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which universities are Ivy League of Canada? Options
joonzerg
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There are 8 universities in Ivy League :

Harvard Yale Princeton Columbia Cornell Brown Dartmouth UPenn



if you gotta pick 4 universities for Ivy League of Canada,

which ones would you pick ??

I guess UofT, Mcgill, Queens, and Waterloo ??
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pretty much
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joonzerg wrote:

There are 8 universities in Ivy League :

Harvard Yale Princeton Columbia Cornell Brown Dartmouth UPenn



if you gotta pick 4 universities for Ivy League of Canada,

which ones would you pick ??

I guess UofT, Mcgill, Queens, and Waterloo ??


Good, but at the same time, bad question. It's not about the uni at all in Canada, it's about the program. I guess you could say we have 'Ivy league caliber programs' but there is no clear-cut Ivy league caliber uni here. I guess your uni choices would be right, but I'd change Queens for UBC.

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correct me if i'm wrong but weren't the ivies based on like athletic competitions or something?

i wouldn't say we really have an ivy equivalent in canada. there are no real harvards or yales or princetons in the way people identify those. there are, however, some excellent universities.

mcgill i'd say is canada's top uni all around.

ut is great for most programs as well

queen's, ubc, western, waterloo, and maybe mcmaster are all tops in some aspect of uni studies and life so they'd share that role as a top canadian university.


personally, for all around uni i'd pick McGill, UT, UBC, and either UW, UWO, or Queen's.
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Kaylya
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The Ivy League schools in the US are

- old
- selective
- small to medium sized (by Canadian standards), but with extensive graduate programs - From Dartmouth College at a bit over 4,000 undergraduate students to Cornell with under 14,000.

Queen's probably best fits that description. Of course, as someone has mentioned - the Ivy League is a sports league.

Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.
FionaA
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I'd say U of T, Mcgill, Queen's, and UBC.
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Elusive wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Ivies


thats jokes. lol never even heard of dalhousie

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GGG wrote:
Elusive wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Ivies


thats jokes. lol never even heard of dalhousie


If it's any consolation Dalhousie probably hasn't heard of you, either.
Redrose27
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i personally don't really think any of the self-naming of the 'canadian ivies' really holds any worth. even in the us there are more public universities like berkeley that i would argue surpass the reputation and educational worth of some of the actual ivies.
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Redrose27 wrote:
i personally don't really think any of the self-naming of the 'canadian ivies' really holds any worth. even in the us there are more public universities like berkeley that i would argue surpass the reputation and educational worth of some of the actual ivies.



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if we're talking about ivy league in the traditional sense of a group of unis getting together for sports, saw this last week:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Four

makes sense to me.

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Redrose27 wrote:
i personally don't really think any of the self-naming of the 'canadian ivies' really holds any worth. even in the us there are more public universities like berkeley that i would argue surpass the reputation and educational worth of some of the actual ivies.


The Ivy League schools aren't supposed to be the best schools in the States; they are just a group of elite, old Northeastern schools that compete with one another in athletics.

The Old Four makes a lot of sense to me too. Dal might also be worthy of a spot, but UBC doesn't really belong (way too far away and not old enough). They are all old, close in proximity, they have long-standing athletic rivalries, they are all known for their academics, etc....

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Hhhhh
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The whole comparison is ridiculous for a number of reasons.

First of all all the major schools in Canada are public.

Secondly, many of the schools sometimes associated with the "Canadian Ivies" do not even rank very high in international rankings. (e.g Dalhousie and Western)

Further, the majority of schools in Canada that are respected are large institutions with 15,000+ students. The University of Toronto has over 60,000 students and McGill and UBC (the latter which can't belong anyways because it is in the West and relatively new) also have huge numbers. Thus the schools resemble big U.S. public institutions more than private schools with relatively small student bodies.

A more definitive list of Canadian Universities that are important is the G13 list. The institutions on that list have the most money (like the Ivies), both in terms of endowments and competitive research grants.
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joonzerg wrote:

There are 8 universities in Ivy League :

Harvard Yale Princeton Columbia Cornell Brown Dartmouth UPenn



if you gotta pick 4 universities for Ivy League of Canada,

which ones would you pick ??

I guess UofT, Mcgill, Queens, and Waterloo ??



Waterloo?

Isn't Waterloo quite a new school?

What about the five or six universities that rank in the top 200 of the THES rankings?

Or the 4-5 that rank in the top 100 of the Shanghai Jong Tong's Academic Ranking of World Universities?
Kaylya
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Hhhhh wrote:
The whole comparison is ridiculous for a number of reasons.

First of all all the major schools in Canada are public.

Secondly, many of the schools sometimes associated with the "Canadian Ivies" do not even rank very high in international rankings. (e.g Dalhousie and Western)

Further, the majority of schools in Canada that are respected are large institutions with 15,000+ students. The University of Toronto has over 60,000 students and McGill and UBC (the latter which can't belong anyways because it is in the West and relatively new) also have huge numbers. Thus the schools resemble big U.S. public institutions more than private schools with relatively small student bodies.

A more definitive list of Canadian Universities that are important is the G13 list. The institutions on that list have the most money (like the Ivies), both in terms of endowments and competitive research grants.


While naturally U of T has the biggest endowment, Mount Allison has a considerably bigger endowment per student.

Remember that it often takes just as long to do a search or two on Google to try and find the answer to your question as it takes to type it in a post here, let alone the time waiting for a reply.
If your question is "What mark does it take to get into University X", or "What are the requirements to get into University X", it's on their website and/or electronicinfo.ca (for Ontario schools). Particularly for Ontario schools, those ranges are a pretty good picture of what kind of mark will get you into the program, and if you're more than a couple percent higher it's practically guaranteed unless it requires a supplementary form.
Pinku
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Kaylya wrote:
Hhhhh wrote:
The whole comparison is ridiculous for a number of reasons.

First of all all the major schools in Canada are public.

Secondly, many of the schools sometimes associated with the "Canadian Ivies" do not even rank very high in international rankings. (e.g Dalhousie and Western)

Further, the majority of schools in Canada that are respected are large institutions with 15,000+ students. The University of Toronto has over 60,000 students and McGill and UBC (the latter which can't belong anyways because it is in the West and relatively new) also have huge numbers. Thus the schools resemble big U.S. public institutions more than private schools with relatively small student bodies.

A more definitive list of Canadian Universities that are important is the G13 list. The institutions on that list have the most money (like the Ivies), both in terms of endowments and competitive research grants.


While naturally U of T has the biggest endowment, Mount Allison has a considerably bigger endowment per student.


Yeah! I just saw that and I was really shocked/impressed. The endowment of Mount Alison is really impressive seeing their student population is so small.

I don't believe that the G13 list is truly reflective on the quality of education, it's just reflective on the potential for research and facilities.

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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:02:31 PM

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I'm sorry, but "Canadian Ivies" are non-existent. Canadian universities just aren't selective enough (unless you look at specific programs like schulich and Mac HSc). Plus, there are also several US schools that are underrated, but are unfortunately not Ivy League such as Stanford and John Hopkins.
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I'm sorry, but "Canadian Ivies" are non-existent. Canadian universities just aren't selective enough (unless you look at specific programs like schulich and Mac HSc). Plus, there are also several US schools that are underrated, but are unfortunately not Ivy League such as Stanford and John Hopkins.


Don't forget UC Berkeley.

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