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beccaaa wrote:Stringer wrote:It should be determined 100% by a vote of the graduating class. They are picking somebody to represent them at their graduation. Marks, involvement, etc. should have no bearing at all. Totally agree. Second that.I don't want some bull poop speech made by some hardcore nerd making outlandish statements about the 'doors that will open as we enter university or how we will reminisce and stuff'. I want some well liked kid to just go up there and talk for 2-3 minutes max about the good times.
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I don't want the valedictorian to just go up there and wing it for a 20 minute speech though...
cuz i know that's what the most popular kids in my school would def. do...
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scarboro wrote:beccaaa wrote:Stringer wrote:It should be determined 100% by a vote of the graduating class. They are picking somebody to represent them at their graduation. Marks, involvement, etc. should have no bearing at all. Totally agree. Second that.I don't want some bull poop speech made by some hardcore nerd making outlandish statements about the 'doors that will open as we enter university or how we will reminisce and stuff'. I want some well liked kid to just go up there and talk for 2-3 minutes max about the good times. And I agree with this as well.
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We just got our 'voting ballots'.
It's basically a popularity contest,
you get to pick 3 nominees (can be anyone),
then the top three campaign and again it's a student vote.
I voted for my good friend and cheating partner.
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scarboro wrote:We just got our 'voting ballots'.
It's basically a popularity contest,
you get to pick 3 nominees (can be anyone),
then the top three campaign and again it's a student vote.
I voted for my good friend and cheating partner. I regret not cheating in high school. So much easier than in university.
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why would you even need to cheat?
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Redrose27 wrote:why would you even need to cheat? To avoid studying.Also, Since there are two Chem classes and most hard tests are multiple choice, Whichever class writes it first steals a copy for the second class which 'surprisingly' ends up getting very high 90s. Our class average is 70% and on the last test the test average was 85+ (he knew we cheated). Im only getting 88 atm :< but the highest mark is a 91 so w.e Cheating is not as bad as most people think, I personally did not try it until grade 12 when I realized that I could do nothing in class and cheat to get a 90. I became sick and tired of watching others get the same mark as me without any studying/doing homework and decided to join the party. Stringer wrote:
I regret not cheating in high school. So much easier than in university.
We'll see about that 
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Wow, lots of people who don't want "some nerd" doing it.
Well, at my school it is based completely on academics. The students have no say at all. And I have to say, I like it that way, because if it was a popular contest, then I wouldn't be valedictorian.
A note to all the people thinking it should be a popularity contest. Just because we have a 98% average, it doesn't mean we can't make a speech or fit in with people. Some of us CHOOSE not to be social butterflies because we just don't like it. Try being a bit more open minded before you bash the nerds in your school.
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scarboro wrote:Stringer wrote:
I regret not cheating in high school. So much easier than in university.
We'll see about that You'll find out that it truly is SO much more difficult to cheat in university. There will be several exam codes (different forms of the same exam---different orders of questions, so Q#3 for you will be like Q#27 for the person in front of you), plenty of proctors constantly walking through the aisles, they make you sign your name (and show your student card to make sure you are who you say you are) and indicate where it was exactly that you were sitting, you sit in single desks usually with no one directly beside you, and the scantron technology has cheater detection software. Not to mention the consequences of cheating are much more severe than in high school; yeah, it isn't worth the risk. That being said, I overheard some guy talking about his cheating strategy in HS, and I'll tell you it is pretty clever. His cheating partner would study hardcore for one exam, and he would study hardcore for another. For the one his cheating partner studied for, the cheating partner would sit ahead of him and eat skittles. They would both do the scantron questions first. Starting at question 1, the cheating partner would pick out and eat a skittle of a certain colour---each colour matching up with a certain choice (A, B, C, D, or E). He would only eat one skittle per question so the guy knew which question he was on. In the exam that the guy was studying for, they would do the same thing, this time with the cheating partner sitting behind the guy (and the guy doing the skittles eating). Pretty clever, but these guys would be f'ucked if they used that strategy in university (if they're even allowed to eat during the exam). If they somehow managed to get the same exam code, the cheater detection system would likely pick up on there little activity (unless if they sat so far away from one another that it would seem impossible to cheat off one another).
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KeilanS wrote:Wow, lots of people who don't want "some nerd" doing it.
Well, at my school it is based completely on academics. The students have no say at all. And I have to say, I like it that way, because if it was a popular contest, then I wouldn't be valedictorian.
A note to all the people thinking it should be a popularity contest. Just because we have a 98% average, it doesn't mean we can't make a speech or fit in with people. Some of us CHOOSE not to be social butterflies because we just don't like it. Try being a bit more open minded before you bash the nerds in your school. Who's bashing "nerds"? I'm simply saying that the Valedictorian's job is to represent the graduating class. Having the highest average really has no bearing on one's ability to do that job. Who better than the graduating class to determine who best represents them? Who better than the graduating class to determine who they want to hear speak at graduation?
