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bijanv
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This seems to be a good debate and a great discussion to start on a new board.

So what do you think of UofT engineering compared to other schools and state your reasons (with FACTS if possible).

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nauru
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I don't think any engineering program in Canada can reasonably compete with U of T engineering. It is a pretty dominant force in the field, rightly or wrongly.
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I'd say Waterloo is right there with U of T in engineering. Engineering science at U of T is probably the most rigorous engineering program in the country though.
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Cina
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I imagine that Waterloo is up there with UofT. The co-op aspect is very valuable, in my opinion.

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Which one is better in terms of reputation?

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bijanv
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poppy1337 wrote:
Which one is better in terms of reputation?


It depends. Within Canada, Waterloo and UofT are regarded as equals however international reputation, UofT is much much more widely known and is ranked in the top 20 universities in the world very often with Waterloo no where to be found

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bijanv
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Cina wrote:
I imagine that Waterloo is up there with UofT. The co-op aspect is very valuable, in my opinion.


Mind you UofT has a summer co-op now + PEY which I think makes it much more attractive then Waterloo's co-op.

I'm doing co-op for 4 months in the summer this year (I'm in second year) and I'm doing PEY for 16 months net year, if the job is 12 months then I can do a co-op for 4 months and then start my PEY.

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Cina
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That's cool, I didn't know that. smile

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n3xo
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You can't go wrong with either, as they're usually considered the 'top 2' in Canada.

However, UW definitely has stronger industry relations due to the size of its co-op program. This could be good or bad depending on the quality of students that go to each company.
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bijanv wrote:
poppy1337 wrote:
Which one is better in terms of reputation?


It depends. Within Canada, Waterloo and UofT are regarded as equals however international reputation, UofT is much much more widely known and is ranked in the top 20 universities in the world very often with Waterloo no where to be found



Hmm well I don't know whether that's true anymore. Waterloo was voted the World's most intelligent community in 2007 so that definitely put us up on the map, along with all the interesting thinktanks and such like the Perimeter Institute, CIGI, The Centre for Quantum Computing, and the soon-to-be-built Jim Balsillie school of international affairs. We've definitely got the rep in terms of mathsci and compsci and the engineering programs are also very well known. UT is well established because of its age but I wouldn't say internationally its reputation surpasses UW in terms of how well it's known.
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Redrose27 wrote:
bijanv wrote:
poppy1337 wrote:
Which one is better in terms of reputation?


It depends. Within Canada, Waterloo and UofT are regarded as equals however international reputation, UofT is much much more widely known and is ranked in the top 20 universities in the world very often with Waterloo no where to be found



Hmm well I don't know whether that's true anymore. Waterloo was voted the World's most intelligent community in 2007 so that definitely put us up on the map, along with all the interesting thinktanks and such like the Perimeter Institute, CIGI, The Centre for Quantum Computing, and the soon-to-be-built Jim Balsillie school of international affairs. We've definitely got the rep in terms of mathsci and compsci and the engineering programs are also very well known. UT is well established because of its age but I wouldn't say internationally its reputation surpasses UW in terms of how well it's known.


What? You must be kidding. UW has the edge in CS, but for everything else U of T blows any other Canadian university out of the water when it comes to int'l recognition.
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The name UW is pretty well known right now I'd say, especially industry-wise. The question had been (or I had thought it was anyway) which one is more well known (in terms of name recognition) and Waterloo is definitely not unknown. UT is an established school with very good professors and excellent programs, but to say that it 'blows any other canadian university out of the water' is a bit of an overstatement I'd say. McGill, McMaster, and yes even Waterloo now are quite well known. I always get this feeling from (some) UT students that their school is the be-all and end-all when it's not always so.
bijanv
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Redrose27 wrote:
The name UW is pretty well known right now I'd say, especially industry-wise. The question had been (or I had thought it was anyway) which one is more well known (in terms of name recognition) and Waterloo is definitely not unknown. UT is an established school with very good professors and excellent programs, but to say that it 'blows any other canadian university out of the water' is a bit of an overstatement I'd say. McGill, McMaster, and yes even Waterloo now are quite well known. I always get this feeling from (some) UT students that their school is the be-all and end-all when it's not always so.


definitely true and with your other post, yes Waterloo is definitely making ground and its understandable for a rather new university (50 years now i believe compared to UofT's 175+ years? ) . Also McGill is very very widely known and internationally renowned as well and I would agree that it is an overstatement to say that UofT 'blows any other canadian university out of the water. Most universities teach the same things for undergrads so in the end not much matters, its the faculty, labs, and alumni that set a university apart from any other.

