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ederoo wrote:Again, why would you spend your last summer at Shad Valley if there are other things you could be doing?
1. You've already applied to universities so Shad Valley wouldn't be that helpful
2. I highly doubt employers care if you went to Shad Valley, or even know what the program is.
3. Who said you had to work at McDonalds? Even if you DID have to work at a retail job I'd still do it over Shad Valley because I'd be earning money instead of spending it on Shad Valley, and I would also be able to put the work experience on my resume as well as any other skills you may have acquired through your summer job.
4. As Illuminar stated, if you're a top high school student, there are other programs you can attend.
5. As Oracle stated, if you're going away for university, why would you want to spend your last summer away from home? 1. You seem to forget that getting into university is only half the battle. You know how you have to have good work habits and know how to work in teams and get leadership experience and get a background in many different fields? Shad Valley accelerates x 100 2. List of employers with Shad Alumni as interns last year: * Aliant Inc. * Bantrel (Calgary location) * Bell Mobility * Boehringer Ingelheim (Canada) Ltée, Recherche et développement * Canadian Pacific Railway * Christie Digital Systems Inc. * Citizens Bank of Canada * ConocoPhillips Canada * Courtyard Group * EnCana Corporation * Énergie NB Power * Ericsson Communications Inc. * ESQ at the University of Waterloo * GE Commercial Finance * George Kelk Corporation * Government of Newfoundland and Labrador * Hatch Associates * Hydro-Québec * IBM Canada Limited * IBM Ottawa Software Lab (in partnership with OCE Inc.) * Imaging Dynamics * Jacques Whitford Ltd. * Manitoba Hydro * Maplesoft * Mariner Partners Inc. * McElhanney Land Surveys Ltd. * Memorial University of Newfoundland * NEAT/Northern Environmental Action Team * NOVA Chemicals Corporation * OCE Inc. * Ontario Power Generation * PQA Software Testing * Production Services Network Canada Inc. * Province of New Brunswick Department of Education * RBC Financial Group * Redknee Inc. * Research In Motion Limited * School District #06 (New Brunswick) * School District #10 (New Brunswick) * School District #14 (New Brunswick) * School District #15 (New Brunswick) * School District #17 (New Brunswick) * Sentex Communications * Sierra Wireless * Simon Fraser University, Department of Business * Simon Fraser University, Department of Engineering & Computer Science * SNC-Lavalin Inc. * Stantec Inc. * Syncrude Canada Ltd. * Talisman Energy Inc. * Teck Cominco Limited * Thunder Bay Testing and Engineering * TD Bank Financial Group * The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company * ViXS Systems * York Catholic District School Board DAYYYYYUUUMM. Also, add where Shads have gone that have knowledge of the caliber of people that Shads are. Argument disproved. 3. Let me tell you how my last summer went. July 2009 - Shad Valley Lakehead 2009 August 2009 - Intern though Shad Valley Paid employment. Oh, and you can get scholarships. So wait, I earned skills through a summer job AND Shad Valley? Too good to be true...oh wait. 4. MIT lists Shad Valley as a recommended program to attend before going to MIT. 5. You know you come back for a month, right? I know people who did that; no problems whatsoever. The real experience of Shad isn't something that can be told - it can only be experienced. So, cool story bro.
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Razor210 wrote:
1. You seem to forget that getting into university is only half the battle. You know how you have to have good work habits and know how to work in teams and get leadership experience and get a background in many different fields? Shad Valley accelerates x 100
2. List of employers with Shad Alumni as interns last year:
* Aliant Inc.
* Bantrel (Calgary location)
* Bell Mobility
* Boehringer Ingelheim (Canada) Ltée, Recherche et développement
* Canadian Pacific Railway
* Christie Digital Systems Inc.
* Citizens Bank of Canada
* ConocoPhillips Canada
* Courtyard Group
* EnCana Corporation
* Énergie NB Power
* Ericsson Communications Inc.
* ESQ at the University of Waterloo
* GE Commercial Finance
* George Kelk Corporation
* Government of Newfoundland and Labrador
* Hatch Associates
* Hydro-Québec
* IBM Canada Limited
* IBM Ottawa Software Lab (in partnership with OCE Inc.)
