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Oracle
Posted: March 10, 2010 12:45:01 PM
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As you can see in my signature, I have applied and been accepted to Western (Kings campus). Basically, Western has three affiliates...they promote smaller class sizes, more interaction with profs, more scholarships and a tighter community.

I am strongly considering Kings because they have offered me a large scholarship (about $20,000 over four years) and I have spoken to a few of the professors at Kings recently and they have been really nice and helpful. They seem like they would really go out of their way to help their students. one prof actually called me and spoke to me about my choices for an hour.

That being said, while I would get a degree from Western, it will have "Kings University College" beside it.

Do you think this will hurt me in any way in the future? My goals are to either go to grad school or law school... A good one in the US or Canada.

Thanks

University of Western Ontario 2014
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qwertqwert
Posted: March 10, 2010 12:48:16 PM

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Yes. People with that on their degree are barred from pursuing any further education. Also they must sew yellow stars onto their shirts and walk on the curb.

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pinkchair
Posted: March 10, 2010 1:36:04 PM
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^lol^

Oracle, you've been around for so long and seen this question asked a million times. If you want to go to Kings, go there, do well and your future will be fine! You've already got a head start on the networking smile

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dofer49
Posted: March 10, 2010 1:49:58 PM

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And in another thread, you said that there is no difference between the degrees.

Now here's the thing, remember that even though you are at king's, you can still go to main campus, you can still participate in main events, you and your friends are not limited to just King's

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HopefulUniGirl
Posted: March 10, 2010 2:17:36 PM

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Oracle
Posted: March 10, 2010 3:43:09 PM
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dofer49 wrote:
And in another thread, you said that there is no difference between the degrees.

Now here's the thing, remember that even though you are at king's, you can still go to main campus, you can still participate in main events, you and your friends are not limited to just King's


I'm not asking about going to main and participating in events.

I know that my degree will look like:

"University of Western Ontario (Kings University College)"

I don't want the "college" part to be misinterpreted or make employers/grad schools/law schools (especially those who aren't aware of Western's affiliates) to look down upon what's in the brackets...

If that makes sense.

University of Western Ontario 2014
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kelsiii
Posted: March 10, 2010 3:52:04 PM
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Everyone's heard of Western (at least in Ontario), and I'm pretty sure employers and other schools would recognize that your degree says UNIVERSITY of western ontario on it.

If you want to go to King's, just go with your gut.

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Oracle
Posted: March 10, 2010 3:59:50 PM
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kelsiii wrote:
Everyone's heard of Western (at least in Ontario), and I'm pretty sure employers and other schools would recognize that your degree says UNIVERSITY of western ontario on it.

If you want to go to King's, just go with your gut.


Yeah, I know that everyone's heard of Western - but maybe not the affiliate colleges. And I think that the term 'college' may be misinterpreted and have a negative effect on my degree.

Also, I'm getting tired of explaining to everyone what King's/affiliate college is =/

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hisse
Posted: March 10, 2010 4:09:57 PM

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Within Canada, the UK and US the university college system is fairly common among larger universities so I doubt that you would find someone who would frown upon the designation. Basically the way you would look at it is:
Canada : I think just about every major employer would be familiar with western
US: The terms University and College are interchangeable anyways and some of the most prestigious universities have the same setups
UK: The university college style used in Canada is based of that of several universities in the uk so it would be familiar

So really prestige wouldn't be damaged by it, but for grad school it doesn't matter anyways, most major schools will be sure to be at least familiar with the school from where their applicant is coming from, it's not like they just look at the name and go "That sounds like a terrible school".


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HopefulUniGirl
Posted: March 10, 2010 4:57:16 PM

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hisse wrote:
Within Canada, the UK and US the university college system is fairly common among larger universities so I doubt that you would find someone who would frown upon the designation. Basically the way you would look at it is:
Canada : I think just about every major employer would be familiar with western
US: The terms University and College are interchangeable anyways and some of the most prestigious universities have the same setups
UK: The university college style used in Canada is based of that of several universities in the uk so it would be familiar

So really prestige wouldn't be damaged by it, but for grad school it doesn't matter anyways, most major schools will be sure to be at least familiar with the school from where their applicant is coming from, it's not like they just look at the name and go "That sounds like a terrible school".

those are some really good points, esp for the US and UK. Admission officers in Canada would know. The only thing is the employers

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Keile
Posted: March 10, 2010 5:03:52 PM
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Oracle wrote:
kelsiii wrote:
Everyone's heard of Western (at least in Ontario), and I'm pretty sure employers and other schools would recognize that your degree says UNIVERSITY of western ontario on it.

If you want to go to King's, just go with your gut.


Yeah, I know that everyone's heard of Western - but maybe not the affiliate colleges. And I think that the term 'college' may be misinterpreted and have a negative effect on my degree.

Also, I'm getting tired of explaining to everyone what King's/affiliate college is =/


Such a designation will not hinder your chances at law or medical school admissions. This redundant question would've been much more easily solved through a decent amount of research into the subject before posting. Medical and law schools do not discriminate against Canadian institutions. That some Canadian institutions do not have placement on the very top US law school matriculation lists is most probably due to the fact that the amount of exceptional students graduating from places like Brock and Ryerson is lesser in number than at a more selective university.

King's College next to Western Ontario will mean next to nothing to 98% of US law and medical schools, who know next to nothing about Canada in the first place.
zara
Posted: March 10, 2010 10:35:25 PM
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Hey i am also looking into kings. I don't think that will look bad on a degree, remember many universities use the college system. For example all UofT certificates list the college, i think. By the way what scholarship did you get, am still waiting to hear back for the one i applied too worry
treehugger
Posted: March 11, 2010 12:21:04 AM
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I had the exact same dilemma, and ultimately decided against applying. Reading what everyone wrote here, though, I may be regretting it. My aunt went to Huron and loved it. And the scholarship you mentioned is impressive. Oh well, what's done is done.

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Posted: March 25, 2010 7:03:43 PM

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What would happen if you went to Kings for the first 3 years to get the whole small-class size experience and such, but then transferred into western to graduate? Would you get the diploma that just says Western?

Of course, I agree with the others; it probably won't matter, and if it does you can just explain it to any employers that may wonder. They may even see this as a bonus, so... No worries.
obesechicken13
Posted: May 13, 2010 11:48:17 PM
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Wait... so your concern is that you will have too many references, and that your school will be too easy so your grades will be much higher when applying to graduate school. Yep sounds like a real problem.

I think people in UofT are worried that their grades will be too low to go to grad school. Prestige doesn't do anything. And I am ignorant about why you think you can't just send a letter explaining it, if it somehow is a concern... which it isn't.
kraken.
Posted: May 14, 2010 4:17:58 PM

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nice bump. this is from two months ago.

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dyd
Posted: May 14, 2010 4:57:54 PM

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Oracle wrote:
As you can see in my signature, I have applied and been accepted to Western (Kings campus). Basically, Western has three affiliates...they promote smaller class sizes, more interaction with profs, more scholarships and a tighter community.

I am strongly considering Kings because they have offered me a large scholarship (about $20,000 over four years) and I have spoken to a few of the professors at Kings recently and they have been really nice and helpful. They seem like they would really go out of their way to help their students. one prof actually called me and spoke to me about my choices for an hour.

That being said, while I would get a degree from Western, it will have "Kings University College" beside it.

Do you think this will hurt me in any way in the future? My goals are to either go to grad school or law school... A good one in the US or Canada.

Thanks


yes.

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Posted: May 14, 2010 5:03:53 PM

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People should seriously consider if grad school is right for them before they apply/start it. A lot of people drop out before they finish the program.

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