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Legit
Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:29:40 PM
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Location: toronto
i thought grade 12 was going to be like the previous three years of high school.

i was wrong.

i applied to ryerson engineering, queens engineering. mcgill engneering. ottawa comm and carleton comm.

here are my marks

english-82
economics-92
west and the world-85
earth space science-80
advanced functions-59(got caught cheating on a test)
chem-74
physics-75
calc-72

right now i'm pissed, i know i could have done better, but its too late. i have very little faith that i am going to be accepted, so i have one choice and that is going back to school.

this is my question, anyone in toronto have any advice on schools (private or public) that offer math and science credits that are designed for "students to succeed"

should i go to summer school, or a semestered school next year, it is possible to apply for winter admission.
adozenfuries01
Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:37:54 PM
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ahh that sucs man, umm in my experience i would take either chem or physics in summer skool. generally you are usually guarunteed to get a 90 as long as u try in summer skool, this would help you if u dont like science. I think advanced function is really easy so just retake that again next year and put more effort into gettin an 80+ %. Really commin back could b a good thing, u could update all ur credit in one semester and then work until you get accepted to university. Goodluck either way

U of Guelph: Biological Sciences 2012
onestep
Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:38:22 PM
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Sorry to hear about that, grade twelve does get challenging but it's still possible to strive for what you want. You have to consider how much you really want this because the idea of it may sound great but if math and science aren't something that you enjoy then you shouldn't be taking them. The idea of working as an engineer may sound great but don't take something if you don't actually like the core subjects required for this particular career. However, if you do like these courses but find them difficult then you should probably do correspondence (booklets) or summer school because those are the best ways to get good marks.
Redrose27
Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:45:12 PM

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it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.
bigbadsheep
Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:56:03 PM

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Redrose27 wrote:
it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.

Sim Simma

As for going back, you can do no wrong. If you can, go to summer school, upgrade one of your science credits, then you can take Functions again in fifth year, and you should do better since you'll be somewhat at least vaguely familiar with the concepts.

UWO '12 Social Science
Shismo
Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:33:52 PM

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Location: Toronto
Legit wrote:
i thought grade 12 was going to be like the previous three years of high school.

i was wrong.

i applied to ryerson engineering, queens engineering. mcgill engneering. ottawa comm and carleton comm.

here are my marks

english-82
economics-92
west and the world-85
earth space science-80
advanced functions-59(got caught cheating on a test)
chem-74
physics-75
calc-72

right now i'm pissed, i know i could have done better, but its too late. i have very little faith that i am going to be accepted, so i have one choice and that is going back to school.

this is my question, anyone in toronto have any advice on schools (private or public) that offer math and science credits that are designed for "students to succeed"

should i go to summer school, or a semestered school next year, it is possible to apply for winter admission.
If you're looking for a private school where you pay for marks then what's going to happen when you reach university? Who are you going to pay there?


You can stay back an extra semester at a semestered school. Nothing wrong with that. Just remember that university, especially for engineering, is going to be harder and make sure its what you want to do...
GSP
Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:10:47 PM
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Redrose27 wrote:
it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.


If i remember correctly, wasn't it you who asked if they could boost up their marks through summer school?

Oh yeah, its good to see that cheaters don't prosper. Safe

headstrong
Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:16:15 PM

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take online summer school or night school and make up for these courses ASAP if you want to start uni in fall. Ryerson is pretty easy to get into, so I think you should have at least one acceptace =D

Life Sci '12 UTSG (Victoria college)
eco
Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:27:12 AM
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Legit wrote:
i thought grade 12 was going to be like the previous three years of high school.

i was wrong.

i applied to ryerson engineering, queens engineering. mcgill engneering. ottawa comm and carleton comm.

here are my marks

english-82
economics-92
west and the world-85
earth space science-80
advanced functions-59(got caught cheating on a test)
chem-74
physics-75
calc-72

right now i'm pissed, i know i could have done better, but its too late. i have very little faith that i am going to be accepted, so i have one choice and that is going back to school.

this is my question, anyone in toronto have any advice on schools (private or public) that offer math and science credits that are designed for "students to succeed"

should i go to summer school, or a semestered school next year, it is possible to apply for winter admission.


Now that you know the material, I'd strongly advise taking one more year of school, and doing adv. funct. AND/OR calc. in SUMMER SCHOOL, THIS SUMMER. You'll ace it if you try.

Are you good in english? If so, again, often eng. summer school might get you one hell of a mark... and if it doesnt, u can always take it next year!

If you're planning on engineering you NEED to take physics again, and do a bit better.

Other than that, take the min. course load (3 per sem.) and take all bird courses. Use the system to ur advantage. If you need eng., phys., and 2 maths, focus on those, and WRECKING 2 birds courese (make sure they're U/M)
eco
Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:28:15 AM
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GSP wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.


If i remember correctly, wasn't it you who asked if they could boost up their marks through summer school?

