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Stringer
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:28:03 PM

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NEM99 wrote:
reptilemk4 wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Lol,
My school has absolutely no preventitive strategies.
You can go to the washroom whenever you like without a supervisor.
They do NOT reset your calculator.
For most teachers you can use a graphing calculator. (I know kids who programmed entire english essay paragraphs into there)
You can listen to music for most tests (record info and play it back to yourself lol)


For a chem test I found the multiple choice answers to 5 minutes before the test I plugged them into my calc as A=5 B=4 C=3 D=2 E=1 and was the ONLY person in the test with a CALCULATOR LOL.


...or u could just write them on a sheet of paper...darn rich people and their graphing calculators ...ya at my school theres a personal electronics ban, so no one can listen to music, but i heard people used to do that, or have information on their ipods and scrolled through it during a test (b4 the ban). honestly for the most part teachers dont care...

i had a bell ringer for exercise science like 2 weeks ago...id say about half the class had a cheat sheet with the answers from last semester (the teacher keeps the bell ringer the same as last semesteR) and the other half were just copying off anyone next to them


I wouldn't say graphing calculators are for "rich people". They're like $120 and required for high school. At least at my high school.


They're required? For what? I took Calc and Discrete and I never owned a graphing calculator.

-Stringer
NEM99
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:30:10 PM
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Location: Alberta
Stringer wrote:
NEM99 wrote:
reptilemk4 wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Lol,
My school has absolutely no preventitive strategies.
You can go to the washroom whenever you like without a supervisor.
They do NOT reset your calculator.
For most teachers you can use a graphing calculator. (I know kids who programmed entire english essay paragraphs into there)
You can listen to music for most tests (record info and play it back to yourself lol)


For a chem test I found the multiple choice answers to 5 minutes before the test I plugged them into my calc as A=5 B=4 C=3 D=2 E=1 and was the ONLY person in the test with a CALCULATOR LOL.


...or u could just write them on a sheet of paper...darn rich people and their graphing calculators ...ya at my school theres a personal electronics ban, so no one can listen to music, but i heard people used to do that, or have information on their ipods and scrolled through it during a test (b4 the ban). honestly for the most part teachers dont care...

i had a bell ringer for exercise science like 2 weeks ago...id say about half the class had a cheat sheet with the answers from last semester (the teacher keeps the bell ringer the same as last semesteR) and the other half were just copying off anyone next to them


I wouldn't say graphing calculators are for "rich people". They're like $120 and required for high school. At least at my high school.


They're required? For what? I took Calc and Discrete and I never owned a graphing calculator.


Maybe we are thinking about different things?

They're required in calc for integrating functions that can't be done manually. And in grade 12 for the whole graphing unit we have.. Where we graph functions on our calculator and such. I'm sure i've needed it for many other things.

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Redrose27
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:34:51 PM

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for ap calc at my school i'm pretty sure it's mandatory or 'suggested' enough that everyone buys them. for regular u level calc we use them and a few people have them but they're usually supplied by the school
bausman480
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:40:58 PM

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Location: ON, Canada
NEM99 wrote:
Stringer wrote:
NEM99 wrote:
reptilemk4 wrote:
scarboro wrote:
Lol,
My school has absolutely no preventitive strategies.
You can go to the washroom whenever you like without a supervisor.
They do NOT reset your calculator.
For most teachers you can use a graphing calculator. (I know kids who programmed entire english essay paragraphs into there)
You can listen to music for most tests (record info and play it back to yourself lol)


For a chem test I found the multiple choice answers to 5 minutes before the test I plugged them into my calc as A=5 B=4 C=3 D=2 E=1 and was the ONLY person in the test with a CALCULATOR LOL.


...or u could just write them on a sheet of paper...darn rich people and their graphing calculators ...ya at my school theres a personal electronics ban, so no one can listen to music, but i heard people used to do that, or have information on their ipods and scrolled through it during a test (b4 the ban). honestly for the most part teachers dont care...

i had a bell ringer for exercise science like 2 weeks ago...id say about half the class had a cheat sheet with the answers from last semester (the teacher keeps the bell ringer the same as last semesteR) and the other half were just copying off anyone next to them


I wouldn't say graphing calculators are for "rich people". They're like $120 and required for high school. At least at my high school.


