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Stringer wrote:malilini wrote:fleurdelacour wrote:Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work! Which part of "spending 8 hours per day every day with little brats or, worse, adolescents" sounds easy? I applaud them  The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work... You couldn't be more wrong about "take home work." I would know from experience. This past year I did a teaching co-op. Let me tell you, it definitely caused me to appreciate my teachers a little bit more. I did my co-op with a grade 8 teacher. She had her homeroom class and then she had the other grade 8 class that she taught a few rotary subjects to. She and the other teacher taught Math and English to their own students. Grammar/Spelling was divided into two levels, one teacher taught the advanced level, and the other taught the basic level. For Gym, she taught all the girls (Both Classes) and the other taught all the boys. She also taught her students and the other kids from the other class, History, Drama, Art and Health, while the other teacher taught all of the kids, Science, Geography and Music. These 'Spare' Periods you speak of were 40 minutes long! That isn't much time in the grand scheme of things. On any given day, there could be 30 math tests (3 pages each), 60 History tests, remember she teaches both classes (3 pages in length each) And photocopying to do. Marking and recording math tests can take a good hour. Photocopying, depending on the amount and how creative it needs to be can take longer. And don't even tell me that she could be marking while students are working, as most of the work first needs the teacher's direction and/or supervision, and what kind of a teacher would she be if she just wrote down what the students were to do at the beginning of the day, and didn't say a word, and sat behind her desk marking and planning? Not to mention these students are grade 8's and typically need a teacher to supervise them 24/7. She also had several students in her class that had IEP's. This would also require her to adjust lesson plans to suit their learning styles and capabilities. She also heads student council and organizes everything having to do with it. In Short, the days events may include (But are not limited to): Deal with student issues, plan trips, organize events, mark each students work, collect grades from the other teacher, discuss lesson plans with the other teacher regarding English and Math, discuss certain students, contact various presentors, particularly for Health Education, Hold Student Council meetings, photocopy, staff meetings, update and revise lesson plans, create new lesson plans, decorating the class room with bulletin boards, word walls, pictures, lunch duty, creating each days agenda, keeping track of homework completion, contact parents, prepare for report cards (You may think that in the few days leading up to receiving your report card, the teacher simply did it then, No, when one report card comes out, they already start preparing for the next one) It was not uncommon for my supervisor to come in to work at 6:30 am, two and a half hours before school even began, and before she even started to get paid! It was also not uncommon for her two stay an hour or two after school ended. And from talking to other teachers this is not uncommon, and it's also not uncommon for them to be marking papers on an airplane while on a winter vacation with their families. Yes, they do get summers off, but they do not get paid in full what they normally would. Many of them do not spend it lying around all day either. Most teach summer school, and others enrol in courses to assist in their teaching abilities. Not to mention, if they will not be teaching the same grade and/or subject, they are busy preparing a whole new set of lessons, to suit the grade level for the next year. March Break, is mainly spent getting report cards ready, from my supervisor's opinion. They have three report cards each year...One close to the winter break, one at the end of March, and a final one at the end of the school year. I would say that middle school and elementary school teachers have it the worst. Just because they need to teach and organize several subjects all taking place concurrently. ( only the middle schools where one teacher is required to be a 'generalist' of sorts. I know some middle schools have different teachers for every subject). In high school ( a semestered system which is what I am used to) They teach 3 classes (not always different, depending on course demand) and have one period spare which is 75 minutes long. Second semester they again only teach 3 classes. My supervisor (who is retiring next year) has seen so many new teachers, particuarly elementary school teachers struggle, simply because of work demand. Several of whom have quit their jobs because of the stress and work load. It's difficult for new teachers, as they have to plan everything from scratch. An experienced teacher, will have their lesson plans and work sheet copies from previous years to ease the workload a bit. My supervisor and many other teachers whom I was required to interview, all pretty much agreed that their one regret about becoming a teacher, was the fact that so much of the work that goes into what you do everyday when you come to class, is done behind the scenes, at home, and before or after hours. They regret it, because it does tend to interfere with their family life.