* Imaging Dynamics
* Jacques Whitford Ltd.
* Manitoba Hydro
* Maplesoft
* Mariner Partners Inc.
* McElhanney Land Surveys Ltd.
* Memorial University of Newfoundland
* NEAT/Northern Environmental Action Team
* NOVA Chemicals Corporation
* OCE Inc.
* Ontario Power Generation
* PQA Software Testing
* Production Services Network Canada Inc.
* Province of New Brunswick Department of Education
* RBC Financial Group
* Redknee Inc.
* Research In Motion Limited
* School District #06 (New Brunswick)
* School District #10 (New Brunswick)
* School District #14 (New Brunswick)
* School District #15 (New Brunswick)
* School District #17 (New Brunswick)
* Sentex Communications
* Sierra Wireless
* Simon Fraser University, Department of Business
* Simon Fraser University, Department of Engineering & Computer Science
* SNC-Lavalin Inc.
* Stantec Inc.
* Syncrude Canada Ltd.
* Talisman Energy Inc.
* Teck Cominco Limited
* Thunder Bay Testing and Engineering
* TD Bank Financial Group
* The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company
* ViXS Systems
* York Catholic District School Board
DAYYYYYUUUMM. Also, add where Shads have gone that have knowledge of the caliber of people that Shads are. Argument disproved.
3. Let me tell you how my last summer went.
July 2009 - Shad Valley Lakehead 2009
August 2009 - Intern though Shad Valley
Paid employment. Oh, and you can get scholarships. So wait, I earned skills through a summer job AND Shad Valley? Too good to be true...oh wait.
4. MIT lists Shad Valley as a recommended program to attend before going to MIT.
5. You know you come back for a month, right? I know people who did that; no problems whatsoever.
The real experience of Shad isn't something that can be told - it can only be experienced. So, cool story bro.
Sorry, I have to respond to this. There are only two Canadian institutions that bother me for being considered "elite" - Schulich (which is left for other threads) and Shad. 1. I can't really answer to this, but I went to an intense summer program after my junior year. I'll remember it FAR more for the social aspect than the technical, and from speaking to almost every other summer program participant ever, it's pretty much the same thing. lol at the thought of Shad conferring some incredible academic advantage. 2. DAYYYYUMMM 5 New Brunswick school districts. That list looks like ANY engineering program. Again, if you're looking to build a network there are super legit programs in the States. The one I mentioned is obscure and yet alumni are politicians (including a former world bank president), investment bankers, lawyers, professors, philosophers like Francis Fukuyama and Allan Bloom, a former Stanford law dean, etc. etc. Sometimes the strongest alumni networks aren't in the most obvious places. 3. Fair enough. meh. 4. LOL. How many Shad students actually get into MIT? What are their odds compared to kids who go to the Math Olympiad training camp, Chemistry Olympiad, Physics Olympiad, Bio Olympiad, RSI, Clark's Scholars, SSP, TASP, or any other number of programs that are much more exclusive? If you're really talented there are far better options than Shad, and if you're not then you're probably not getting into MIT anyway. 5. Again, yeah I guess. If you're in Grade 11 the month isn't a big deal, I wouldn't want to lose it after graduating though.
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forschooling wrote:
I applied for this year. I am waiting for my letter to come. I am very excited, because my friend went who is going again this year. I am just really anxious. I really want that letter to come in the post any day now.
wtf? ive never heard of anyone going twice in a row o.0 i remember the staff saying that they dont let you.. shad is like those once in a lifetime things strawbow wrote:I'm going to Shad too! I'm thinking of UBC, Queens, Dal, or Mac...
And to add to this Shad or not debate, I personally think if you have the chance, you should take it. You're probably going to learn and gain something valuable there. Anyways, I'm really excited for June 27th!
most people love it at UBC cause its so pretty. and from what ive heard its the campus where you get a lot of free time to yourself. apparently they only had like 8 lectures in the whole month. this was 2008. on the flipside, i went to queen's and we had intense 14hr schedules weekdays which caused most people to fall asleep during lectures.
