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I think that scholarships should award more money for students because tuition fee has gone up immensely. This will help pay off many things for post secondary education.
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I wish they would... lol But actually, I don't think they should. For two reasons that I can think of at the moment: -- It's not like the people who run scholarship programs HAVE to give money away. They are doing it as an 'extra' thing to help students, not as a mandatory thing. And they are giving money away for free... they should give how ever much they want! -- Sure, maybe if they had enough money they could give away one really big scholarship. But lots of companies (or whatever) don't have that much money to give away. Plus, personally I'd rather get a smaller scholarship and have 9 other people also receive a smaller scholarship. It's more even that way. Then more people can win. -- When more people can win, requirements are not quite as steep. If all scholarships were really huge, they'd require really amazing winners, and so I wouldn't get any money  lol Okay so that's three reasons. Oh well.  Anyone else have any thoughts? <3 Lucy
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I agree with you Lucy. And, so many Scholarships/Bursaries are never picked up or not used; which is a big shame.... Sites like this benefit the people who wish to work hard and get an education and apply... And as Lucy said, with her last point; the more that are less, usually the more people the major company is willing to help - with little or no requirements. Also, I'd rather see small amounts of money to each person, this way more people can be benefited. The more help there is, the better for us. Take advantage of as many as you can.
[[Anna / Cookie ]] GO GENS GO!!!!
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Employers and scholarship organizations are under no commitment to give us any money whatsoever, so be thankful for the money you get and stop complaining that it's not enough.
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I think I disagree with the above comments. This is in line with my outrage at the abolishment of Millenium Scholarship, to be replaced by a bursary program.
I'd rather have a small chance at getting a free year or two of uni, then a better chance of getting a couple grand.
As one of you said, with these tuition rates, a couple grand doesn't seem like a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.
On the topic of Millenium, what are they thinking with that? Why not just inject that money into the provincial bursary programs, saving setup and data collection costs (probably a good chunk of the total money).
Further, they're killing the biggest (by far) merit based award program. Merit based awards motivate kids, and also are a great reward for those who deserve it. I think its wrong to kill it.
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Hm... good points, eco. I understand wanting to be able to pay for an entire year or so at a time, and that a couple grand doesn't seem like a lot. But a couple grand can be a lot... about $2000 can pay for food for a year at uni, which is pretty good. And even if 2G's doesn't take a huge bite out of the overall expense... that's 2G less you have to borrow. And loans (even student ones) can add up interest really fast so I think 2G free money ends up saving you a lot, if you don't have to borrow and pay interest on that. I don't know... I agree it would be nice to get big scholarships, and there are a few out there (I applied for bourse de la francophonie, $20G!) but overall I'm just happy somebody actually wants to give me money at all.  I also don't like that they've replaced Millenium with the bursary program either. I don't think I qualify for the bursury. <3 Lucy
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At the same time however, you must remember that the individuals who are receiving the merit-based scholarships are almost never suffering financially. The unfortunate individuals who need money the most are likely to be distracted by other commitments (jobs, etc.) than to be striving academically. So really, moving money from merit-based scholarships to bursaries does help more people on the whole.
Another way to consider it is this:
Person A: -"exceptional student" wins merit scholarship
- later attends university/college
Had Person A not won the scholarship, he/she would still attend university/college.
Person B: -receives bursary necessary to finance education
-later attends university/college
Had Person B not received bursary, he/she would not attend university/college
So, it's easy to see that Person B needs the money more.
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Frabbit wrote:At the same time however, you must remember that the individuals who are receiving the merit-based scholarships are almost never suffering financially. The unfortunate individuals who need money the most are likely to be distracted by other commitments (jobs, etc.) than to be striving academically. So really, moving money from merit-based scholarships to bursaries does help more people on the whole.
Another way to consider it is this:
Person A: -"exceptional student" wins merit scholarship
- later attends university/college
Had Person A not won the scholarship, he/she would still attend university/college.
Person B: -receives bursary necessary to finance education
-later attends university/college
Had Person B not received bursary, he/she would not attend university/college
So, it's easy to see that Person B needs the money more. well what if you have Person C: - great student, lots of ECs - middle of the road financially - but they're too 'wealthy' to be considered for these bursaries but at the same time their parents don't have enough income to pay for their schooling either (mortgage, car, medical, other payments, etc.) so they get screwed, and i'd say that many, if not most, would fall into the C category. there are so many options for people who are not doing well financially to get help---schools all have guarantees, be it loans or work study programs or other sorts of things. A student who is exceptional should get incentive to work harder, and that's what merit scholarships are for
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I honestly don't believe Person C exists. If they know that they are not financially sufficient enough to fund schooling, they should be more concerned with acquiring a job to earn money than to aim for scholarships. Of course I'm not saying it's black and white but most students that are "great student[s], lots of ECs" are financially stable enough to take a loan or work to pay off schooling.
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Frabbit wrote:I honestly don't believe Person C exists. If they know that they are not financially sufficient enough to fund schooling, they should be more concerned with acquiring a job to earn money than to aim for scholarships. Of course I'm not saying it's black and white but most students that are "great student[s], lots of ECs" are financially stable enough to take a loan or work to pay off schooling. couldn't you say the same about the person from the lower income bracket, that they shouldn't aim for scholarships and instead should work? what if they already work, but still wouldn't have enough money? The assumption for giving middle class students less than lower income students is that the lower income family is assumed not to be able to help their child out financially. However, i know more than just a few middle class income people whose parents wouldn't be able to help them out more than a low income family would, due to a combination of other costs (again, mortgage, repairs, medical, etc.) or perhaps even an unwillingness in the parent to give money. i'm not saying bursaries shouldn't exist; by all means they should. what i'm saying is that when they take away one of the few remaining scholarships based solely on merit to focus on needs-based awards, that just takes away from an already diminishing pool of opportunity for the middle class kids who aren't rich enough to have their parents pay for school but are at the same time too rich for any government assistance.
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Frabbit wrote:At the same time however, you must remember that the individuals who are receiving the merit-based scholarships are almost never suffering financially. The unfortunate individuals who need money the most are likely to be distracted by other commitments (jobs, etc.) than to be striving academically. So really, moving money from merit-based scholarships to bursaries does help more people on the whole.
Another way to consider it is this:
Person A: -"exceptional student" wins merit scholarship
- later attends university/college
Had Person A not won the scholarship, he/she would still attend university/college.
Person B: -receives bursary necessary to finance education
-later attends university/college
Had Person B not received bursary, he/she would not attend university/college
So, it's easy to see that Person B needs the money more. Does this make sense to anyone? People who take the initiative to do the things that entitle them to merit awards usually need the money more right? They know they need it, so they work hard, rather than rich kids who can (not saying all do) get lazy about that. Also, these people deserve the help more, and are more likely to stay in school, and later help their communities, than the "B" people. Right?
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Frabbit wrote:I honestly don't believe Person C exists. If they know that they are not financially sufficient enough to fund schooling, they should be more concerned with acquiring a job to earn money than to aim for scholarships. Of course I'm not saying it's black and white but most students that are "great student[s], lots of ECs" are financially stable enough to take a loan or work to pay off schooling. People can be active in their schools and communities while holding down a part time job. These are the "person A"s that need this money. I have met many
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I definitely wouldn't have a problem if scholarships gave out more money. Life in general is getting more and more expensive.
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Brint wrote:Life in general is getting more and more expensive. Inflation have anything to do with that? I think so. Salaries and wages are also higher as a result. So in all, I don't know if you can say that life is more 'expensive'.
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