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kenvin100
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:21:08 PM
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karla wrote:
changturkey wrote:
kenvin100 wrote:
I don't regret going to McMaster, cause it's gonna be a life changing experience..sure I'm leaving a lot of friends behind but I rather move on and leave this city of the a dump (Scarborough) I called home..

I agree with CRAZYBUBBA..its true only if you attend a decent highschool..something i didnt do, and Im attending Mac Engineering and wasting my summer reviewing...sigh...


Is Mac Engineering hard? Actually, is engineering as hard as people say it is?


I don't know. And no, engineering isn't as hard as people say.


That truly depends on the person..if u kno how to manage your time properly, you can do well..

OR you can try to prepare for it as best as possible, thas what im doing cause I had a terrible chem teacher who taught us cation is positive cause of the 't' in cation (t looks like a + or w.e)

I rather review regardless if I got 50 or 100 in any course..it will give us a slight advantage in the beginning and learning basic fundamentals do help..
Taiyab
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:24:19 PM
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I regret pigeon-holing myself in Engineering.


University of Lost Hope, Broken Dreams and Tattered Souls - Sanitational Engineering '08
Self-help: I am taking Engineering, but Engineering isn't taking me.
karla
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:27:09 PM

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kenvin100 wrote:
karla wrote:
changturkey wrote:
kenvin100 wrote:
I don't regret going to McMaster, cause it's gonna be a life changing experience..sure I'm leaving a lot of friends behind but I rather move on and leave this city of the a dump (Scarborough) I called home..

I agree with CRAZYBUBBA..its true only if you attend a decent highschool..something i didnt do, and Im attending Mac Engineering and wasting my summer reviewing...sigh...


Is Mac Engineering hard? Actually, is engineering as hard as people say it is?


I don't know. And no, engineering isn't as hard as people say.


That truly depends on the person..if u kno how to manage your time properly, you can do well..

OR you can try to prepare for it as best as possible, thas what im doing cause I had a terrible chem teacher who taught us cation is positive cause of the 't' in cation (t looks like a + or w.e)

I rather review regardless if I got 50 or 100 in any course..it will give us a slight advantage in the beginning and learning basic fundamentals do help..


I would disagree. Reviewing your high school material for university is in my opinion a waste of time. All of your courses will review it all anyways, there is really no point. I didn't review and probably forgot almost everything as soon as I graduated high school and I had no problem in first year whatsoever. Enjoy your summer. Forget high school.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
changturkey
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:50:33 PM
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kenvin100 wrote:
karla wrote:
changturkey wrote:
kenvin100 wrote:
I don't regret going to McMaster, cause it's gonna be a life changing experience..sure I'm leaving a lot of friends behind but I rather move on and leave this city of the a dump (Scarborough) I called home..

I agree with CRAZYBUBBA..its true only if you attend a decent highschool..something i didnt do, and Im attending Mac Engineering and wasting my summer reviewing...sigh...


Is Mac Engineering hard? Actually, is engineering as hard as people say it is?


I don't know. And no, engineering isn't as hard as people say.


That truly depends on the person..if u kno how to manage your time properly, you can do well..

OR you can try to prepare for it as best as possible, thas what im doing cause I had a terrible chem teacher who taught us cation is positive cause of the 't' in cation (t looks like a + or w.e)

I rather review regardless if I got 50 or 100 in any course..it will give us a slight advantage in the beginning and learning basic fundamentals do help..


Er, but cation ions are postitive, and that 't' memory helper thing kinda helps too, just like BEDMAS and SOHCAHTOA, stuff like that. But two questions, what is the avg amount of work (in hours) per week for a engineering student? Is it even possible to have a social life?
karla
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:53:36 PM

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changturkey wrote:
kenvin100 wrote:
karla wrote:
changturkey wrote:
kenvin100 wrote:
I don't regret going to McMaster, cause it's gonna be a life changing experience..sure I'm leaving a lot of friends behind but I rather move on and leave this city of the a dump (Scarborough) I called home..

I agree with CRAZYBUBBA..its true only if you attend a decent highschool..something i didnt do, and Im attending Mac Engineering and wasting my summer reviewing...sigh...


Is Mac Engineering hard? Actually, is engineering as hard as people say it is?


I don't know. And no, engineering isn't as hard as people say.


That truly depends on the person..if u kno how to manage your time properly, you can do well..