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^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' awesome pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55.
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs.
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They own something like 40% of MLSE (which includes the Maple Leafs and the Raptors).
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alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:malilini wrote:fleurdelacour wrote:Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work! Which part of "spending 8 hours per day every day with little brats or, worse, adolescents" sounds easy? I applaud them The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work... You couldn't be more wrong about "take home work." I would know from experience. This past year I did a teaching co-op. Let me tell you, it definitely caused me to appreciate my teachers a little bit more. I did my co-op with a grade 8 teacher. She had her homeroom class and then she had the other grade 8 class that she taught a few rotary subjects to. She and the other teacher taught Math and English to their own students. Grammar/Spelling was divided into two levels, one teacher taught the advanced level, and the other taught the basic level. For Gym, she taught all the girls (Both Classes) and the other taught all the boys. She also taught her students and the other kids from the other class, History, Drama, Art and Health, while the other teacher taught all of the kids, Science, Geography and Music. These 'Spare' Periods you speak of were 40 minutes long! That isn't much time in the grand scheme of things. On any given day, there could be 30 math tests (3 pages each), 60 History tests, remember she teaches both classes (3 pages in length each) And photocopying to do. Marking and recording math tests can take a good hour. Photocopying, depending on the amount and how creative it needs to be can take longer. And don't even tell me that she could be marking while students are working, as most of the work first needs the teacher's direction and/or supervision, and what kind of a teacher would she be if she just wrote down what the students were to do at the beginning of the day, and didn't say a word, and sat behind her desk marking and planning? Not to mention these students are grade 8's and typically need a teacher to supervise them 24/7. She also had several students in her class that had IEP's. This would also require her to adjust lesson plans to suit their learning styles and capabilities. She also heads student council and organizes everything having to do with it. In Short, the days events may include (But are not limited to): Deal with student issues, plan trips, organize events, mark each students work, collect grades from the other teacher, discuss lesson plans with the other teacher regarding English and Math, discuss certain students, contact various presentors, particularly for Health Education, Hold Student Council meetings, photocopy, staff meetings, update and revise lesson plans, create new lesson plans, decorating the class room with bulletin boards, word walls, pictures, lunch duty, creating each days agenda, keeping track of homework completion, contact parents, prepare for report cards (You may think that in the few days leading up to receiving your report card, the teacher simply did it then, No, when one report card comes out, they already start preparing for the next one) It was not uncommon for my supervisor to come in to work at 6:30 am, two and a half hours before school even began, and before she even started to get paid! It was also not uncommon for her two stay an hour or two after school ended. And from talking to other teachers this is not uncommon, and it's also not uncommon for them to be marking papers on an airplane while on a winter vacation with their families. Yes, they do get summers off, but they do not get paid in full what they normally would. Many of them do not spend it lying around all day either. Most teach summer school, and others enrol in courses to assist in their teaching abilities. Not to mention, if they will not be teaching the same grade and/or subject, they are busy preparing a whole new set of lessons, to suit the grade level for the next year. March Break, is mainly spent getting report cards ready, from my supervisor's opinion. They have three report cards each year...One close to the winter break, one at the end of March, and a final one at the end of the school year. I would say that middle school and elementary school teachers have it the worst. Just because they need to teach and organize several subjects all taking place concurrently. ( only the middle schools where one teacher is required to be a 'generalist' of sorts. I know some middle schools have different teachers for every subject). In high school ( a semestered system which is what I am used to) They teach 3 classes (not always different, depending on course demand) and have one period spare which is 75 minutes long. Second semester they again only teach 3 classes. My supervisor (who is retiring next year) has seen so many new teachers, particuarly elementary school teachers struggle, simply because of work demand. Several of whom have quit their jobs because of the stress and work load. It's difficult for new teachers, as they have to plan everything from scratch. An experienced teacher, will have their lesson plans and work sheet copies from previous years to ease the workload a bit. My supervisor and many other teachers whom I was required to interview, all pretty much agreed that their one regret about becoming a teacher, was the fact that so much of the work that goes into what you do everyday when you come to class, is done behind the scenes, at home, and before or after hours. They regret it, because it does tend to interfere with their family life. So they have to spend a couple hours every few weeks marking tests or assignments...they have free time every day. Hence why teachers generally don't return things for a week or so. Preparation is minimal as well, especially once you have a taught a class before. The material is all standardized and the materials are in textbooks or premade. As for extracurriculars, those are completely optional and up to the teacher whether they want to do them or not. It's no different than an accountant choosing to coach his son's hockey team. I'm not saying teaching is "easy", I'm just saying in terms of time commitment is one of the most favourable jobs. It has many fringe benefits as opposed to the careers most people will get into.
