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Current grade 11's and McMaster Options
Cristy
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:05:01 AM
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Anyone here going into grade 12 next year, and are set on going to McMaster?

Also, anyone going to try to get into either Arts&Science or Health Sciences?

And, based on your grade 11 average, what top 6 mark do you think you will likely submit?
MikeH
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:16:52 AM
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Yeah I'm going into grade 12 next year.
and I'm applying for both Health Sci at McMaster and Life Sci at UTSG.

I got a 94% average for grade 11, and a 96% in my one grade 12 class (Biology) that year.
so hopefully something around 90% or so for my top 6.

__________ '13
kenvin100
Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:16:52 AM
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There was a HUGE thread on Mac Health Science, feel free to check that out

Apparantly, a lot of people were screwed thanks to the supplementary forms..Marks do count but doesn't always cut it. Health Sci is very competitive and I heard there's only 120 seats.
Macgirl
Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:19:52 PM

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Recommendations for applying to Mac Health Sci

1) Have a minimum 90% average. They won't even consider you with less than 88%. To be competitive you should have mid 90's or higher (not trying to discourage anyone, that's just the nature of the program).

2) Spend a lot of time on your supplementary application. This is typically the deciding factor for admissions since all applicants have such high grades, and there's very few openings.

3) If you don't have some impressive extracurriculars, you're wasting your time. They don't want to hear that you got a 99% average and didn't belong to any clubs, etc. They would rather have an applicant with a 90% average and an impressive list of extracurriculars (including clubs, sports, work, etc). Being in a leadership role in at least some of the extracurriculars is super important.

Overall not only do you have to have outstanding marks, you have to be a well rounded individual. If you don't get in don't sweat it. It's a super competitive program. And once you're in it it's still pretty competitive because most people in the program are looking to get into med school-so they want to be at the top of the class. I have two friends that transferred out of the program in second year because they couldn't handle the competitive attitude of the program-it can be cutthroat.

4th Year Mac Science Student.
Mac Psych Society Executive Member 2008/2009
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maya
Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:55:11 AM
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Hey Macgirl, thanks for the tips. It's scaring me already.

And I'm glad there are other grade 11(grade 12's next year) thinking about Health sciences right now cause' I though I was some kind of worry freak to start panicking about getting into the program right now.

I will most likely give:

English (mandatory)
Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vector
Biology
Chemistry
Accounting (cause' you can't give a tech or other math course)

what about you guys?
meena36366
Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:36:45 AM
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hey macgirl nd maya
i am taking
english
adv function
calc
bio
chem
physics
food and nutrition and
exercise science
and i am planning on applying to mac health sci or
Western: health and medical science
U of Ottawa : health science
McGill: Health science
u of alberta

dyou think the courses i m taking are ok?
kinda confused
maya
Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:10:35 PM
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Hey meena,

yeh, the courses you are taking are fine cause' you need:

ENG4U
One of: MHF4U, MCV4U or MDM4U
SCH4U
SBI4U
One non-math or non-science U or M credit*
*(Please note: courses in technological education, science or mathematics are not acceptable as the fifth course requirement.

and you have the requirements so you're good. But you have to get a 90 or above avg. Plus, you have to fill out the supplementary application.
meena36366
Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:31:14 PM
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hey thanks smile
but umm now i m hearing tht mc health sci is not tht good anymore cuz all the unis kno tht its easy to get a high gpa in tht program ?
is tht tru i mean do unis look at where yu got yur undergrad from wen yu apply to med schools?
No Name
Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:08:11 PM
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maya wrote:
Hey Macgirl, thanks for the tips. It's scaring me already.

And I'm glad there are other grade 11(grade 12's next year) thinking about Health sciences right now cause' I though I was some kind of worry freak to start panicking about getting into the program right now.

I will most likely give:

English (mandatory)
Advanced Functions
Calculus and Vector
Biology
Chemistry
Accounting (cause' you can't give a tech or other math course)

what about you guys?



ENG4U
SCH4U
SBI4U
SPH4U
PSE4U
CIA4U
MCV4U
MHF4U
Macgirl
Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:05:27 AM

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meena36366 wrote:
hey thanks smile
but umm now i m hearing tht mc health sci is not tht good anymore cuz all the unis kno tht its easy to get a high gpa in tht program ?
is tht tru i mean do unis look at where yu got yur undergrad from wen yu apply to med schools?


Honestly, it doesn't matter where you get your undergrad degree from, or (in most cases) what your degree is even in as long as you have the pre-reqs for med school. Your GPA will be important, as will your extracurriculars and MCAT score.