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@ederoo and Illuminar
Everyone who has been to Shad will tell you that it is about the experience you get. Spending a month at a university the summer after Grade 12 is more beneficial than you think. You get to interact with professors and befriend Program Assistants who are already in universities. Unlike many other summer programs, Shad in most campuses is designed to simulate university life. The stress is there, but there's nothing to lose even if you don't handle it well. Like the Shad website says, the program is about self-discovery. It's definitely better to find out about your shortcomings there than in September when university life really starts.
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are there any other enrichment programs such as shad in existence? shads deadline already passed +(
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Illuminar wrote:Razor210 wrote:
1. You seem to forget that getting into university is only half the battle. You know how you have to have good work habits and know how to work in teams and get leadership experience and get a background in many different fields? Shad Valley accelerates x 100
2. List of employers with Shad Alumni as interns last year:
* Aliant Inc.
* Bantrel (Calgary location)
* Bell Mobility
* Boehringer Ingelheim (Canada) Ltée, Recherche et développement
* Canadian Pacific Railway
* Christie Digital Systems Inc.
* Citizens Bank of Canada
* ConocoPhillips Canada
* Courtyard Group
* EnCana Corporation
* Énergie NB Power
* Ericsson Communications Inc.
* ESQ at the University of Waterloo
* GE Commercial Finance
* George Kelk Corporation
* Government of Newfoundland and Labrador
* Hatch Associates
* Hydro-Québec
* IBM Canada Limited
* IBM Ottawa Software Lab (in partnership with OCE Inc.)
* Imaging Dynamics
* Jacques Whitford Ltd.
* Manitoba Hydro
* Maplesoft
* Mariner Partners Inc.
* McElhanney Land Surveys Ltd.
* Memorial University of Newfoundland
* NEAT/Northern Environmental Action Team
* NOVA Chemicals Corporation
* OCE Inc.
* Ontario Power Generation
* PQA Software Testing
* Production Services Network Canada Inc.
* Province of New Brunswick Department of Education
* RBC Financial Group
* Redknee Inc.
* Research In Motion Limited
* School District #06 (New Brunswick)
* School District #10 (New Brunswick)
* School District #14 (New Brunswick)
* School District #15 (New Brunswick)
* School District #17 (New Brunswick)
* Sentex Communications
* Sierra Wireless
* Simon Fraser University, Department of Business
* Simon Fraser University, Department of Engineering & Computer Science
* SNC-Lavalin Inc.
* Stantec Inc.
* Syncrude Canada Ltd.
* Talisman Energy Inc.
* Teck Cominco Limited
* Thunder Bay Testing and Engineering
* TD Bank Financial Group
* The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company
* ViXS Systems
* York Catholic District School Board
DAYYYYYUUUMM. Also, add where Shads have gone that have knowledge of the caliber of people that Shads are. Argument disproved.
3. Let me tell you how my last summer went.
July 2009 - Shad Valley Lakehead 2009
August 2009 - Intern though Shad Valley
Paid employment. Oh, and you can get scholarships. So wait, I earned skills through a summer job AND Shad Valley? Too good to be true...oh wait.
4. MIT lists Shad Valley as a recommended program to attend before going to MIT.
5. You know you come back for a month, right? I know people who did that; no problems whatsoever.
The real experience of Shad isn't something that can be told - it can only be experienced. So, cool story bro.
