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Grade 12 courses--life sciences Options
elahon
Posted: July 19, 2009 6:01:04 PM
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ok so im starting gr 12 in the fall, n these are the courses i picked

1st sem
biology
chemistry
advanced functions
challenge n change

2nd sem
physics
english
calc
french

im planning to go into life sciences...im prettty sure i can cope with the first sem, but the thing is not a lot of unis want calc, some of them do (st george, w'loo i think), but im still planning to take it... to my knowledge, there arent ANY life sci programs that want physics as a "prereq" <-- correct me if im wrong

i just wanna know, should i drop physics and/or calc, for easier courses, or a spare? i was thinking of dropping physics, switching challenge n change to 2nd sem n having a spare first sem...plzzz help lol razz
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Posted: July 19, 2009 6:17:22 PM

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Many professional schools require at least one year of University calculus so regardless of the lifesci program you're going into, it's best to have MCV4U so you'll be able to take first year calculus. Again, many require at least one year of physics.

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caliver
Posted: July 19, 2009 7:20:38 PM

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I would personally drop french or challenge & change or both. LOL. maybe I am too asian.
I believe there's nothing bad about being prepared.
You can take a university level french or social science credit without taking a high school course; and your marks won't be significantly different whether you take a high school course or not in those courses (assuming you are taking intro french course).
On the other hand, for physics or calc, which you may need as pre-reqs, you may need to put in more effort to receive decent grades if you don't take high school calc or physics..

just my 2 cents.

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Lucid.Life
Posted: July 19, 2009 8:03:37 PM

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I was in the same position as you last year. I ended up dropping challenge and change for a spare, and it was a great decision because I had more time to work on my science and math courses. I think French is a good thing to have, as many jobs prefer bilingual workers, and it only works to your advantage if you know at least conversational french. I keep hearing adults saying that they wish they took French in high school. Physics was not required for any of the programs I applied to, though it was mostly recommended. Some schools require you to take Physics first year, while others don't. You should look into that.
crackajack
Posted: July 20, 2009 2:22:38 AM

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Honestly don't take more courses than you have to. You want to maximize your mark (top 6; in the first part of the year at least) and the rest does not matter at all. If you're actually interested in sciences then drop one of those useless courses and keep the relevant ones. If you're just going in to life sci because your a lame average student who wants to be a doctor, then...i don't care what you do because you're boring.

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hardfiction
Posted: July 20, 2009 6:41:13 PM

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French and Challenge and Changes got to go. I can see that they are the easiest of your options but at the same time still require a lot of time studying and of course the precious spares taken away.
elahon
Posted: July 22, 2009 4:00:18 PM
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lol yeah im thinking of getting rid of challenge n change now, bcz (at our school at least) its a pretty tedious course with a bunch of useless assignments, kinda like english razz
id rather keep french bcz its easy + i like it + apparently its useful, so i see no reason in dropping that
and i want to keep 7 courses, not 6, that way i have a backup course in case i screw up a non-prereq course (calc/physics? lol) oh yeah, btw do they look at the recommended courses for the top 6 over the other non prereq courses?

anyway the long term goal is to get into dentistry or medical school, yeah, n ive been getting pretty good grades all throughout high school, cept for 2nd sem gr 11, where they dropped a bit, but still enough to get into almost all life sci programs, so where should i go for uni? i was thinking abt mac life sci, and utm life sci (proximity was the reason why i picked that over utsg), maybe york biomed, bcz i heard that its easier to get a higher gpa in that program? any feedback on that from ppl who are in those programs, or have heard about them?
caliver
Posted: July 22, 2009 10:08:43 PM

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^ consider all the factors you would want for your university (e.g. proximity, campus size, ethnicity, etc.)

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Miss
Posted: July 23, 2009 2:10:12 AM

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also, just remember that a lot of university life science programs require at least one non science/math 12U credit. make sure you look into the pre-requisites of the programs you want to go into, i knew some people who had to do night school to make up for this mistake.

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dark.avalon
Posted: July 23, 2009 10:32:09 AM
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When the universities look at your Top 5/6 marks, they'll take the highest ones along with the courses specifically required for your stream of study. Most programs will look at English, and for Life Sciences/Biomed, I'd say they'll likely also look at your Biology mark.
If you really want to know the specific courses that will be factored into your Top 5/6 even if the mark is lower than some others you may have, check the websites. Most undergraduate admissions page will have the requirements listed along with the program/field of study.

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elahon
Posted: July 25, 2009 12:51:15 PM
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Lucid.Life wrote:
I was in the same position as you last year. I ended up dropping challenge and change for a spare, and it was a great decision because I had more time to work on my science and math courses. I think French is a good thing to have, as many jobs prefer bilingual workers, and it only works to your advantage if you know at least conversational french. I keep hearing adults saying that they wish they took French in high school. Physics was not required for any of the programs I applied to, though it was mostly recommended. Some schools require you to take Physics first year, while others don't. You should look into that.


so did you take physics? and what program did you go to in the end?
im a bit skeptical about physics because i did just ok in gr 11- a high 80, but apparently the gr 12 teacher is a demon, so why should i take a course which is not a pre-req at any uni, but will drop my grade for sure? if i drop physics n take a bird course like challenge and change or food n nutrition, thatll boost my average, + itll let calc be out of my top 6
caliver
Posted: July 25, 2009 1:24:00 PM

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elahon wrote:
Lucid.Life wrote:
I was in the same position as you last year. I ended up dropping challenge and change for a spare, and it was a great decision because I had more time to work on my science and math courses. I think French is a good thing to have, as many jobs prefer bilingual workers, and it only works to your advantage if you know at least conversational french. I keep hearing adults saying that they wish they took French in high school. Physics was not required for any of the programs I applied to, though it was mostly recommended. Some schools require you to take Physics first year, while others don't. You should look into that.


so did you take physics? and what program did you go to in the end?
im a bit skeptical about physics because i did just ok in gr 11- a high 80, but apparently the gr 12 teacher is a demon, so why should i take a course which is not a pre-req at any uni, but will drop my grade for sure? if i drop physics n take a bird course like challenge and change or food n nutrition, thatll boost my average, + itll let calc be out of my top 6


well, then why don't you take french and physics at the same time so you don't include physics in your top 6? i sometimes think it's not a bad idea to take a course just for the sake of learning lol.

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jayme
Posted: August 1, 2009 10:35:08 PM
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I know advanced functions is a pre requisite for life science. but does it HAVE TO BE included in the top 6 courses???
caliver
Posted: August 1, 2009 10:45:24 PM

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jayme wrote:
I know advanced functions is a pre requisite for life science. but does it HAVE TO BE included in the top 6 courses???

if its a pre-req, then it is included in the top 6.

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dark.avalon
Posted: August 1, 2009 11:29:09 PM
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caliver wrote:
jayme wrote:
I know advanced functions is a pre requisite for life science. but does it HAVE TO BE included in the top 6 courses???
if its a pre-req, then it is included in the top 6.
Yes.

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