Health Sciences might give you a bit of an edge preparation wise for med school in the sense that the courses are designed to give you a strong foundation for what you will learn in med school. The teaching style is also very similar to medical school. You'll also receive a lot of support through the faculty for your med school application, and with such small classes you'll get to know your profs, and will have no problem getting the letters of reference, etc that you need. That said, it can be very competitive in the classes as pretty much everyone in the program wants to be the top of their class to increase their chances of getting in. One of my close friends transferred out of Macs health sci program because he couldn't handle the competitiveness of his peers and how the program was designed-he wanted to 'enjoy' his undergrad before med school (that was how he put it-once again, only second hand info here!).

Don't make the mistake of picking the program because you think it'll give you the best chance for getting into med school. If all the courses genuinely sound interesting, go for it. But if you'd be just as happy in a science program, or a different undergrad program, keep your options open. You don't have the same competition between peers in other programs, and as long as you attend classes and put a bit of effort in, it's not hard to get a stellar GPA in other programs. And still have the free time to have a social life and get involved.

Your GPA will be very important for getting into med school, so make sure you pick a program you'll think you'll excel at. And enjoy-interest goes a long way at university. I've taken classes that I thought I would increase my chances of getting into med school (up until last year I was set on going to med school) only to find I was completely bored, and didn't do as well because I simply wasn't interested.

Your MCAT score will also be very important, so make sure you get in classes that will prepare you for that. Namely, biology, physics, and chemistry. Some of these will already be pre-reqs for certain med schools, but it's important to keep that in mind when you're picking classes. It's also important to know what the pre-reqs are for the schools that interest you so that you can get them all in. Before you write the MCAT it'll probably be a good idea to do an MCAT prep course if you can afford it.

Your extracurriculars are also hugely important, which is why I laugh when highschool students complain that you shouldn't need ECs to get into the health sci program, which is basically a pre-med program. You're going to need ECs when you apply to med school too, and you'll need to show that you can be in a leadership role. I would recommend getting involved in at least a small role on campus (or off campus at a club/organization that interests you) starting in your first year, otherwise before you know it you'll be in your fourth year trying to cram in a bunch of ECs and pull off a great GPA, prepare for the MCATs and get your med school application together.

My cousin just graduated a year ago from Macs med school. She did her undergrad in zoology at the University of Guelph, and had a bunch of ECs throughout uni. She had an amazing GPA (almost a 4.0), and she didn't get in to any med schools the first time she applied because her ECs weren't diverse enough. At least that's the conclusion she came to, because she took a year off, did some more serious volunteering in a leadership capacity, and reapplied. She got in to all but one of the schools she applied to at that point, and picked Mac.

If you guys have any more questions about med school let me know (or the process of getting there). I have a few family members that have finished med school now, and since up until a year ago everything I did at uni was in the hopes of getting into med school, I basically took notes on what my family members did!

4th Year Mac Science Student.
Mac Psych Society Executive Member 2008/2009
Mac Community Standards Assistant 2008/2009
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No Name
Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:47:31 PM
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I have 100 volunteer hours, so do I need some more ECs?
Macgirl
Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:13:16 PM

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No Name wrote:



I have 100 volunteer hours, so do I need some more ECs?


It's not about quantity it's about quality. Mac really wants to see that you can take on a leadership role, so volunteering for one hour in a leadership position is worth more than volunteering for five hours where you're volunteer number 238. Do you have any positions where you have some sort of leadership role? You don't have to be at the top of the food chain, but having some leadership role is important.

Diversity can be important too. Are all your volunteer hours with one organization? It's better to be involved in a few different things-on the same token though, commitment to a few select places is also good-they don't want to see that you did 2 hours for 50 different events because it just shows you're all over the place.

If you have a good selection in your volunteer hours, and some leadership roles you should be fine. Do you also have some ECs outside your volunteer hours-say with student council or student groups that might not count toward your volunteer hours? (Things that run during school hours don't count). Keep in mind that they want to see a well balanced applicant. Someone might get in with just 40 volunteer hours consisting of a few AMAZING positions, along with a stellar GPA, whereas someone else might have 400 volunteer hours without a single leadership role and not get in regardless of their GPA.

4th Year Mac Science Student.
Mac Psych Society Executive Member 2008/2009
Mac Community Standards Assistant 2008/2009
Vote for me: http://www.cbc.ca/nextprimeminister/candidates/shilodavis.html
meena36366
Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:25:57 AM
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thank you so much macgirl smile you are amazing!
so i have a few more questions well i need advice
which unis do you think i should apply to?
i am thinking of uofottawa, uofalberta, uoft, mac,mcgill,and western
also about the ec, i volunteer at the hospital, i am well i am gona be the volunteer co-ordinator of youth action network (board of directors), i work at the dental clinic 3 days a week for 4 hrs, and at the senior centre, do you think thts enuff and also i was wondering if you could tell mee about the things that i should do as ec i mean you were talking about leadership so is being volun.co for yan enough?


thanks!smile


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