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Stringer wrote:alys98 wrote:Stringer wrote:malilini wrote:fleurdelacour wrote:Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work! Which part of "spending 8 hours per day every day with little brats or, worse, adolescents" sounds easy? I applaud them The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work... You couldn't be more wrong about "take home work." I would know from experience. This past year I did a teaching co-op. Let me tell you, it definitely caused me to appreciate my teachers a little bit more. I did my co-op with a grade 8 teacher. She had her homeroom class and then she had the other grade 8 class that she taught a few rotary subjects to. She and the other teacher taught Math and English to their own students. Grammar/Spelling was divided into two levels, one teacher taught the advanced level, and the other taught the basic level. For Gym, she taught all the girls (Both Classes) and the other taught all the boys. She also taught her students and the other kids from the other class, History, Drama, Art and Health, while the other teacher taught all of the kids, Science, Geography and Music. These 'Spare' Periods you speak of were 40 minutes long! That isn't much time in the grand scheme of things. On any given day, there could be 30 math tests (3 pages each), 60 History tests, remember she teaches both classes (3 pages in length each) And photocopying to do. Marking and recording math tests can take a good hour. Photocopying, depending on the amount and how creative it needs to be can take longer. And don't even tell me that she could be marking while students are working, as most of the work first needs the teacher's direction and/or supervision, and what kind of a teacher would she be if she just wrote down what the students were to do at the beginning of the day, and didn't say a word, and sat behind her desk marking and planning? Not to mention these students are grade 8's and typically need a teacher to supervise them 24/7. She also had several students in her class that had IEP's. This would also require her to adjust lesson plans to suit their learning styles and capabilities. She also heads student council and organizes everything having to do with it. In Short, the days events may include (But are not limited to): Deal with student issues, plan trips, organize events, mark each students work, collect grades from the other teacher, discuss lesson plans with the other teacher regarding English and Math, discuss certain students, contact various presentors, particularly for Health Education, Hold Student Council meetings, photocopy, staff meetings, update and revise lesson plans, create new lesson plans, decorating the class room with bulletin boards, word walls, pictures, lunch duty, creating each days agenda, keeping track of homework completion, contact parents, prepare for report cards (You may think that in the few days leading up to receiving your report card, the teacher simply did it then, No, when one report card comes out, they already start preparing for the next one) It was not uncommon for my supervisor to come in to work at 6:30 am, two and a half hours before school even began, and before she even started to get paid! It was also not uncommon for her two stay an hour or two after school ended. And from talking to other teachers this is not uncommon, and it's also not uncommon for them to be marking papers on an airplane while on a winter vacation with their families. Yes, they do get summers off, but they do not get paid in full what they normally would. Many of them do not spend it lying around all day either. Most teach summer school, and others enrol in courses to assist in their teaching abilities. Not to mention, if they will not be teaching the same grade and/or subject, they are busy preparing a whole new set of lessons, to suit the grade level for the next year. March Break, is mainly spent getting report cards ready, from my supervisor's opinion. They have three report cards each year...One close to the winter break, one at the end of March, and a final one at the end of the school year. I would say that middle school and elementary school teachers have it the worst. Just because they need to teach and organize several subjects all taking place concurrently. ( only the middle schools where one teacher is required to be a 'generalist' of sorts. I know some middle schools have different teachers for every subject). In high school ( a semestered system which is what I am used to) They teach 3 classes (not always different, depending on course demand) and have one period spare which is 75 minutes long. Second semester they again only teach 3 classes. My supervisor (who is retiring next year) has seen so many new teachers, particuarly elementary school teachers struggle, simply because of work demand. Several