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Haha, but it's funny that a lot of the time the person who people vote for, vote for them just because they think they're popular, not because they actually like the person. The "popular" people at my school are actually not that well liked. Kind of strange but that's how it works.
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in my school, its the top 4 people with the highest averages get nominated, and then students vote out of those four people. We vote tomorrow. I was nominated. It really doesn't help that one of the other people nominated was the most popular guy in the school (also the smartest guy in the school), and he's in my first period class tomorrow. We do the voting in first period. Did i mention the class is made up entirely of his friends? Its physics, with about 30 guys and 4 girls (including me). Oh joy. Not that its a contest for us this year. We know who's going to win. The cards just fell that way.  Oh well, looks like i won't have to worry about writing that speech!
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:scarboro wrote:Stringer wrote:
I regret not cheating in high school. So much easier than in university.
We'll see about that You'll find out that it truly is SO much more difficult to cheat in university. There will be several exam codes (different forms of the same exam---different orders of questions, so Q#3 for you will be like Q#27 for the person in front of you), plenty of proctors constantly walking through the aisles, they make you sign your name (and show your student card to make sure you are who you say you are) and indicate where it was exactly that you were sitting, you sit in single desks usually with no one directly beside you, and the scantron technology has cheater detection software. Not to mention the consequences of cheating are much more severe than in high school; yeah, it isn't worth the risk. That being said, I overheard some guy talking about his cheating strategy in HS, and I'll tell you it is pretty clever. His cheating partner would study hardcore for one exam, and he would study hardcore for another. For the one his cheating partner studied for, the cheating partner would sit ahead of him and eat skittles. They would both do the scantron questions first. Starting at question 1, the cheating partner would pick out and eat a skittle of a certain colour---each colour matching up with a certain choice (A, B, C, D, or E). He would only eat one skittle per question so the guy knew which question he was on. In the exam that the guy was studying for, they would do the same thing, this time with the cheating partner sitting behind the guy (and the guy doing the skittles eating). Pretty clever, but these guys would be f'ucked if they used that strategy in university (if they're even allowed to eat during the exam). If they somehow managed to get the same exam code, the cheater detection system would likely pick up on there little activity (unless if they sat so far away from one another that it would seem impossible to cheat off one another). Absolutely BRILLIANT.
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filledejanvier wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:scarboro wrote:Stringer wrote:
I regret not cheating in high school. So much easier than in university.
We'll see about that You'll find out that it truly is SO much more difficult to cheat in university. There will be several exam codes (different forms of the same exam---different orders of questions, so Q#3 for you will be like Q#27 for the person in front of you), plenty of proctors constantly walking through the aisles, they make you sign your name (and show your student card to make sure you are who you say you are) and indicate where it was exactly that you were sitting, you sit in single desks usually with no one directly beside you, and the scantron technology has cheater detection software. Not to mention the consequences of cheating are much more severe than in high school; yeah, it isn't worth the risk. That being said, I overheard some guy talking about his cheating strategy in HS, and I'll tell you it is pretty clever. His cheating partner would study hardcore for one exam, and he would study hardcore for another. For the one his cheating partner studied for, the cheating partner would sit ahead of him and eat skittles. They would both do the scantron questions first. Starting at question 1, the cheating partner would pick out and eat a skittle of a certain colour---each colour matching up with a certain choice (A, B, C, D, or E). He would only eat one skittle per question so the guy knew which question he was on. In the exam that the guy was studying for, they would do the same thing, this time with the cheating partner sitting behind the guy (and the guy doing the skittles eating). Pretty clever, but these guys would be f'ucked if they used that strategy in university (if they're even allowed to eat during the exam). If they somehow managed to get the same exam code, the cheater detection system would likely pick up on there little activity (unless if they sat so far away from one another that it would seem impossible to cheat off one another). Absolutely BRILLIANT. I'm tempted to use that. Too bad the only person in my class worth cheating with i don't know well enough to ask. 
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what about if you want to skip a question? like if you don't know how to answer #4 and then decide to come back to it later, how'd you do it that way?
the way people cheat at my school is much easier. they just speak to each other in chinese (say like 1 c, 2 d) etc. really quietly (always sit at the back) and if the teacher asks they say they were asking for them to pick up a pencil they dropped and everyone agrees. it's like a group effort of like six or seven of them. the worst part is that they get away with it since the teachers can't really say they don't believe them. (lol except for one teacher who is on to it and basically says that if anyone needs to ask for something to say it loudly in ENGLISH haha)
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we've got escorts to go to the bathroom too in hs.
i don't know i just don't think the risks of cheating are worth it (in addition to the obvious moral reasons not to cheat).
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Redrose27 wrote:we've got escorts to go to the bathroom too in hs. Wow. Hardcore.
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you mean other schools don't have this?
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Not the HS I went to. Apparently not Stringer's HS either.
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Redrose27 wrote:we've got escorts to go to the bathroom too in hs.
i don't know i just don't think the risks of cheating are worth it (in addition to the obvious moral reasons not to cheat). Who escorts people? For final exams I suppose there are escorts but who would do it for all the tests before that?
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