OR you can try to prepare for it as best as possible, thas what im doing cause I had a terrible chem teacher who taught us cation is positive cause of the 't' in cation (t looks like a + or w.e)

I rather review regardless if I got 50 or 100 in any course..it will give us a slight advantage in the beginning and learning basic fundamentals do help..


Er, but cation ions are postitive, and that 't' memory helper thing kinda helps too, just like BEDMAS and SOHCAHTOA, stuff like that. But two questions, what is the avg amount of work (in hours) per week for a engineering student? Is it even possible to have a social life?


Yeah I love it when teachers give helpful memory aids.

It all depends. I spent an hour or two a day on homework, and then when exams came around it was about the same amount of time devoted to studying. I played varsity rugby which was usually a 10 hour a week time committment at the very least. I also had time to hang out with my boyfriend almost daily and go out with my friends every weekend.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
changturkey
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:07:11 PM
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Yeah I love memory aids too, they really help during exams for sciences and mathes.

So I can expect sorta the same weekly schedule you described with pretty much any engineering program?
karla
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:10:51 PM

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I think so. They're all regulated by the CEAB so most engineering programs are going to be fairly similar.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
Kaylya
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:07:33 PM

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How much time you need to spend on Engineering will depend on you much more than the program.

qwertqwert
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:32:45 PM
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karla, I think it's a bit disingenuous for you to keep saying that engineering isn't hard, seems like an ego-boosting sort of thing. Almost everyone I know in that program have said, yes, it is fairly difficult and you have to put a lot of work into it. Some people are smarter than others, and have easier times with school, and you may be one of those people, but frequently saying it's easy seems as insincere as the way another certain poster (cough) keeps saying how mind-numbingly difficult it is.

Just my opinion...

York University, Geomatics Engineering
BrackenClelk
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:15:42 PM

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Lol.

(Don't mind me)
Kaylya
Posted: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:53:50 PM

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qwertqwert wrote:
karla, I think it's a bit disingenuous for you to keep saying that engineering isn't hard, seems like an ego-boosting sort of thing. Almost everyone I know in that program have said, yes, it is fairly difficult and you have to put a lot of work into it. Some people are smarter than others, and have easier times with school, and you may be one of those people, but frequently saying it's easy seems as insincere as the way another certain poster (cough) keeps saying how mind-numbingly difficult it is.

Just my opinion...


All university programs require a decent amount of work if you want to do well. It is true that Karla seems to be a "top student". The other person you bring up wound up in Engineering because Laurier Business wasn't a good enough school for his standards and he didn't make it into his first choices of business schools. I did CS, not Engineering, but CS is also widely considered to be "hard". I'm not of the impression that my classmates completely abandoned their social life, nor did I. I'd even go so far as to say that in my first semester, my roommate who was in Arts worked harder than I did, while I'm pretty sure I got better marks (note here that the first semester of intro programming was a pretty trivial class for me, and I'm fairly certain my high school preparation at a school that offered IB in Ontario was better than hers at a school in a small town in NS).

My personal belief is that it is probably easier to "coast" through an Arts degree for most people, but that doesn't mean it doesn't require a lot of work to do really well at that Arts degree. My friend who did a Geology degree ended up taking a 3rd year History course and honestly felt that the history course was the hardest course she took (the course was on a topic relating somewhat to geology, Environmental History or something like that). Maybe she wouldn't have felt the same way if she was aiming for C's rather than A's, I don't know.

If you struggle in Math, sure, Engineering may be super tough for you - and maybe it's not the right program for you. But some of those Engineers might do terribly in an Arts degree because they suck at writing.



karla
Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:21:20 AM

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qwertqwert wrote:
karla, I think it's a bit disingenuous for you to keep saying that engineering isn't hard, seems like an ego-boosting sort of thing. Almost everyone I know in that program have said, yes, it is fairly difficult and you have to put a lot of work into it. Some people are smarter than others, and have easier times with school, and you may be one of those people, but frequently saying it's easy seems as insincere as the way another certain poster (cough) keeps saying how mind-numbingly difficult it is.

Just my opinion...


I'm not saying it's easy, and yeah it'll be hard at times, but it's definitely not as hard as people say. I am tired of people claiming engineering is so much more difficult than any other program, when it's really not. I think the workload for a first year student in any program is comparable. Some friends of mine in arts were putting in triple the amount of time as engineers to stay ahead in their calculus class. I feel like saying 'oh my god engineering is SO hard' is an ego-boosting things for engineers who aren't doing so well in their program and like to think it's because it's so much more difficult than any other program. I'm just trying to squash that myth.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
qwertqwert
Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:29:19 AM
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I think the workload for a first year student in any program is comparable.