of whom have quit their jobs because of the stress and work load. It's difficult for new teachers, as they have to plan everything from scratch. An experienced teacher, will have their lesson plans and work sheet copies from previous years to ease the workload a bit. My supervisor and many other teachers whom I was required to interview, all pretty much agreed that their one regret about becoming a teacher, was the fact that so much of the work that goes into what you do everyday when you come to class, is done behind the scenes, at home, and before or after hours. They regret it, because it does tend to interfere with their family life. So they have to spend a couple hours every few weeks marking tests or assignments...they have free time every day. Hence why teachers generally don't return things for a week or so. Preparation is minimal as well, especially once you have a taught a class before. The material is all standardized and the materials are in textbooks or premade. As for extracurriculars, those are completely optional and up to the teacher whether they want to do them or not. It's no different than an accountant choosing to coach his son's hockey team. I'm not saying teaching is "easy", I'm just saying in terms of time commitment is one of the most favourable jobs. It has many fringe benefits as opposed to the careers most people will get into. It takes a couple of days to hand things back because they have so much else to do! particularly for middle school and elementary school teachers, 40 minutes a day, isn't exactly what I call 'lots of free time.' Things change constantly every year, and yes, since my supervisor had taught grade 8 for several years, she had perfected her schedule, in terms of teaching math and english, but in the past two years, they got rid of the third grade 8 class, meaning she had to take on a new rotary subject, which required locating and applying new information, and creating new lesson plans. Also don't forget, that when the cirriculum changes, they must change and revise lesson plans to suit it, they must also make information up to date, over time. Yes, there are the text books, but they also have to create their own work sheets. Not every subject has a student text book, particularly for grade 8, music/drama/art etc. I really don't think you would appreciate going to work, and then coming home and having to do a couple more hours of work? But you would do it if you loved your job. They make sacrifices into 'their' time. It's not 'free time.' it's time they could spent with their families, or getting work done outside of their work from their job. My supervisor does student council, because if she chose not to do it, there would be no one else to. It is optional, but I'm sure you would be groaning and complaining if your favourite sport team wasn't operating, because there were no teacher's to supervise it, or you didn't have dances and school events, because teachers weren't able to supervise the dances, or supervise student council and/or social committee who put together the dances and events. If a teacher refused to run a certain activity that you had your heart set on participating in, you would be mad, and blame the teacher for ruining it, because you feel that the teacher is obligated to do it. But when your here trying to convince everyone that teacher's don't have it as hard as any other job, it is so easy for you to say that they are not 'obligated' to these activities. Yet again, if they refused to coach a certain team you were interested in joining, you would be upset because you would feel as though they were obligated to it. You are making assumptions based on the fact that you dislike teachers for their so called 'summer vacations' and pensions. Are you a teacher? Have you ever been behind the scenes, or have actually spoke to a teacher? I'm sure if any of your old elementary/middle school teachers saw you writing this, they would regret ever staying up late to mark your test, just because several kids in the class whined about wanting them back, I'm sure they would regret ever wasting their time after school to help you out. You show no appreciation for the work that teachers do, and for the fact that without their help, you wouldn't be where you are today. Being a teacher isn't easy, and part of the reason it isn't easy, is because it does take a lot of prep time, and by prep time, I do mean beyond the 40 minutes that most elementary and middle school teachers are allocated each day. Again, I do think that high school teachers have it easier, just because they only have to focus on three classes, some of which are the same classes, or do repeat in the second semester. But all teachers do work hard, and it does require a lot of commitment, particularly outside of the classroom. I laugh when kids groan at the homework they get, teachers have homework too.