Sorry, I have to respond to this. There are only two Canadian institutions that bother me for being considered "elite" - Schulich (which is left for other threads) and Shad. 1. I can't really answer to this, but I went to an intense summer program after my junior year. I'll remember it FAR more for the social aspect than the technical, and from speaking to almost every other summer program participant ever, it's pretty much the same thing. lol at the thought of Shad conferring some incredible academic advantage. 2. DAYYYYUMMM 5 New Brunswick school districts. That list looks like ANY engineering program. Again, if you're looking to build a network there are super legit programs in the States. The one I mentioned is obscure and yet alumni are politicians (including a former world bank president), investment bankers, lawyers, professors, philosophers like Francis Fukuyama and Allan Bloom, a former Stanford law dean, etc. etc. Sometimes the strongest alumni networks aren't in the most obvious places. 3. Fair enough. meh. 4. LOL. How many Shad students actually get into MIT? What are their odds compared to kids who go to the Math Olympiad training camp, Chemistry Olympiad, Physics Olympiad, Bio Olympiad, RSI, Clark's Scholars, SSP, TASP, or any other number of programs that are much more exclusive? If you're really talented there are far better options than Shad, and if you're not then you're probably not getting into MIT anyway. 5. Again, yeah I guess. If you're in Grade 11 the month isn't a big deal, I wouldn't want to lose it after graduating though. I have to say, that opening comment sounds like "hating for the sake of hating". It's like people who rag on Halo/Call of Duty for being popular. 1. True, the social aspect is much more memorable than all the technical stuff. Doesn't mean it doesn't help academically. 2. Realistically, the only way you could get a spot at any of those companies is through co-op in university (as a teenager). In high school, there's nothing else in Canada that provides opportunities like this. And going to the States would be way more expensive than Shad, and considering that most Canadians do their post-secondary education in Canada, well, going to the US isn't the most logical place to go. Also, nice try to discredit the list by focusing on a school board. 3. hm. 4. MIT Recommended ProgramsWell, I don't see any Olympiad stuff there, so we'll focus on the second half of your list then. Are those programs you listed top-notch? Yes. Is your only reason for saying that they're better is "they're more exclusive?" Yes. Both of us couldn't argue why one is better than the other, so there's no point in trying to derail and say "well, these other ones exist, so shad must be useless". Oh, and saying that those who are Shads are somehow "not talented enough to get into MIT" is baseless and stupid. 5. Well, most people do go in Grade 11, if that says anything. Might as well get the advantage while applying for university.
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Justaboi wrote:Oracle wrote:
I agree with this 100%. People are complaining about not being able to pay for university and then, during the summer of their senior year, they pay to do this =/ Makes no sense.
They are great in terms of financial aid if you apply + scholarships + they give you opps to fundraise! ( I got a $2k grant from them). Everyone who went to Shad said over and over how it was their best experience so far, not to mention the great alumni events/mentorship opp/networks they seem to be engaged in right now. You can't talk about something unless you've experienced it, and from what so many people told me (who attended) they thought it was the best thing that they ever engaged in. I am extremely excited to attend and I believe it's an excellent opportunity that everyone should consider. What? 2k in financial aid or scholarship? Soo good. So you haven't been? I got in too, I feel like it's going to be really fun and whatnot but there's something else I really want to do this summer as well and I'm in gr10 so i cuold always go next year... If you say no this year, is that going to hurt your application next year?
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ehathiew, why would you go to Shad Valley for self discovery? Save yourself an entire summer and just smoke some drugs if that's your goal.
Razor210: How do you know Illuminar is listing those programs only because they're "more exclusive"? How do you know they don't offer more than Shad does? Also, he never said students that go to Shad aren't talented enough to get into MIT. He stated that if you're good enough to get into MIT, there would be much better programs to attend.
The difficulty of getting into Shad is probably the same as solving a level 3 Sudoku puzzle.
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SO NERVOUS!! I haven't heard from them yet .
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@ederoo
What can you possibly discover about yourself by taking drugs? The simulated university life is to see how well you can fit into the environment. You only learn more about yourself through experience, and Shad Valley provides that.
@mratta
If you are in Grade 10, Deep River Science Academy might be an option.
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ehathiew wrote:@ederoo
What can you possibly discover about yourself by taking drugs? The simulated university life is to see how well you can fit into the environment. You only learn more about yourself through experience, and Shad Valley provides that.
@mratta
If you are in Grade 10, Deep River Science Academy might be an option. hahahha an obvious virgin
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Justaboi wrote:[quote=Oracle]
They are great in terms of financial aid if you apply + scholarships + they give you opps to fundraise! ( I got a $2k grant from them).