They're required? For what? I took Calc and Discrete and I never owned a graphing calculator.


Maybe we are thinking about different things?

They're required in calc for integrating functions that can't be done manually. And in grade 12 for the whole graphing unit we have.. Where we graph functions on our calculator and such. I'm sure i've needed it for many other things.


Neither my normal school or my private school requires a graphing calculator for calc. The graphing unit is done by hand, and we don't look at too many crazy functions. Integration is not taught at the high school level (at least at the two schools that I know of).

Schulich BBA 2012
NEM99
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:42:40 PM
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bausman480 wrote:
Neither my normal school or my private school requires a graphing calculator for calc. The graphing unit is done by hand, and we don't look at too many crazy functions. Integration is not taught at the high school level (at least at the two schools that I know of).


...What king of calculus are they teaching?

Do you just learn derivative stuff?

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scarboro
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:46:58 PM
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NEM99 wrote:
bausman480 wrote:
Neither my normal school or my private school requires a graphing calculator for calc. The graphing unit is done by hand, and we don't look at too many crazy functions. Integration is not taught at the high school level (at least at the two schools that I know of).


...What king of calculus are they teaching?

Do you just learn derivative stuff?

I don't know what bausman's school is like but Integrals are more an an ENTIRE UNIT and we don't use graphing calculators but we use Winplot on computers (our class is a computer lab). Derivatives are also a bit challenging once you mix a few logarithmic functions with any trig function and throw in some radicals/chain rule + power rule 5 times over.

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NEM99
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:52:53 PM
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scarboro wrote:
NEM99 wrote:
bausman480 wrote:
Neither my normal school or my private school requires a graphing calculator for calc. The graphing unit is done by hand, and we don't look at too many crazy functions. Integration is not taught at the high school level (at least at the two schools that I know of).


...What king of calculus are they teaching?

Do you just learn derivative stuff?

I don't know what bausman's school is like but Integrals are more an an ENTIRE UNIT and we don't use graphing calculators but we use Winplot on computers (our class is a computer lab). Derivatives are also a bit challenging once you mix a few logarithmic functions with any trig function and throw in some radicals/chain rule + power rule 5 times over.


yeah i know.. I spent half the course on integral calculus. haha those aren't that hard. Its when you all of a sudden have to apply all your knowledge to some retarded oil spill question.. Or this bogus top curve minus bottom curve question that was supposedly the surface of a lake. Depth given by 3-x. Find volume..

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reptilemk4
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:41:28 PM

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in my school IB people are required to buy graphing calculators, the rest of us are supplier with them when we do a chapter with a graphing calculator, and then hand them back

UTM - Commerce '12
bausman480
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:38:49 PM

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NEM99 wrote:
scarboro wrote:
NEM99 wrote:
bausman480 wrote:
Neither my normal school or my private school requires a graphing calculator for calc. The graphing unit is done by hand, and we don't look at too many crazy functions. Integration is not taught at the high school level (at least at the two schools that I know of).


...What king of calculus are they teaching?

Do you just learn derivative stuff?

I don't know what bausman's school is like but Integrals are more an an ENTIRE UNIT and we don't use graphing calculators but we use Winplot on computers (our class is a computer lab). Derivatives are also a bit challenging once you mix a few logarithmic functions with any trig function and throw in some radicals/chain rule + power rule 5 times over.


yeah i know.. I spent half the course on integral calculus. haha those aren't that hard. Its when you all of a sudden have to apply all your knowledge to some retarded oil spill question.. Or this bogus top curve minus bottom curve question that was supposedly the surface of a lake. Depth given by 3-x. Find volume..


Yeah, all we do is derivatives, limits, related rates and optimization, and then vectors. "Antiderivatives are not in the curriculum so i'm not teaching them" is what says my private school teacher, and so do the teachers in my day school. I go to a standard york catholic district school board high school.

Believe me, i've asked a million times over whether we could have even just a bit of an introduction to integration, but nooo. "not in the curriculum". Bah. Screwing us over for uni.

Could this be geographical? which province/city are you guys all from? I'm in ontario, woodbridge (just above toronto).



