|
|
Rank: Senior Student
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/10/2008
Posts: 67
|
Who knew?! I kid, I kid. So, I was just browsing through Facebook doing my homework for tomorrow, and went sort of off-tangent on an exploration of other people's contacts. (Do people do that, or am I a stalker?). Ten minutes later, while scrolling down a friend's contact list, I see this display picture with three ladies, mid-thirties, obviously having a ball. They seem familiar, so I look closer and I know the last name of the person sounds familiar. Few minutes of staring later, I realize my math, theatre, and music teachers are amidst something resembling a drinking binge, and *gasp* one of them has a Facebook profile. To stalk even more, I look at her friends and find 3/4 of my schools faculty on there. Now, I'm utterly confused as I'm trying to digest the fact that these people have real lives outside of their classrooms. Do you guys also forget about that fact every once in a while (read: all the time)? It's difficult thinking of the calculus-monster as a guy who at the same time has a family and a really pretty wife (the stalking was clearly fruitful) and probably a myriad of other things to do in life next to teaching us calc. And, on another note, do you believe that teachers should maintain some form of a traditional persona on the Internet? While most of the teach's I saw there were pretty decent, there was a sociology teacher in swimshorts in a pool hugging his equally poorly dressed girlfriend; another math teacher in a rather inappropriate position; and a few others controversial ones. Most of us, obviously, think it's okay when students are sexually suggestive in their profiles, but does the same go for teachers, especially when there is a high chance that his/her students will bump into the profile? It depends very much on the student, but really, high school students are not known for their maturity. Would like to know your opinions 
|
|
Rank: Student Council
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 451
Location: London (UWO)
|
Facebook should be for post-secondary students only... just like it used to be. None of this myspace pedo, cheap stalker BS.
Honours BMSc Specialization in Medical Science UWO '09
Bachelor of Pharmacy Alberta '13 ???
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
Teaching is a job, it's not their life. Why does it matter if they have Facebook? I know teachers at my school who added students while they were still in school (kinda unprofessional IMO), but now that they've moved on to post-sec, it's a good way to stay in touch. I've added teachers and coaches, it's not really a big deal.
If it affects you that much don't stalk your friends and your friends' friends?
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
Rank: Student Body President
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 1,711
Location: Wilfrid Laurier University
|
If you leave your profile open to be viewed by anybody, you are setting yourself up for problems. Set it to private.
-Stringer
|
|
Rank: Senior Student
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/10/2008
Posts: 67
|
bigbadsheep wrote:
If it affects you that much don't stalk your friends and your friends' friends?
I colourfully embellished a large part of my "affectness". I, personally, don't care. I'm done with them in a month anyways. Not good taking things too literally, particularly on a forum My point was simply that we often forget about the "realness" of teachers. We get too caught-up in thinking about all the evil term-papers, tests, and assignments they give us, to be able to give them some human characteristics. It's just one of those things in life that fly over your head all the time.
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
^ LOL I was just going by the information you had provided.
Anyway, I know what you mean. Like with my coaches, its weird having them on my friends list and then going to a practice and having them yell at me lol.
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/7/2008
Posts: 510
Location: Newmarket
|
My teacher has been away for 2 weeks because her mother is dying and she might go soon. soo that made us think.
Also I am buddies with a teacher =P He invited me to a concert once and a hockey game. He just had a kid so yeah some teachers are awesome and have lifes
YORK; Honors Arts - History Major/German minor? '12
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/6/2008
Posts: 552
Location: Kitchener, ON.
|
I don't understand what the problem is. People always have lives outside of being managers, students, teachers, musicians, salesmen, and volunteers, so your shock about teachers having lives isn't a valid one.
Carleton University Class of 2012, Honours Bachelor of Arts
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
D.Dickin wrote:I don't understand what the problem is. People always have lives outside of being managers, students, teachers, musicians, salesmen, and volunteers, so your shock about teachers having lives isn't a valid one. It's because of the position that you hold teachers in as compared to other professions. Yes, it's just another job, but to their students, a teacher is a person in authority who we rarely see outside of that position, so we fall into thinking that they are like that 24/7 since it's all we know about them. I'm not going to say I wasn't a bit shocked when I went back to visit my high school a couple weeks after I left, and one of my teachers who I talked to alot in school told me to give him a call when I get back in town from university next September and we'd go out for a few beers and talk about uni life and stresses lol.
