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Boy jumps out of window at Ottawa University and Dies Options
AndreaB
Posted: September 15, 2009 12:38:06 PM

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Flag wrote:
scarboro wrote:
ARMY101 wrote:
bimmer35 wrote:
pinkchair wrote:
When people reach out and you treat them like sh!t, you never know how they'll be affected by it...


Any reason for saying this? Was this actually a case of bullying or were you making assumptions?


It's only assumptions right now. They haven't said what caused it - or even that it was a confirmed suicide (right now it's an 'alleged' suicide). The Res. and Frosh organizers better hope this doesn't come back to anything related to their events or drinking wink

Yeah, because partying and alcohol are known to cause people to feel agony and committ suicide.

It's obvious that if this is a suicide, it stems from family/psychological problems and not from the 'university experience'.


I think he was going for more of a 'got drunk and fell out a window'...



I don't think the u101 week organizers have to worry about being blamed for this. Because this happened so quickly (there had only been two days of classes) it means that this person's reasons for taking his own life are related to his experience before moving here.

IMO this person decided to take his life and was determined to do so just because of the way the windows are designed. It's not like you can fall from them by accident even if heavily intoxicated.

I'm very sad this person resorted to this action and I hope that the other grieving students will come out (relatively) ok from this event.

University is different from high school because students need to initiate the first step - they have to call or go the the service's office - a lot of people don't.

Finally, although I'm only speculating, this student could have also been on a type of medication that can increase the risk of having suicidal thoughts. In my own experience I've had Acutane (a drug to help reduce acne) and more recently Citalopram (an anti-depressant) both of these have warnings about some patients having thoughts about hurting themselves or suicide, or increasing these thoughts, as side effects. I'm speculating because more and more kids are medicated these days, and I don't know what his life before university could have been like (I'm not interested in blaming anyone).

So please try not to judge this poor kid. May he rest in peace and may the rest of the students and staff and the person who tried to revive him find solace.
Elfer
Posted: September 16, 2009 7:40:42 PM

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ARMY101 wrote:

It's only assumptions right now. They haven't said what caused it - or even that it was a confirmed suicide (right now it's an 'alleged' suicide). The Res. and Frosh organizers better hope this doesn't come back to anything related to their events or drinking wink


My girlfriend used to live in Thompson, and I can tell you that it's extremely improbable that someone would go through one of those windows by accident.
ARMY101
Posted: September 16, 2009 11:06:20 PM

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Rumour has it around the city/university students at Carleton and Ottawa that the guy was on LSD celebrating Frosh when this happened. Apparently he thought he could fly.

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Bachelor of Arts in Law
Elfer
Posted: September 21, 2009 11:19:36 AM

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ARMY101 wrote:
Rumour has it around the city/university students at Carleton and Ottawa that the guy was on LSD celebrating Frosh when this happened. Apparently he thought he could fly.


This sort of rumour is started every time somebody jumps out of a window, and ends up being true 0% of the time. Not only does LSD not make people jump out of windows (c.f. lack of huge spike in falling deaths during the 60s), one would wonder why someone would celebrate frosh week by doing LSD alone in their res room.


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