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160 hours of overtime over 8 weeks is only about 20 hours of overtime a week. If that means from 40 to 60, it's not so extreme, particularly to be doing those sorts of hours for 2 months before a major product launch. Then again, this does appear to be a case from Japan, and I don't know that 40 hours is considered a normal work week there and I do hear lots of stories about excessive work hours.
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Taiyab wrote:Introduction and death of lead engineer The Toyota Camry Hybrid received its North American production introduction at the 2006 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. The lead engineer responsible for the development of the hybrid model died of ischaemic heart disease in January 2006 at the age of 45; his daughter found him dead the day before he was scheduled to fly to the United States for the new model's introduction.[6] In July 2008 the Aichi Labor Bureau ruled his death was due to overwork (karōshi). He had worked over 160 hours of overtime in the two months prior to his death.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry_Hybrid#Introduction_and_death_of_lead_engineer Yeah that's just the Japanese... their working ideals are absolutely nuts and as Kaylya mentioned, that's just doing 60 hour work weeks which is like working 11 hours a day for 2 months which isn't thaatt crazy, he probably had some conditions in the past that got triggered by the stress
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too bad you cant buy your life back with that overtime pay
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bijanv wrote:Taiyab wrote:Introduction and death of lead engineer The Toyota Camry Hybrid received its North American production introduction at the 2006 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. The lead engineer responsible for the development of the hybrid model died of ischaemic heart disease in January 2006 at the age of 45; his daughter found him dead the day before he was scheduled to fly to the United States for the new model's introduction.[6] In July 2008 the Aichi Labor Bureau ruled his death was due to overwork (karōshi). He had worked over 160 hours of overtime in the two months prior to his death.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry_Hybrid#Introduction_and_death_of_lead_engineer Yeah that's just the Japanese... their working ideals are absolutely nuts and as Kaylya mentioned, that's just doing 60 hour work weeks which is like working 11 hours a day for 2 months which isn't thaatt crazy, he probably had some conditions in the past that got triggered by the stress I'm almost certain their work weeks are longer, so the overtime would be ontop of the excessively long work week. The people who are employed are expected to work ridiculous hours, with fewer paid off-days, and it's socially unacceptable to use your sick days if you aren't coughing up blood in a hospital.
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changturkey wrote:Finding a job as an engineer is hard?!? Job hunting is easy especially if you are an aboriginal student and to talk to the recruiters at the job fairs that the university puts on instead of just going for the free stuff.
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Michy-C wrote:changturkey wrote:Finding a job as an engineer is hard?!? Job hunting is easy especially if you are an aboriginal student and to talk to the recruiters at the job fairs that the university puts on instead of just going for the free stuff. I was really thinking about doing engineering, just worried that when I come out I won't be able to find a job  .
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changturkey wrote:Michy-C wrote:changturkey wrote:Finding a job as an engineer is hard?!? Job hunting is easy especially if you are an aboriginal student and to talk to the recruiters at the job fairs that the university puts on instead of just going for the free stuff. I was really thinking about doing engineering, just worried that when I come out I won't be able to find a job . Move to Alberta....haha. But seriously, I don't know what the situation is in Ontario, but in Alberta most engineering grads get employed. In fact I got hired as a summer student at an engineering firm straight out of high school (making $10/hour) and this summer I'm making $18/hour at a different company.
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karla wrote:changturkey wrote:Michy-C wrote:changturkey wrote:Finding a job as an engineer is hard?!? Job hunting is easy especially if you are an aboriginal student and to talk to the recruiters at the job fairs that the university puts on instead of just going for the free stuff. I was really thinking about doing engineering, just worried that when I come out I won't be able to find a job . Move to Alberta....haha. But seriously, I don't know what the situation is in Ontario, but in Alberta most engineering grads get employed. In fact I got hired as a summer student at an engineering firm straight out of high school (making $10/hour) and this summer I'm making $18/hour at a different company. An ex boyfriend of mine is from Alberta, did Engineering at Acadia / Dalhousie, and wound up with a job in Ontario (Sault Ste. Marie). With anything it's generally harder to get a job if you are tied to a specific location.
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yeahh, you gotta be willing to move around, go places, meet people, make new friend, and keep touch with old ones.
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UofT2011 wrote:yeahh, you gotta be willing to move around, go places, meet people, make new friend, and keep touch with old ones. It's so true. All my engineering friends that are having trouble finding a job don't want to relocate. The ones that got jobs straight out of school were willing to pack up and move provinces.
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Shucks, makes me want to do law after engineering.
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HAHAHah naww engineering is life!
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If you're considering Med, keep in mind that not all Doctors have to make life or death decisions and be on call 24/7.
Personally, I think that being a doctor would be a very challenging and rewarding career and while money is not the most important issue, it does help compensate for the 8+ years of schooling and grueling residency.
As for the duration of the residency, as far as I know, it is 2-8 years depending on specialty with relatively minimal pay (45-75k).
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I think you should talk to some people in the field, maybe take some time to shadow a doctor or talk to an engineer. Like what was said earlier, you want your heart to be in it. I find that it is easier to excel at something you enjoy doing.
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UofT2011 wrote:Im studying towards an engineering degree, but i want to be a doctor. But seeing that my GPA isnt even close enough for Med school, i have kinda lost hope. I have developed a passion for engineering, i can have a realisitc idea in my head, and if i really want to, i can make it come true. Also, not that i love math, but i like it better then the sciences (exclusing biology [i think] ).
Either way, if i could get into Med school i would abandon engineering. With that being said, what are your opinion between a doctor or and engineering (exclude stuff like good money, prestige, or long works of work [ i can still live with or without it ] ) Before even contemplating medicine, you have to figure out if your willing to go through the extra years of schooling just to pull your GPA up to something competitive.
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