Everyone who went to Shad said over and over how it was their best experience so far, not to mention the great alumni events/mentorship opp/networks they seem to be engaged in right now. You can't talk about something unless you've experienced it, and from what so many people told me (who attended) they thought it was the best thing that they ever engaged in. I am extremely excited to attend and I believe it's an excellent opportunity that everyone should consider. Hey, I was just wondering if you got $2grand bursaries or schlorships? Cause I actually got a Shad valley acceptance too for this year but I'm not sure if the money they offered me is for bursary or schlorships or both. Do you know if further money will come after the acceptance letter or is everything offered along with the letter? Thanks.
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Hello!
I got my letter yesterday confirming that I was accepted with a bursary! I was wondering if there's a major difference between the ten universities in the program itself. Since my first language is french, I thought Laval would be better for me. However, it seems they didn't do well at the ''RBC Entrepreneurship Cup'' in the past years, so now I hesitate if I should'nt go to an anglophone university. Is the performance of the different universities at the competition really reflecting the strenght of their program? Which campus will you choose and why?
Congratulations to everyone that will attend Shad Valley!
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MacShad 09 alumni here. Just like to say congrats to all that got in! It's definitely an accomplishment!  @ narfcois: A francophone or anglophone campus has absolutely nothing to do with the degree of success you experience in the RBC Cup. As part of the team that placed first nationally, I think that it was the amount of effort put in by every single member that was key to us winning. And to help you in picking campuses, I would highly suggest McMaster simply because I believe that it has the best program across the country (a lot of off campus activities and the best staff ever) But that's just my bias since I went there.  To be completely honest though, I really believe that it shouldn't matter where you go. Wherever you go, what you put into enjoying the program is what you will get back. Its kind of like a, "no deposit, no return," idea. @ ederoo: Don't make assumptions about a program you haven't attended especially a program where nearly every alumni comes out after the month saying, "it was an experience of a lifetime." Not many summer programs like that out there. To all those that were accepted, I'm SO pumped for you guys! Have an amazing time this summer! 
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TT___TT; I just got my rejection letter today....
When will waiting lists be sent out? Or is it sent along with rejection letters?
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Hey Guys! I got the offer last week!... and I just discovered this forum. : I will be studying life science/health science in university, and I just want to know will Shad provide big benefits to high school students like me? Also I can't decide which campus to choose right now. Any suggestions? A quick question: Does the campus effect what you will be doing during the program?
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And to Minime22, I'm really sorry to hear that  . Maybe try to apply again next year :）
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rantbysong wrote:I received a letter telling me that I'd be on the waiting list.
Does anyone know if there are any chances that I'll get in despite being on the waiting list? It depends where you are on the list. Your best chances of getting in are after the first deadline because some people decide not to go after getting their acceptance letter. After that it is possible to get in, but not likely. If you want, you can email cheryl (cheryl@shad.ca) to ask where you are on the waiting list. I was on the list last year and my advice to you is if you don't get in in the next month or two, start making other plans. Good Luck!
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Minime22 wrote:TT___TT; I just got my rejection letter today....
When will waiting lists be sent out? Or is it sent along with rejection letters? That's too bad Minime22 If you got on the waiting list they would have sent you a letter saying so, not a rejection letter. Definitely try again next year if you can.
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ye1302 wrote:Hey Guys! I got the offer last week!... and I just discovered this forum. : I will be studying life science/health science in university, and I just want to know will Shad provide big benefits to high school students like me? Also I can't decide which campus to choose right now. Any suggestions? A quick question: Does the campus effect what you will be doing during the program? If you are planning on going into life sciences/health sciences, I would recommend going to McMaster as the university is known for the quality of their health sci program. It will also give you the opportunity to see the campus and help you decide which university you might like to go too. Yes, the campus does somewhat affect what you do during the month. At McMaster, a lot of great off campus activities were planned. Like many have said already, UBC is pretty slack, and from what I heard, Waterloo and Queens placed more emphasis on the project than the campus I went too. Other than that though, I don't know enough about the other campuses to tell you about them.
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