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
Rank: Senior Student
Groups: Member
Joined: 4/24/2008
Posts: 101
|
Teachers letting too much of their private life become public on the net are really kinda just asking for trouble.. we've all read stories of the teacher getting sacked over this or that... it always catches up to you.. its not like they really NEED to have facebook, but if they would like it, they should just use prudence when deciding what image to display.. especially when $30 000 /year depends on it...
|
|
Rank: Student Body President
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 1,711
Location: Wilfrid Laurier University
|
gundam501 wrote:Teachers letting too much of their private life become public on the net are really kinda just asking for trouble.. we've all read stories of the teacher getting sacked over this or that... it always catches up to you.. its not like they really NEED to have facebook, but if they would like it, they should just use prudence when deciding what image to display.. especially when $30 000 /year depends on it... $30,000/year? I don't know much about teacher salaries but if that is true...wow being a teacher is terrible.
-Stringer
|
|
Rank: Senior Student
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 130
Location: Canada
|
all I can say is rofl.
Wordsworth
|
|
Rank: Frosh
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/25/2008
Posts: 38
Location: Gimli
|
When my brother was in grade twelve the high school got a new teacher who had just got out of uni, so he was like 23 i think, they all hung out with him outside of the school, went to the bar, I went to a concert with him once. He's actually getting married to one of my bro's friends at the end of this month, he never actually taught her in a class, but its still kind of weird. but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students. but hes like the coolest guy ever, so its okay. whenever we see him outside of school we hang out.
I'm great friends with a bunch of our teachers in and out of school, makes life easier.
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
codyhotel wrote: but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students. OOOOOOKAY, definitely crossed the line on that one. Not only is there an 18 year age difference, the fact that he was her teacher. *shudder* 
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
Rank: Senior Student
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/6/2008
Posts: 247
Location: Toronto
|
Yeah, Teachers are people too and if they want to have a facebook profile, it's really upto them. Hell, knowing that teachers can easily browse my profile doesn't stop me from having one.
McMaster '12!
|
|
Rank: Student Council
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 451
Location: London (UWO)
|
^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' awesome pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55.
Honours BMSc Specialization in Medical Science UWO '09
Bachelor of Pharmacy Alberta '13 ???
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs.
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
Rank: Student Council
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 451
Location: London (UWO)
|
They own something like 40% of MLSE (which includes the Maple Leafs and the Raptors).
Honours BMSc Specialization in Medical Science UWO '09
Bachelor of Pharmacy Alberta '13 ???
|
|
Rank: Student Council
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/5/2008
Posts: 393
Location: Paris, Ontario
|
bigbadsheep wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs. They do deserve to retire nicely. But their 'nice' retirement does not minimize, and should not over shadow how much work they actually have to do before their retirement, to get their nice pension at the end of it.
Success is not the key to happiness, happiness is the key to success. If you love what you do in life, you will be a success!!
|
|
Rank: Valedictorian
Groups: Member
Joined: 3/4/2008
Posts: 538
|
alys98 wrote:bigbadsheep wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ I think Stringer was referring to high school teachers. They have it pretty easy. With their spare period (75 minutes), they can get a lot of marking done. They can also get some marking done while the students are at work. Plus, they get done work at like 2 or 3, so any extracurricular stuff only fills up a 9-5 slot (on only a few days of the week). With some lesson planning and additional marking after school, I don't think too many teachers would put in any more than 45 hours a week.
One thing we are all forgetting about is the teachers' kick @ss pension plan. They can live comfortably by retiring at 55. Don't forget that some teachers get student teachers from university to help out with teaching, marking, prep etc during their placement term. And teachers do retire nicely. Doesn't the teacher's union have a minority ownership of Maple Leaf Sports or something? So they're retirement plan is being fuelled by revenue from the Raptors and Leafs. They do deserve to retire nicely. But their 'nice' retirement does not minimize, and should not over shadow how much work they actually have to do before their retirement, to get their nice pension at the end of it. I wasn't trying to minimize anything. I know it's a hard job, but at the high school level, especially senior level U/M social science/arts courses, it's not that difficult. After you teach a subject for 5+ years things become repetitive and you know the majority of information, after 10-15+ it's usually committed to memory. The one teaching position in high school I would say is somewhat difficult would be a science or math teacher, because things can change more quickly as opposed to other fields, and therefore they need to keep relatively aware of their field. Also if teacher's play it right, and save up their sick days etc, they can take the year before they retire off and still get paid. I know two teachers who did that, one who could of but didn't feel it was morally right,and another teachers that's counting down the years, because he's in a position to do that lol, IMO that's awesome.
UWO '12 Social Science
|
|