Then I have to kind of wonder about your engineering program. I've looked over the engineering program at York (Which isn't even "top-tier" for engineering like U of T), and engineers have to take more credits than regular students (arts degrees need 90 credits, while engineering degrees require 140-156 depending on stream), in essence cramming 5 years worth of credits into 4 in order to get that degree, and the schedules end up very crowded. I don't see how anyone can say that the workload is comparable. Especially since multiple math/science courses is certainly more work than multiple social science courses. And I know this because my brother is an Arts student.

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I'm just trying to squash that myth.


Again, I don't think it's a myth, and I think it's almost universally accepted that certain programs (engineering, medicine) are harder than certain other programs (social work, political science).

Again, if you're able to get good marks easily and all that, that's good and all, but I still think it's a bit disingenuous.

York University, Geomatics Engineering
karla
Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:58:51 AM

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My engineering program is the same as any other, they are all regulated by the CEAB, we all take similar courses. Yes I take 6 courses a semester instead of 5. Usually one of those courses is a joke (in first year we took 'intro to engineering' courses, which were credit/no credit). It is a bit of a more crowded schedule, but not exceptionally so when compared to some others. If you're good at math/science, than those multiple math/science courses might very well be easier than multiple social science courses. It will be tough if you don't have time management skills, an interest in the program, and some aptitude in math and science. But then you shouldn't have gone into engineering if you don't have those things. Yes I have always been able to do well in school while doing extracurriculars, having a social life, etc, but many of my friends (and I had a LOT of friends who went into engineering) did just fine in engineering. They didn't exactly get top marks, but they got a decent enough GPA while still going out with friends, working a part time job, and doing whatever else they were doing.

I never said it was easy to get a 4.0 GPA, I'm just saying the program isn't as hard as everyone likes to say it is.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
bijanv
Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:38:35 PM
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karla wrote:
My engineering program is the same as any other, they are all regulated by the CEAB, we all take similar courses.


Although that is true, it still doesn't mean every school is at the same difficulty. I think you can relate it just how high school was. Everyone takes the same courses but some schools it's much harder to get a 80+ in a course than another.

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karla
Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:39:09 PM

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bijanv wrote:
karla wrote:
My engineering program is the same as any other, they are all regulated by the CEAB, we all take similar courses.


Although that is true, it still doesn't mean every school is at the same difficulty. I think you can relate it just how high school was. Everyone takes the same courses but some schools it's much harder to get a 80+ in a course than another.


Not in Alberta.

University of Alberta - Mechanical Engineering '11
Adu
Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:56:42 AM
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any one regretting going to ivey schulich or QC and wish they went to the other 2

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aztekxero
Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:26:35 AM
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bijanv wrote:
karla wrote:
My engineering program is the same as any other, they are all regulated by the CEAB, we all take similar courses.


Although that is true, it still doesn't mean every school is at the same difficulty. I think you can relate it just how high school was. Everyone takes the same courses but some schools it's much harder to get a 80+ in a course than another.


I tend to believe this is true, but I don't have any firsthand proof or anything. Engineering is definitely hard. I would wager saying that it requires more work than many other programs, but it is my no means impossible.

U of T Electrical Engineering 1T1
nauru
Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:07:58 AM
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I regret my highschool choice. I should have gone someplace where I would actually be challenged rather than bored/apathetic. The IB program probably would have been a better choice for me.
Juiced8
Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:41:12 AM

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nauru wrote:
I regret my highschool choice. I should have gone someplace where I would actually be challenged rather than bored/apathetic. The IB program probably would have been a better choice for me.


IB and other enriched programs aren't worth it, trust me. I ca nt speak for IB but in enriched and gifted programs the challenge comes in looking for tricks and being ever so slightly creative, things that your kindof expected to do in university. Once you see a dozen of these dumb little tricks it becomes second nature to look for them. Thats all it was. Going over a few past exams when your in university will pretty much cover that garbage so dont worry, just be thankful you put in less work than other people to get where you are( or going ). Oh and even your taught "advanced" material, it'll usually be material that was left out of highschool cause theres no time, and its fairly easy enough to learn university. The worst part of that is thinking that your amazing at doing something( like integration..sub...partial..parts..trig ) in highschool, not really studying the concept in university and at the last minute finding out that theres a whole new class of harder integration problems that aren't straightforward, well upon first glance anyway.

Mcgill BSc 2010


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