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Hey guys, so I just got a trial day from a casual-dining restaurant as a hostess, and I was wondering what the averages wages were for that position in the toronto area. Also, do hosts usually get a portion of tips, or no? I have friends who wait tables etc and they keep saying diff things...
p.s. for everyone whos' suggesting waiting tables, I've been told that you have to be 18 to start waitressing/waitering in ontario, so was it for a different province?
"My parents live in Ohio; I live in the moment." -himym.
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You have to be 18 (generally) to waitress in Ontario because most restaurants/pubs/etc serve alcohol, and you can't bring it over to the patrons unless you're 18 because that would technically be illegal. I don't think this rule is enforced much, but it's easier for restaurants that serve alcohol to just hire 18+.
I don't think you can get tips as a hostess, unless the people specifically give you the tip.
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heythereb wrote:You have to be 18 (generally) to waitress in Ontario because most restaurants/pubs/etc serve alcohol, and you can't bring it over to the patrons unless you're 18 because that would technically be illegal. I don't think this rule is enforced much, but it's easier for restaurants that serve alcohol to just hire 18+.
I don't think you can get tips as a hostess, unless the people specifically give you the tip. That makes no sense. To 'posses' alcohol you can be any age. To 'drink' alcohol you need to be 19 or over. I'm sure they don't give a crap how old you are. Only one condition: Must be 'easy' on the eyes. 
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In Ontario, you have to be 18 and over to serve alcohol. This means bartending or just bringing ready-made drinks to a table.
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scarboro wrote:heythereb wrote:You have to be 18 (generally) to waitress in Ontario because most restaurants/pubs/etc serve alcohol, and you can't bring it over to the patrons unless you're 18 because that would technically be illegal. I don't think this rule is enforced much, but it's easier for restaurants that serve alcohol to just hire 18+.
I don't think you can get tips as a hostess, unless the people specifically give you the tip. That makes no sense. To 'posses' alcohol you can be any age. To 'drink' alcohol you need to be 19 or over. I'm sure they don't give a crap how old you are. Only one condition: Must be 'easy' on the eyes. You have to be 18 to serve alcohol in Ontario.
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scarboro wrote:That makes no sense. To 'posses' alcohol you can be any age. To 'drink' alcohol you need to be 19 or over. I'm sure they don't give a crap how old you are. Only one condition: Must be 'easy' on the eyes. Not true: University of Toronto Health Services wrote:In Ontario , you must be at least 19 years old to drink, possess or purchase alcohol (except when a parent gives his or her own child alcohol in their home). The following documents are acceptable proofs-of-age: Ontario Age-of-Majority Card; Ontario Driver's License which includes both a photo card and license card; Canadian Passport; Canadian Citizenship Card with a photo; Canadian Armed Forces Identification Card with a photo. Servers of alcohol are required by law to demand proof-of-age.
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actually, yeah I started my shift today, and it turns out that yes, the age to serve alcohol is 18. It's probably a different kind of law for selling alcohol in restaurants, rather than in the privacy of your home kind of a thing.
Either way, wow, what an easy job, cuz the restaurant was soooo dead today. ended up going home after like 2 hours... Anyone else work in the food services industry around here?
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First of all, to serve alcohol in Ontario you must be 18, and you need a SmartServe certificate (at least in restaurants). As for wages/tips for a hostess as opposed to a server, a hostess makes minimum wage or whatever wage you have agreed to. If your restaurant pools tips, then you may be able to make tipout. Servers make below minimum wage, but with what they make in tips on average they end up making the most money per shift than anyone else. This past weekend, my manager was unable to work, and a senior server had to fill in as manager. He ended up losing about $500 salary over the weekend, because he makes more than the manager, all because of tips. EDIT: Here's a bit more on the subject Quote:In Ontario the legal age to drink alcohol is 19 years old. The legal age to serve alcohol in a licensed establishment is 18 years old. "Serving alcohol" includes taking drink orders, taking payment for alcoholic beverages, stocking the refrigerator or bar area, and bartending. Quote:The Smart Serve Training Program has been developed by Smart Serve Ontario, a division of the Hospitality Industry Training Organization of Ontario (HITOO), and endorsed by the AGCO.
Smart Serve training is mandatory for the following individuals:
New liquor sales licence holders, including new licence applicants, licence transfer applicants and temporary transfer applicants intending to operate an establishment. In addition to licence holders, all managers, servers of beverage alcohol and security staff must hold Smart Serve certificates.
Stadium licensees, their managers, servers and security staff
Course marshals and employees dispensing liquor from vending carts on golf courses that hold a Golf Course Endorsement
Holders of Caterer's Endorsements and servers and security staff working at catered events
Where ordered by the AGCO (i.e. disciplinary cases)
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