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Wow I definitely didn't help my application then! I dont know why, but I thought McMaster liked to see involvement, cooperation, leadership, independent learning, etc, backed up by extracurriculars. Oh well, too late to change my application now..
Out of curiosity, how did everyone interpret the last question on the supplementary application? Several people at my school applied to the program, and they had vastly different responses..some interpreted it as a question regarding applicants, others as a "taboo" question, or as a philosophical problem. Was it vague on purpose, to see if you thought outside of the box?
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EastofEden wrote:Wow I definitely didn't help my application then! I dont know why, but I thought McMaster liked to see involvement, cooperation, leadership, independent learning, etc, backed up by extracurriculars. Oh well, too late to change my application now..
Out of curiosity, how did everyone interpret the last question on the supplementary application? Several people at my school applied to the program, and they had vastly different responses..some interpreted it as a question regarding applicants, others as a "taboo" question, or as a philosophical problem. Was it vague on purpose, to see if you thought outside of the box?
It's obviously vague on purpose. And as many have said before, there is no right or wrong answer. You could have answered that a specific question is never to be asked, or that there are no questions that should never be asked. One could have written that question "A" should never be asked, another one could have written that everything EXCEPT question "A" should never be asked and they both might get a score of 7, depending on their arguments.
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EastofEden wrote:Wow I definitely didn't help my application then! I dont know why, but I thought McMaster liked to see involvement, cooperation, leadership, independent learning, etc, backed up by extracurriculars. Oh well, too late to change my application now..
Out of curiosity, how did everyone interpret the last question on the supplementary application? Several people at my school applied to the program, and they had vastly different responses..some interpreted it as a question regarding applicants, others as a "taboo" question, or as a philosophical problem. Was it vague on purpose, to see if you thought outside of the box?
I wrote that the question that should not be asked... is exactly that. I basically had a heart attack after I realized everyone else wrote the exact same answer. Anyways, I think what matters is how you express yourself and the reasoning you put into your answer.
McMaster Bachelor of Health Sciences (Honours) '12
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tinycities wrote:EastofEden wrote:Wow I definitely didn't help my application then! I dont know why, but I thought McMaster liked to see involvement, cooperation, leadership, independent learning, etc, backed up by extracurriculars. Oh well, too late to change my application now..
Out of curiosity, how did everyone interpret the last question on the supplementary application? Several people at my school applied to the program, and they had vastly different responses..some interpreted it as a question regarding applicants, others as a "taboo" question, or as a philosophical problem. Was it vague on purpose, to see if you thought outside of the box?
I wrote that the question that should not be asked... is exactly that. I basically had a heart attack after I realized everyone else wrote the exact same answer. Anyways, I think what matters is how you express yourself and the reasoning you put into your answer. I kinda wish I wrote that down. >< I actually wrote something completely different. I said that in the science persepective, no one questions shouldn't be asked. And then a went into a little bit of moral stuff - with how one should remain objective in situations and this shoud not ask personal questions... I thought it was good at the time at least ><
#1 choice - McMaster Life Sci 2012
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Jayuna wrote:tinycities wrote:EastofEden wrote:Wow I definitely didn't help my application then! I dont know why, but I thought McMaster liked to see involvement, cooperation, leadership, independent learning, etc, backed up by extracurriculars. Oh well, too late to change my application now..
Out of curiosity, how did everyone interpret the last question on the supplementary application? Several people at my school applied to the program, and they had vastly different responses..some interpreted it as a question regarding applicants, others as a "taboo" question, or as a philosophical problem. Was it vague on purpose, to see if you thought outside of the box?
I wrote that the question that should not be asked... is exactly that. I basically had a heart attack after I realized everyone else wrote the exact same answer. Anyways, I think what matters is how you express yourself and the reasoning you put into your answer. I kinda wish I wrote that down. >< I actually wrote something completely different. I said that in the science persepective, no one questions shouldn't be asked. And then a went into a little bit of moral stuff - with how one should remain objective in situations and this shoud not ask personal questions... I thought it was good at the time at least >< I had about 5 different written versions of that last paragraph, and in the end I decided to go with a spur of the moment decision. My question that should not be asked was "What is the day of my death?". Apparently it was good enough.  Schulich BBA 2012
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ha! i got rejected too. what a blow to my ego. all the work i've put in just to get into this program... even after i didn't get the acceptance letter i was still trying to be hopeful--thinking maybe i'm still on the waiting list. i guess i just have a big dream with no success...i'm just so shocked. i honestly thought that my supplementary appliaction was awesome. i tried to be creative and avoid general questions (for #3)that most students would write down. i was very honest. i tried to illustrate that i'm a student who's always willing to learn, open-minded, ready to accept changes, etc. maybe i should've just wrote down all the characteristics of bhsc students from the website and try to make myself seem like the "perfect" student who would fit into this program...
some of my friends have been accepted, and they are like the people who are LEAST likely to be accepted into the program. i strongly believed that i was a better candidate. i guess the 'judges' thought otherwise. pshhh
i guess i'll still see some of you guys next year at mac. (although i'm having second thoughts AGAIN. grrr. i don't want to be overshadowed. that's not my character. maybe i should just go to western. hmmm)
for those who were rejected, and planning on going to biomed at western...why are you guys going there instead of life sci at mac?