Oh yeah, its good to see that cheaters don't prosper. Safe




Is he wearing a condom on his head?
reptilemk4
Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:32:21 AM

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yeah i guess so..lol

UTM - Commerce '12
alys98
Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:45:48 AM
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Location: Paris, Ontario
Legit wrote:
i thought grade 12 was going to be like the previous three years of high school.

i was wrong.

i applied to ryerson engineering, queens engineering. mcgill engneering. ottawa comm and carleton comm.

here are my marks

english-82
economics-92
west and the world-85
earth space science-80
advanced functions-59(got caught cheating on a test)
chem-74
physics-75
calc-72

right now i'm pissed, i know i could have done better, but its too late. i have very little faith that i am going to be accepted, so i have one choice and that is going back to school.

this is my question, anyone in toronto have any advice on schools (private or public) that offer math and science credits that are designed for "students to succeed"



should i go to summer school, or a semestered school next year, it is possible to apply for winter admission.


Is Engineering something your really interested in? Or are you just applying to it because you think you're gonna make a lot of money doing it? Judging on your math and science marks, it doesn't really look like it.
Usually good marks reflect the fact that you are genuinely interested in a course, and work hard at succeeding in it (even if it may not seem like you are working that hard)
Bad marks often reflect a dislike for the course.
If you are genuinely interested in it, then I would recommend taking an extra year would be beneficial to boost your marks.

Success is not the key to happiness, happiness is the key to success. If you love what you do in life, you will be a success!!
alys98
Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:54:59 AM
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I would focus on your math and science courses. Your English mark is above 80%+, so don't bother retaking it, unless you know you can get a significantly higher mark. If not, just pay attention to getting those math and sciences 80%+, to even above 90%. I don't think your going to be able to avoid taking a fifth year. Taking an extra year isn't the worst thing in the world. I did it, and many people I know have done it. With fewer courses it will give you time to focus on your courses, it may also give you extra time to browse around for more scholarships, and maybe even have a part time job to save up more. It's not like your 'behind' your friends just because you are back for an extra year.

Success is not the key to happiness, happiness is the key to success. If you love what you do in life, you will be a success!!
whoa
Posted: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:30:21 PM

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I don't think your marks are bad AT ALL. Your top 6 average is 80.83[Phy+Calc+English+Eco+West+Earth]. So, don't worry you will get to Ryerson for sure. I'm surprised that you haven't gotten an offer yet
Redrose27
Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:00:11 AM

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GSP wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.


If i remember correctly, wasn't it you who asked if they could boost up their marks through summer school?

Oh yeah, its good to see that cheaters don't prosper. Safe



taking summer school isn't cheating. it takes work and is a legitimate method of obtaining a mark. not everyone who goes to summer school gets great marks anyway; it's a commitment (half your summer) and if it boosts your average you've put something into it. very different from someone outright cheating. i don't even see how you compare the two at all
Kaylya
Posted: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:46:07 AM

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You may still get accepted to some of your choices; in fact, I'd call it likely unless they are looking for a specific minimum mark in Adv. Functions. Your top 6 for an engineering program that requires English, the 2 maths, chem, physics, and one other is still 75.7%. If they just take the best math, it's 80%.

If not, look at the requirements for the programs (and perhaps some other engineering and/or commerce programs as well, to get a general sense). If you need a specific minimum mark in advanced functions for the sorts of programs you are looking at, or it's included in your admission average, sign up for it in summer school. If you just need to have the credit, and you feel you know the concepts reasonably well (i.e. you don't think taking adv functions again would help you for Calc) I'd take calculus, as it's your next lowest mark, required for both types of programs you are interested in, and probably the one the most people struggle with in university.

Meanwhile, OUAC will post a listing of programs with spaces available sometime in mid-late June or so. Keep an eye on that and apply for stuff off of that. I would say it's almost certain that by re-taking a key course in summer school you'd get in based on that. You can also consider applying out of province. The schools in Atlantic Canada are generally hungry for students.

With regards to winter admission - it does exist, but not for all programs. If you wanted to apply for it, it would either be on the basis of summer school or taking some online/correspondence courses, or possibly night school in the fall. The university winter semester starts before the first semester of high school ends, so that's not really an option.

Legit
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:06:37 PM
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update: just got into u of ottawa commerce, i am so unbelievably relived right now
Josh
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:42:59 PM
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Legit wrote:
update: just got into u of ottawa commerce, i am so unbelievably relived right now


congrats. are u set on engineering or is this a "i'll take wat i can get acceptance"

at least you know that you will not be forced to go bakc to high school. learn from your mistakes in university.
the best part is that you start with a clean slate!

UWO Biomed/Ivey '12
NEM99
Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:15:09 PM
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eco wrote:
GSP wrote:
Redrose27 wrote:
it's good to see that cheaters don't prosper. at least in this case.

sorry if i sound mean but i really can't stand cheating.


If i remember correctly, wasn't it you who asked if they could boost up their marks through summer school?

Oh yeah, its good to see that cheaters don't prosper. Safe




Is he wearing a condom on his head?


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Legit
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:09:17 PM
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Location: toronto
another offer from carlton in honors economics with co-op


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