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NEM99
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:41:35 PM
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Weird. Thats stupid. Your teachers probably don't even understand them. hah.

I'm from Calgary Alberta.
Of all the great education system we have here we don't learn math vectors at all.
Only basic physics vectors.

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bausman480
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:45:31 PM

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NEM99 wrote:
Weird. Thats stupid. Your teachers probably don't even understand them. hah.

I'm from Calgary Alberta.
Of all the great education system we have here we don't learn math vectors at all.
Only basic physics vectors.


we've got good teachers that could teach it, just they don't want to since its not in the curriculum, and most classes are behind anyways. no extra time = no extra stuff. frown

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teapartiesarefun
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:04:23 PM

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NEM99 wrote:
Weird. Thats stupid. Your teachers probably don't even understand them. hah.

I'm from Calgary Alberta.
Of all the great education system we have here we don't learn math vectors at all.
Only basic physics vectors.


WOOT COWTOWN big grin

Math/CA Waterloo '13
NEM99
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:11:56 PM
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bausman480 wrote:
NEM99 wrote:
Weird. Thats stupid. Your teachers probably don't even understand them. hah.

I'm from Calgary Alberta.
Of all the great education system we have here we don't learn math vectors at all.
Only basic physics vectors.


we've got good teachers that could teach it, just they don't want to since its not in the curriculum, and most classes are behind anyways. no extra time = no extra stuff. frown


How can they fill an entire semester of just derivative stuff and limits? At least you'll understand it really good. hah.

and annie. Hell yes. Calgary Rules. I'll be sad to leave in August.

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mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:48:28 PM
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Don't you (Ontario) kids have to take (at least) two grade 12 math courses to get into university nowadays?

Calculus used to be one course for us... I would have thought with it being split into those two courses that you would learn more in them (e.g. at least starting intervals). Apparently not?

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bausman480
Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:18:57 AM

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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
Don't you (Ontario) kids have to take (at least) two grade 12 math courses to get into university nowadays?

Calculus used to be one course for us... I would have thought with it being split into those two courses that you would learn more in them (e.g. at least starting intervals). Apparently not?


The first course is advanced functions - you don't even touch calc in there. its basically a review of grade 11. You learn all the functions all over again. I think the only new thing you do is logarithms.
The second course is called Introductory Calculus and Vectors, which I already described.

I have a feeling i'll be greatly disadvantaged when i come to uni, since all of you guys have all this exposure to stuff that they're refusing to teach us...

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reptilemk4
Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:55:25 AM

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NEM99 wrote:
How can they fill an entire semester of just derivative stuff and limits? At least you'll understand it really good. hah.


OMG thats exactly what i was thinging, (well it was half the semester, and the other half is vectors) but during the calculus part i kept wishing we would learn something new...and it was like..k so were doing derivatives...now logarithmic derivatives worry ...now trigonometric derivatives worry ...now u put them all together in application questions frown exclamation gg lol good thing thats over now on to vectors

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teapartiesarefun
Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:27:47 PM

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derivatives/limits were two units for us....weird

Math/CA Waterloo '13
bausman480
Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:35:35 PM

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I gotta admit, I thought I had no negative feelings about cheating, but...
After relying on this one guy's answers to the multiple choice part of our physics tests (three times now, and i always got it wrong when i disagreed with him), i'm getting kind of like a weird feeling...

Sure i feel better knowing that I cheated but having a higher mark than I would feel if I didn't cheat and had a bit of a lower mark. But I dunno. Its kind of weird. My ego hurts, lol, like i'm not good enough. Like I need to rely on his answers because i can't do it myself. We wrote another test today, and for 3 of the multiple choice questions I didn't even bother reading them (I was running out of time), just put down his answers.

Although in my defense I'm not the only person who cheats off him, and there's no way I'd be moral enough not to look at his very-easy-to-see scantron. I mean come on... who throws away an opportunity like that? xD

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alliyah2090
Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:43:16 PM

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in mi school everyone has a graphing calculators
its like MANDATORY



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MatthewAlexander
Posted: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:42:45 PM
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our valedictorian is solely based on marks and my girlfriend beat me by 0.7 % frown haha

Queen's Commerce '12


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