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bausman480 wrote:I had about 5 different written versions of that last paragraph, and in the end I decided to go with a spur of the moment decision. My question that should not be asked was "What is the day of my death?". Apparently it was good enough.  Wow. It's a really creative answer. Congratulations in getting in :] It's so funny that (not to sound malicious or anything) everyone will appreciate it if you reject your offer ASAP, though. Health Sci is such a high-competency program! lol Western Biological & Medical Science 2012My heart was torn, but my friends & family & self-reflections were the greatest help in deciding. All of you who haven't decided, I know how it feels. Just keep swimming, and hope you all find your heart's desire! :]
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missgrace wrote:bausman480 wrote:I had about 5 different written versions of that last paragraph, and in the end I decided to go with a spur of the moment decision. My question that should not be asked was "What is the day of my death?". Apparently it was good enough.  Wow. It's a really creative answer. Congratulations in getting in :] It's so funny that (not to sound malicious or anything) everyone will appreciate it if you reject your offer ASAP, though. Health Sci is such a high-competency program! lol Thank you.  Oooh, the pressure to reject, lol. I would reject in a heartbeat if I wasn't so scared of rejecting something like HthSci and then deciding that that is exactly where I want to go. I can imagine my elbows would have permanent teeth-marks. I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with Schulich, but don't hold your breath for me to reject. The way I've been these last few months, my mind changes everyday. Some days I just want to tell everyone "screw off, I'm going to photography. Yes, i like the idea of poverty and starvation 4 years down the road".  Schulich BBA 2012
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Bausman I'm sure you were an amazing candidate as well and bhsc saw through that. Don't get pressured to reject, just choose the program that you think you should. It's just there's such a big pool of really really high quality applicants that mac just can't accept them all. I diddd like my last question/answer: "What came first... the chicken or the egg?" it was completely satirized. I didn't meet the cut offs so I don't think my supp app was even read, haha. I'm pretty glad that the whole waiting game is over though. I can finally make a decision without any lingering feelings now that the rejection is official, even if I knew I wouldn't get in  Good luck everyoneee!
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mooncancer907 wrote:I actually liked the last question. I even ended up using it as a prompt for a short autobiographical piece I wrote for the school newspaper. The story is called "what do you want to be when you grow up?". That wasn't the question I used in the real supplemental (for obvious reasons if you read the story). I've posted it just for fun. I feel like people who've actually have to struggle through the same question might appreciate it. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/266376/mooncancer"Then one day, as the girl opened yet another university application, she quickly scanned the questions. All right… nothing too strange…except that last question: “If there were one question which should not be asked, what would the question be and why?” I wolfed that down in, what, 3-4 minutes? You have a very easy-going style of writing.  And I can so relate. Schulich BBA 2012
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bausman480 wrote:missgrace wrote:bausman480 wrote:I had about 5 different written versions of that last paragraph, and in the end I decided to go with a spur of the moment decision. My question that should not be asked was "What is the day of my death?". Apparently it was good enough.  Wow. It's a really creative answer. Congratulations in getting in :] It's so funny that (not to sound malicious or anything) everyone will appreciate it if you reject your offer ASAP, though. Health Sci is such a high-competency program! lol Thank you.  Oooh, the pressure to reject, lol. I would reject in a heartbeat if I wasn't so scared of rejecting something like HthSci and then deciding that that is exactly where I want to go. I can imagine my elbows would have permanent teeth-marks. I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with Schulich, but don't hold your breath for me to reject. The way I've been these last few months, my mind changes everyday. Some days I just want to tell everyone "screw off, I'm going to photography. Yes, i like the idea of poverty and starvation 4 years down the road".  I'm so sorry if I sounded like I want to pressure you into rejecting! I just read a comment from someone saying that anyone who doesn't want to go should e-mail asap and let Mac know, and thought it funny/sad how we've come to being "every man is an island". Anyway, hope you find what you're looking for, cause I haven't got a clue, myself :] Western Biological & Medical Science 2012My heart was torn, but my friends & family & self-reflections were the greatest help in deciding. All of you who haven't decided, I know how it feels. Just keep swimming, and hope you all find your heart's desire! :]
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The question that I said that should not be asked (I didn't get in...just in case you were wondering): "Where do you see yourself in 20 years?" They evidently see themselves kind of of far away from me  So has anyone heard anything conclusive on Mac Life Sci? Good/easy/interesting/anything  ?