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n3xo
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When I say internationally I mean the whole world, not just North America. Why does U of T blow every other Canadian university out of the water? Because 'Toronto' is the only part foreigners will recognize.

I'm not saying that U of T is better than any other Canadian university... I was just addressing your point of international recognition.
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again, I don't necessarily agree. My family came to Canada for my parents to study at UW. It Is a well known university outside of North America and I suspect it will be even more so in the next few years. It doesn't hurt UT's reputation to acknowledge that there are other Canuck unis that are just as well known as it is. And I'd give non-Canadians more credit than to say they wouldn't recognize a university that doesn't have a major city in its name.
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n3xo wrote:
When I say internationally I mean the whole world, not just North America. Why does U of T blow every other Canadian university out of the water? Because 'Toronto' is the only part foreigners will recognize.


I must agree that a lot of people outside of North America know U of T because of 'Toronto'. Even for me, I think that was the only school I knew until I entered highschool. Anyhow, that's just talking about anyone, any random person you could meet in the street or something. I did hear that in the industries, especially those in the IT and engineering sectors, they do recognize UW. At least, from where I came from, a lot of the companies began recognizing UW. So in terms of reputation amongst industries, UW should definitely be up there with U of T. Besides, personally, I would want a reputation with the industries more than with just any random people tongue

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n3xo
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stargyt wrote:
n3xo wrote:
When I say internationally I mean the whole world, not just North America. Why does U of T blow every other Canadian university out of the water? Because 'Toronto' is the only part foreigners will recognize.


I must agree that a lot of people outside of North America know U of T because of 'Toronto'. Even for me, I think that was the only school I knew until I entered highschool. Anyhow, that's just talking about anyone, any random person you could meet in the street or something. I did hear that in the industries, especially those in the IT and engineering sectors, they do recognize UW. At least, from where I came from, a lot of the companies began recognizing UW. So in terms of reputation amongst industries, UW should definitely be up there with U of T. Besides, personally, I would want a reputation with the industries more than with just any random people tongue


Are you from East Asia? UW seems to have a strong reputation in East Asia (especially China, S.Korea and Vietnam) and the Middle East because a lot of the students can trace their roots to those parts of the world.

I do agree that UW is quite well know internationally for its CS program and perhaps engineering, but they're probably the only programs. I guess I went OT a bit, but I was thinking more of the entire university and not just individual programs.

btw, how was CS241 and CS251? bom
stargyt
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n3xo wrote:
stargyt wrote:
n3xo wrote:
When I say internationally I mean the whole world, not just North America. Why does U of T blow every other Canadian university out of the water? Because 'Toronto' is the only part foreigners will recognize.


I must agree that a lot of people outside of North America know U of T because of 'Toronto'. Even for me, I think that was the only school I knew until I entered highschool. Anyhow, that's just talking about anyone, any random person you could meet in the street or something. I did hear that in the industries, especially those in the IT and engineering sectors, they do recognize UW. At least, from where I came from, a lot of the companies began recognizing UW. So in terms of reputation amongst industries, UW should definitely be up there with U of T. Besides, personally, I would want a reputation with the industries more than with just any random people tongue


Are you from East Asia? UW seems to have a strong reputation in East Asia (especially China, S.Korea and Vietnam) and the Middle East because a lot of the students can trace their roots to those parts of the world.

I do agree that UW is quite well know internationally for its CS program and perhaps engineering, but they're probably the only programs. I guess I went OT a bit, but I was thinking more of the entire university and not just individual programs.

btw, how was CS241 and CS251? bom



Yes, I'm actually from S.Korea, lol.

Anyway, I LOVED CS241! My favourite univ. course so far!

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what were the cut off marks for last year??


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