Are suicide-related delays really that common?

I've used the TTC frequently for the last 4 years, and I can remember only one instance when everyone had to clear off of the train because someone jumped on the tracks.

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McGill Arts '12

Hey guys,

One of the girls that graduated from my high school last year just came home from McGill last week. She just finished her first year in Science. I am going to meet with her tonight at around 8pm.

I still have to pick a rez, so those are going to be the basis of my questions!

Anyone have any questions for a person fresh out of first-year science @ McGill you want me to ask??

In seoul they have glass panels from floor to ceiling so that there are less suicide attempts, haha. The doors open only when the train/subway comes.

mark833,
could you ask her about the competitiveness? How bad the bell-curving is.. and maybe thoughts on some of the good profs/courses to take?
And rezs too. Which one she was in and which one she would've liked better and stuff
(Upper rez, Douglas, Dio&Prez, MORE Houses and New Rez... might as well add solin, greenbriar, and how her friends in those residences liked it.)

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Decision's been made.
Ima join you people at McGill.

If people are going to suicide, please do it in your own time and do it in a little corner where no one gives a rat's ass. If you're going to die, then friggin' die. Don't disrupt other people's lives because you're emo about living in Canada and not in South Africa. Seriously...

i am ditching douglas.
MOLSON IS THE BEST! *quoted from facebook* lol

Username: CONGRATS!



I'm glad you will be joining us! And we can make fun of the waterloo kids now. haha

newmarket.. ditching douglas? That brendan won you over didn't he. hahah
Everyone I've been asking has been suggesting MORE. Which is what I've wanted from the start. I think I might just do that.
Or Dio.
Molson.. I will be sucked in way too easily to the parties until the point of no return.
But it is still ranked like 3rd. haha.

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Hey everyone!

Well I'm still deciding between Queens and McGill. I already accepted Queens (have until June 4 to withdraw acceptance to avoid the deposit) and I have not accepted McGill (I will on Sunday if I decide to go there). I'm going to check out the campuses again this weekend. I'm debating between Mcgill Arts and Science and Queens Science. McGill's program is small 9alothough you don't feel it because you're a lurker in both arts and science faculties) and flexible. I do not exactly like the idea of studying vast areas of arts and science until upper years. For this reason, if I wnet to McGill, I may consider switching into the science or arts faculty in 3rd year to pursue a more focussed route. However, people are telling me that going to McGill with the intentiion of switching faculties in 3rd year, is a bad idea. They say might as well go to Queens (under faculty of arts and science) and avoid the whole transfer process. Also, I've heard McGill's arts and science faculties are VERY tough. McGill gives me a BaSc, while at Queens I would get a BA or BSc. Does the BaSc give me any advantage of getting into grad school. Also, others have told me McGill would be easier than Queens because its more bredth then depth and so its an easier route. Is this true - because there is more content.

I love the McGill campus because it was urban and enclosed - seemed like a little city. I also want to become fluent in French. Queens campus was okay. I did not like that the buildings were all scatterred. Kingston SUCKED (my opinion lol...maybe I didnt see all of it). Also, it wasn't very diverse.

Another reason I'm still considering Queens is that the school is generally very accomodating and "take care" of first years in adjsuting to university life in course selections (SOAR prgram), peer mediation, and orientation week (which is very well-known at Queens). McGill is intimidating and I don't know how supportive/helpful of an environment it is for first-years.

Well thats it! You probably can see that I am VERY confused. I have one week. Help me make the decision - McGill or Queens - its funny because they have the biggest rivalry ;)

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Arts and Science McGill University 2012

Definitely true about the rivalry - they're both good schools and they're sort of each other's "level" so that's why people probably have a hard time deciding between them.

I'm not going to make up stuff about McGill's Arts & Sci, and Queen's Sci because I have very little knowledge of either of those programs.

However - regarding toughness, I would say they're on the same level. There are a lot of factors going into this, however - for ex, Queen's undergraduate body is a lot smaller than McGill, so by that logic, (first year) classes will probably be smaller, thus it's easier to get some facetime with the prof and less people to compete with. McGill is also in Montreal, which can be a big distraction (but that really depends on how strong-willed you are) so it's easier to not put in your best work in order to free up your time sooner, ie lower grades.

But a big plus for McGill is that it's in a fairly large city - so if you're wanting to do research outside of school, or have more opportunities to volunteer, or more internships with orgs in Montreal, Montreal's a better bet.

Also like you mentioned - if French is something you're seriously about being fluent in, and not just in a "well, I guess I'll pick some up if I go to McGill" kind of way, then Montreal is definitely the place for that! The good thing about it, is that the majority of the population is also English-speaking if you have to get your bearings, but if you put your mind to it (ie speak french in stores and restaurants) then it becomes easier to grasp (especially since you have 4 years of undergrad in which to master it).

Let me stress how important knowing another language will be once you graduate (and/or begin looking for a job). What do you have in common with people who graduate from Queen's Sci and McGill's Art&Sci? You all have the same degree (and in more cases than not) similar research/intern experiences. That makes it difficult for an employer to discern a difference between hundreds of people applying for one coveted job. (Keep in mind that if you're applying to a job with hundreds of other McGill Art&Sci students that a lot them either speak French or another language aside from English). I don't know what your end goal is (after grad school), (I think tmhlee is planning to do something with public health and is doing Arts&Sci next year) and if your goal is fairly similar to hers, then a second language is a must. So if you're looking to do to gov't work or NGO work in Africa (where french is the official language in many countries) can you imagine what a step-up you'll have over people who speak only one language?

Sorry for the awkward rambling - but knowing french can become invaluable depending which line of work you chose to do. Obviously for office jobs, it's good, but nothing you'll use often. but if you want a career with IGOs or NGOs (think Stephen Lewis) then knowing french will get your foot in the door.

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McGill Arts '12

No, it's not a bad choice. Both are fine faculties and you'll do fine anywhere if you work hard. Best of luck and congrats on your choice.

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BAH '08 (Queen's) MA'11 (Queen's)