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I just reread my HthSci application... and I still don't get how I got in over you guys. It doesn't seem at all special to me, and a few flow errors jumped out at me immediately that I didn't see at the time. I must have just gotten extremely lucky.  But I'm not complaining. ^_^ Schulich BBA 2012
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bausman480 wrote:Thank you.  Oooh, the pressure to reject, lol. I would reject in a heartbeat if I wasn't so scared of rejecting something like HthSci and then deciding that that is exactly where I want to go. I can imagine my elbows would have permanent teeth-marks. I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with Schulich, but don't hold your breath for me to reject. The way I've been these last few months, my mind changes everyday. Some days I just want to tell everyone "screw off, I'm going to photography. Yes, i like the idea of poverty and starvation 4 years down the road".  bausman480, you really do remind me of myself back in the day. I had exactly the same options in terms of decisions (plus UW Math/CA).. swaying between the dichotomy of Science vs. Business. In the end, I decided Biotech/Econ as an effortable compromise between the two. Turns out I did not enjoy the way the program was run AT ALL - transfered into HealthSci in second year and I've never been happier. What I like the most about it is the fact that I'm in charge of what I want to learn, as opposed to what's decided upon by a rigid Program Course Outline and being spoon-fed. Plus in upper years there are some really neat courses like Management in Healthcare... and, I believe there's even an Evolutionary Game Theory upper level econ course at Mac! So what I'd suggest is to consider your options in terms of the personal freedom for self-exploration and growth that you foresee. haha don't try to compromise only to discover that it's not what you want after all. (Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions) And to everyone else.. Congrats! Even if you didn't get in, should you decide that you still want it a year down the road, there is still another chance =) I am living proof of that.
& "I'd rather die terrified than live forever..." - A Softer World
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does anyone kno what average they look for in 1st year uni if you choose to apply as a transfer student at the end of first year?
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perspicaciously wrote:bausman480 wrote:Thank you.  Oooh, the pressure to reject, lol. I would reject in a heartbeat if I wasn't so scared of rejecting something like HthSci and then deciding that that is exactly where I want to go. I can imagine my elbows would have permanent teeth-marks. I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with Schulich, but don't hold your breath for me to reject. The way I've been these last few months, my mind changes everyday. Some days I just want to tell everyone "screw off, I'm going to photography. Yes, i like the idea of poverty and starvation 4 years down the road".  bausman480, you really do remind me of myself back in the day. I had exactly the same options in terms of decisions (plus UW Math/CA).. swaying between the dichotomy of Science vs. Business. In the end, I decided Biotech/Econ as an effortable compromise between the two. Turns out I did not enjoy the way the program was run AT ALL - transfered into HealthSci in second year and I've never been happier. What I like the most about it is the fact that I'm in charge of what I want to learn, as opposed to what's decided upon by a rigid Program Course Outline and being spoon-fed. Plus in upper years there are some really neat courses like Management in Healthcare... and, I believe there's even an Evolutionary Game Theory upper level econ course at Mac! So what I'd suggest is to consider your options in terms of the personal freedom for self-exploration and growth that you foresee. haha don't try to compromise only to discover that it's not what you want after all. (Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions) And to everyone else.. Congrats! Even if you didn't get in, should you decide that you still want it a year down the road, there is still another chance =) I am living proof of that. That's an interesting take on things.  I'm like learning about science, and i really like their group-work approach and the fact that they teach you to think. The problem with HthSci is that I don't want anything to dow th medicine - i don't mind learning about it, and i really like science, but working in medicine is really not my cup of tea. I'm not sure whether i'm the right person for research - it seems rather boring to me... I'm horrible at teaching, so what else is there? I love the program, but not the job opportunities after it. :\ Schulich BBA 2012
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abc1234 wrote:does anyone kno what average they look for in 1st year uni if you choose to apply as a transfer student at the end of first year? At least a 9.5 on the 12 point scale (B+/A-).
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Just got my package, it said I have to maintain an 88% final. Does that reflect this year's actual cutoff?
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tinycities wrote:Just got my package, it said I have to maintain an 88% final. Does that reflect this year's actual cutoff? No. Every year, the conditional offers went out with a lower average than the cut-off. When the cut-off was 88%, they expected us to keep an 87% average to keep our offer.
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It is very funny how many people've said that they'll decline their offer ASAP and no one told us that they did it yet.
At least people from this forum who said that they'd decline the offer ( There were few i recall), I'm pretty sure u guys would do
it ASAP so that other people know what is going on and what's their chance of getting in. If u did decline,, we'd appreciate you
guys to write a comment here to cheer other people,, well it's up to you guys,, but anyway,, it is apprecitated (I got accepted to
BHS too btw)
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