here.
...music? Art history? Get a real job! AFM at Waterloo is part of the Arts faculty.
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Bassoony wrote:I could launch into some great long explanation about why music is the heart of mankind and all that junk, but I'm not drunk or high right now, so I got nothin'. Just keep in mind that if you build a really super-fancy theatre, you need people to perform in it. If you build a centre for treating X terminal disease, chances are pretty good it'll be planned to include some kind of music therapy area. If you're trying to impress your boss so you can move into a slightly bigger cubicle (maybe one day you'll have one near a window!), you might invite him to dinner and allow him to admire the print of a Matisse painting hanging over your mantle before you serve him a meal on your best china (hand-painted, and made in a tradition that has been alive for centuries) with the soothing sounds of Mozart or light jazz in the background. Or maybe you'll take him out to a ballet and allow the music of Tchaikovsky and the brilliant moves of the highly trained dances win him over. Afterwards, you'll go home and watch your favourite movie on TV.. and I'm not even going to list all of the "arts kids" who were involved in the production, advertising, and creating of that.
"which is best?? I rock because I go here and blah blah blah LOVE ME" threads make me angry. Hey man, no disrespect or anything but we don't live in the 17th century anymore. There are a few people left in the world who truly appreciate Art. I appreciate it to a certain extent.
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mcgillguy88 wrote:anniepoohh wrote:Redrose27 wrote:you could say the same thing for math. without math at it's core engineering wouldn't be a discipline. you could say that math is even more fundamental then. darn right!! math rules the world!! Yes but mathematicians can often hinder rather than help development. The Heaviside step-function was used by engineers for decades before mathematicians considered it 'respectable' and put it on a formal footing. Oh no, I am such a nerd. I love using the Heaviside step-function. I find it fun.
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Bassoony wrote:mcgillguy88 wrote:Bassoony wrote:They're clearly really good at what they do, I have no idea and can't bring myself to care if they know what they're talking about or not, but it's just not "high art". Not to say it doesn't have entertainment value for many, many people... but yeah. I'm a snob, basically. So ... what's your point? ...wait, we have to have a POINT to post on this thread? Well gosh-darn it all, I thought we were all just putting each other down for fun! Let's put each other up! That's fun to me. Okay that was really dumb, but still I think it's better than putting each other down. In conclusion, Arts is better than Engineering which is better than Science which is better than Math which is better than Arts which is better than Engineering which is better than Science which is better than Math. Therefore each faculty is better than the other. Peace. 
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Malinka wrote:Isn't it funny that engineers aren't even aware of the constructs that have dictated their lives to them, and they make fun of those who are actually aware of what is going on in the world and working to break down those institutions and ideas that dictate how they live their lives. In short, they laugh at the people who try to set them free.
Now to answer the original question, there is no overall 'best faculty' because each faculty is equally important. I am partial to interdisciplinary, and heavily biased in that manner, but through interdisciplinary study you begin to see the big picture. Rather than specializing in psychology or economics or politics, interdisciplinary studies looks at all of these, and in order to graduate, you obviously have to pass your classes, which requires you to understand each discipline. From there you can work with the economists and the politicians, understanding where each is coming from and together work toward a solution. Obviously this is coming from a development perspective, but I challenge you to come up with something that development does not encompass. Oh you mean like elementary school? Where we learn everything? Yeah, apparently specialisation has proved to be more efficient in this world. Which is why I think that every faculty is important.
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OK, fine, let's ignore all of the things I mentioned that are culturally soooo obsolete. You watch TV? Thank an "artist". You listen to music? Even if the band wasn't "formally" trained, they still probably had some education, and I can guarantee their production team did. Like to go shopping? Someone with some artistic background designed the clothes you buy.
Open your minds. Please. You don't see me bashing YOUR field, do you? I appreciate that someone designs a world that I can live so luxuriously in, I'm greatful for it! All I ask is that people have a little tolerance for the people who want to make that world a little more beautiful.
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aai_nhl wrote:mcgillguy88 wrote:anniepoohh wrote:Redrose27 wrote:you could say the same thing for math. without math at it's core engineering wouldn't be a discipline. you could say that math is even more fundamental then. darn right!! math rules the world!! Yes but mathematicians can often hinder rather than help development. The Heaviside step-function was used by engineers for decades before mathematicians considered it 'respectable' and put it on a formal footing. Oh no, I am such a nerd. I love using the Heaviside step-function. I find it fun. How the hell can that be fun? Get real. I like math but never once have I described using some function as "fun"
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aai_nhl wrote:Malinka wrote:Isn't it funny that engineers aren't even aware of the constructs that have dictated their lives to them, and they make fun of those who are actually aware of what is going on in the world and working to break down those institutions and ideas that dictate how they live their lives. In short, they laugh at the people who try to set them free.
Now to answer the original question, there is no overall 'best faculty' because each faculty is equally important. I am partial to interdisciplinary, and heavily biased in that manner, but through interdisciplinary study you begin to see the big picture. Rather than specializing in psychology or economics or politics, interdisciplinary studies looks at all of these, and in order to graduate, you obviously have to pass your classes, which requires you to understand each discipline. From there you can work with the economists and the politicians, understanding where each is coming from and together work toward a solution. Obviously this is coming from a development perspective, but I challenge you to come up with something that development does not encompass. Oh you mean like elementary school? Where we learn everything? Yeah, apparently specialization has proved to be more efficient in this world. Which is why I think that every faculty is important. I am not against specialization at all. The world would be a worse place without it. However, people are so specialized in their respective areas that they can't work effectively together. This is one of the biggest problems in development and aid. For example, an engineer may built a bridge over a river, and they may be excellent at doing that, but not understand why the whole community is protesting it. They're building them a bridge for crying out loud! But what they don't understand is all the other impacts this bridge has on the community. Perhaps the community on the other side of the river have been rivals for centuries. Maybe the bridge needs upkeep that the community cannot afford, etc. I know this is a pretty bad example, but stuff like this happens time and time again.
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Malinka wrote:aai_nhl wrote:Malinka wrote:Isn't it funny that engineers aren't even aware of the constructs that have dictated their lives to them, and they make fun of those who are actually aware of what is going on in the world and working to break down those institutions and ideas that dictate how they live their lives. In short, they laugh at the people who try to set them free.
Now to answer the original question, there is no overall 'best faculty' because each faculty is equally important. I am partial to interdisciplinary, and heavily biased in that manner, but through interdisciplinary study you begin to see the big picture. Rather than specializing in psychology or economics or politics, interdisciplinary studies looks at all of these, and in order to graduate, you obviously have to pass your classes, which requires you to understand each discipline. From there you can work with the economists and the politicians, understanding where each is coming from and together work toward a solution. Obviously this is coming from a development perspective, but I challenge you to come up with something that development does not encompass. Oh you mean like elementary school? Where we learn everything? Yeah, apparently specialization has proved to be more efficient in this world. Which is why I think that every faculty is important. I am not against specialization at all. The world would be a worse place without it. However, people are so specialized in their respective areas that they can't work effectively together. This is one of the biggest problems in development and aid. For example, an engineer may built a bridge over a river, and they may be excellent at doing that, but not understand why the whole community is protesting it. They're building them a bridge for crying out loud! But what they don't understand is all the other impacts this bridge has on the community. Perhaps the community on the other side of the river have been rivals for centuries. Maybe the bridge needs upkeep that the community cannot afford, etc. I know this is a pretty bad example, but stuff like this happens time and time again. What training does one need to assess the impact on a community of building a bridge?
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