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bigbadsheep wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs. They do deserve to retire nicely. But their 'nice' retirement does not minimize, and should not over shadow how much work they actually have to do before their retirement, to get their nice pension at the end of it.
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alys98 wrote:bigbadsheep wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs. They do deserve to retire nicely. But their 'nice' retirement does not minimize, and should not over shadow how much work they actually have to do before their retirement, to get their nice pension at the end of it. I wasn't trying to minimize anything. I know it's a hard job, but at the high school level, especially senior level U/M social science/arts courses, it's not that difficult. After you teach a subject for 5+ years things become repetitive and you know the majority of information, after 10-15+ it's usually committed to memory. The one teaching position in high school I would say is somewhat difficult would be a science or math teacher, because things can change more quickly as opposed to other fields, and therefore they need to keep relatively aware of their field. Also if teacher's play it right, and save up their sick days etc, they can take the year before they retire off and still get paid. I know two teachers who did that, one who could of but didn't feel it was morally right,and another teachers that's counting down the years, because he's in a position to do that lol, IMO that's awesome.
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Good teachers spend lots of time preparing. Bad teachers may be able to get away with minimal prep after they've taught the course once or twice. I'd argue it's some of the social science stuff like World Issues that changes the fastest. Then again I never took much of those in high school, and the first thing I think of when I think of World Issues is my friend telling me that her teacher stuck to his planned lesson as the planes crashed into the World Trade Center. That is, of course, beyond big curriculum changes. I encountered very few textbooks younger than 10 years old when I went through high school. You guys have ones that are newer simply due to timing. High school science classes aren't exactly keeping up with the latest discoveries (although I agree, a good teacher could work some of that into them). How often do you learn stuff in them discovered, let's say, since 1970? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but..
 
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Kaylya wrote:Good teachers spend lots of time preparing. Bad teachers may be able to get away with minimal prep after they've taught the course once or twice.
I'd argue it's some of the social science stuff like World Issues that changes the fastest. Then again I never took much of those in high school, and the first thing I think of when I think of World Issues is my friend telling me that her teacher stuck to his planned lesson as the planes crashed into the World Trade Center. That is, of course, beyond big curriculum changes. I encountered very few textbooks younger than 10 years old when I went through high school. You guys have ones that are newer simply due to timing.
High school science classes aren't exactly keeping up with the latest discoveries (although I agree, a good teacher could work some of that into them). How often do you learn stuff in them discovered, let's say, since 1970? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but.. How much of stuff discovered since 1970 is important to building a fundamental understanding of biology, chemistry, or physics?
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alys98 wrote:It takes a couple of days to hand things back because they have so much else to do! particularly for middle school and elementary school teachers, 40 minutes a day, isn't exactly what I call 'lots of free time.' Things change constantly every year, and yes, since my supervisor had taught grade 8 for several years, she had perfected her schedule, in terms of teaching math and english, but in the past two years, they got rid of the third grade 8 class, meaning she had to take on a new rotary subject, which required locating and applying new information, and creating new lesson plans. Also don't forget, that when the cirriculum changes, they must change and revise lesson plans to suit it, they must also make information up to date, over time. Yes, there are the text books, but they also have to create their own work sheets. Not every subject has a student text book, particularly for grade 8, music/drama/art etc. I really don't think you would appreciate going to work, and then coming home and having to do a couple more hours of work? But you would do it if you loved your job. They make sacrifices into 'their' time. It's not 'free time.' it's time they could spent with their families, or getting work done outside of their work from their job.
My supervisor does student council, because if she chose not to do it, there would be no one else to. It is optional, but I'm sure you would be groaning and complaining if your favourite sport team wasn't operating, because there were no teacher's to supervise it, or you didn't have dances and school events, because teachers weren't able to supervise the dances, or supervise student council and/or social committee who put together the dances and events. If a teacher refused to run a certain activity that you had your heart set on participating in, you would be mad, and blame the teacher for ruining it, because you feel that the teacher is obligated to do it. But when your here trying to convince everyone that teacher's don't have it as hard as any other job, it is so easy for you to say that they are not 'obligated' to these activities. Yet again, if they refused to coach a certain team you were interested in joining, you would be upset because you would feel as though they were obligated to it.
You are making assumptions based on the fact that you dislike teachers for their so called 'summer vacations' and pensions.
Are you a teacher? Have you ever been behind the scenes, or have actually spoke to a teacher?
I'm sure if any of your old elementary/middle school teachers saw you writing this, they would regret ever staying up late to mark your test, just because several kids in the class whined about wanting them back, I'm sure they would regret ever wasting their time after school to help you out. You show no appreciation for the work that teachers do, and for the fact that without their help, you wouldn't be where you are today. Being a teacher isn't easy, and part of the reason it isn't easy, is because it does take a lot of prep time, and by prep time, I do mean beyond the 40 minutes that most elementary and middle school teachers are allocated each day.
Again, I do think that high school teachers have it easier, just because they only have to focus on three classes, some of which are the same classes, or do repeat in the second semester. But all teachers do work hard, and it does require a lot of commitment, particularly outside of the classroom. I laugh when kids groan at the homework they get, teachers have homework too.
Like I said, I would bet that most teachers work less time than most other jobs. They have tons of vacation and generally only teach part of the day, using the other part of the day to plan and mark. You can make the same argument about any volunteer. Would I be pissed off if a sports team didn't run in school because a teacher didn't volunteer? Sure, but most of the sports teams I was on in high school weren't even run by teachers in the first place. Would you be pissed off if you tried to join recreational soccer in the summer but couldn't because nobody volunteered to coach? It's not a job requirement for teachers to run after-school problems, just like it's not a requirement for parents to coach sports. I dislike teachers based on their summer vacations and pensions? Where did I ever say that? I simply said that they have more vacation than 99% of working people. I never commented on their pensions and that is not relevant to this topic at all. I have graduated high school. I have helped a teacher setup her class for the year. I have talked to many of my teachers and I know what goes into it. Again, I'm not saying being a teacher is easy. I'm just saying it is a job with a lot of fringe benefits and a lot of vacation time.
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bigbadsheep wrote:codyhotel wrote: but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students. OOOOOOKAY, definitely crossed the line on that one. Not only is there an 18 year age difference, the fact that he was her teacher. *shudder*  they didn't start dating until 2 years after she graduated, so it wasn't that bad. the younger teacher started dating the other student about 8 months after grad, so it was actually worse even though he didn't teach her at all.
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codyhotel wrote:bigbadsheep wrote:codyhotel wrote: but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students. OOOOOOKAY, definitely crossed the line on that one. Not only is there an 18 year age difference, the fact that he was her teacher. *shudder* they didn't start dating until 2 years after she graduated, so it wasn't that bad. the younger teacher started dating the other student about 8 months after grad, so it was actually worse even though he didn't teach her at all. IMO that's still pretty gross.
UWO '12 Social Science
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 6/23/2008
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Why not? Teachers are people, too. As with everything, Facebook started with the young university crowd and will soon get older and older, and at one point, it will have more older people than younger, and other sites will be there for younger people.
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Rank: Valedictorian
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Joined: 3/5/2008
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Location: Kingston and Toronto
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I miss when it used to be just university/college students. 
Uschi Queen's '10
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Rank: Frosh
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Joined: 4/1/2008
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Location: Vancouver
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Facebook should def be for students only. There are so many applications that are so useless and its not as if there are no alternatives. I personally hate Myspace but there are other options and if not, one can always be created.
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