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I got accepted from Waterloo-Life Science majoring in Biomedical Science -2000 enterance scholarship. McMaster-Life Science -4000 enterance scholarship. Toronto- Life Science Also, I got accepted from UW, Math/Chartered Accountancy. I really dont know what to choose from.. I want to go to UW life science because they have optometry program, but it seems like not many people know about waterloo life science..;; Is it really hard to sutdy Life Science?? 
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mattoilers wrote:Is it really hard to sutdy Life Science?? If you are able to comprehend some of the more complex concepts in grade 12 physics and calculus, then I don't think you should have a problem understanding any of the concepts in any course in the life sciences. The workload, particularly after first year, is just as light (perhaps lighter) than most arts programs. You can do well just from attending class (well, even that isn't necessary) and studying for the exams, at least for most life science classes.
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just a off topic question:
what is the difference between life science and
health science
and which has more chances
of you getting in a med school?
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vsp1990 wrote:just a off topic question:
what is the difference between life science and
health science
and which has more chances
of you getting in a med school? Life Sciences Program The Life Sciences program provides students, through a multi-disciplinary approach, the opportunity for students to study basic medical sciences, i.e., Anatomy and Cell Biology, Biochemistry, Community Health and Epidemiology, Microbiology and Immunology, Pathology, Pharmacology and Toxicology and Physiology. Interdisciplinary courses are offered in the third and fourth year following fundamental courses in biology, mathematics, physics and chemistry in the first year and specialized basic science discipline courses in the second and third year. During the final years of an honours degree, students may concentrate their studies in one of the basic sciences or specialize in an interdisciplinary theme such as neuroscience, cardiovascular sciences, reproductive biology, molecular biology, etc., by taking courses in several departments and/or integrated courses. Students may include certain courses offered by the Departments of Biology and Psychology to complement their studies. In addition, opportunity exists for a variety of elective courses freely chosen from any discipline including humanities and social sciences. Life science would prepare you for anything in science from as broad a range as lab scientist to anesthesiologist to geneticist toenvironmental scientist
Health Sciences It focuses on everything involving the body like diseases, bones, muscles, body processes... more of medicine. Health science would prepare you for a more specific field like pediatrician, optometrist, pharmacist- physicians
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:mattoilers wrote:Is it really hard to sutdy Life Science?? If you are able to comprehend some of the more complex concepts in grade 12 physics and calculus, then I don't think you should have a problem understanding any of the concepts in any course in the life sciences. The workload, particularly after first year, is just as light (perhaps lighter) than most arts programs. You can do well just from attending class (well, even that isn't necessary) and studying for the exams, at least for most life science classes. um....why do you say that? O__O Could it be that life sci has more to do with physics and calculus than I thought?? (i know that in first yr at least you have to take physics, but isn't that pretty much it?) Because I always hear people go "I'm so bad at physics...that's why I'm going to life sci and not engineering". Or are you simply comparing the level of comprehension required to understand the concepts in life sci? But even then, I don't see how that's comparible...since physics is physics, and, well, life sci is life sci. Please explain. 
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^ Yeah, I was comparing the level of concept difficulty. Nothing in life science requires the level of processing that is required to understand the theory of relativity or the interaction of point charges. It is kind of like comparing apples and oranges, but I would be surprised if someone is able to understand relativity but not cellular respiration. Physiology tends to have the most difficult concepts of any of the basic medical sciences, but that is probably because it has the most physics-y concepts.
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Since when do you have to take Physics?
At UTSG it goes like this:
Bio
Chem
Math (anything you want)
Elective
Elective
I'm not planning to take it personally.
For my two electives I'm taking:
Biology , Models & Mathematics (full year course)
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no physics...??!  awww man. I was kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to feel guilty about taking a course that will ruin my GPA.... ummm I feel SO stupid for asking this. but, where do you find which first yr courses are mandatory? I tried looking for it in the first year hand book, and googled it...but I couldn't find it. thanks.
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physics is mandatory for uw life sci (except for biology or biomed i think)
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bacon wrote:no physics...??! awww man. I was kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to feel guilty about taking a course that will ruin my GPA.... ummm I feel SO stupid for asking this. but, where do you find which first yr courses are mandatory? I tried looking for it in the first year hand book, and googled it...but I couldn't find it. thanks. Type "academic calendar" in the search box on the website of your university of choice.
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aww mann!!! even i'm confuzed rite now...i'm going into life sci too and i got into - u of t, uwo, mac, queens, nd york.....i can't choose nemore
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ Yeah, I was comparing the level of concept difficulty. Nothing in life science requires the level of processing that is required to understand the theory of relativity or the interaction of point charges. It is kind of like comparing apples and oranges, but I would be surprised if someone is able to understand relativity but not cellular respiration. Physiology tends to have the most difficult concepts of any of the basic medical sciences, but that is probably because it has the most physics-y concepts. Lol. I aced the relativity unit in physics. The concept made perfect logical sense once you got your head around it. Cellular respiration... jesus christ.. needless steps. why do we go through all the tiny steps and name each process?! Bahh memory! ( I bombed this unit) So I don't really understand it to this day. I mean what are all the little ions doing wandering and floating around in the middle of nowhere? And ATP Synthase? How the hell does that work... But they are apples and oranges.
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OP, if you are picking between Life Sciences (Math/CA not being considered), all those programs are about the same I think. Not that i've taken then at each school specifically, but they should offer you really similar academics. The differences would be in their numbers (students), location, and where you think you would fit in socially. The scholarships are great, but only factor them in if finances will be really tight for you. I would personally choose McMaster out of the three.
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tmhlee wrote:OP, if you are picking between Life Sciences (Math/CA not being considered), all those programs are about the same I think. Not that i've taken then at each school specifically, but they should offer you really similar academics.
The differences would be in their numbers (students), location, and where you think you would fit in socially.
The scholarships are great, but only factor them in if finances will be really tight for you.
I would personally choose McMaster out of the three. McMaster?? Hum. I wasn't really thinking about going into Mac because isn't mac. only popular for health sci? I had med 90 and got rejected from health sci. I guess my activities were poor cuz I only had 200 volunteering hrs, couple of skool sport teams, and tutoring students during lunch time for 2 years. I would definitely go to Mac if I was admitted into Health Sci but since I didn't make it in, I changed my mind from Mac to UW aiming for optometry. Since I was also admitted into Math/CA, it made much more difficult to choose. -.-;; But why do you recommend me to go to Mac, Life Sci.???? Is there any particular reason for that?
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tmhlee wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ Yeah, I was comparing the level of concept difficulty. Nothing in life science requires the level of processing that is required to understand the theory of relativity or the interaction of point charges. It is kind of like comparing apples and oranges, but I would be surprised if someone is able to understand relativity but not cellular respiration. Physiology tends to have the most difficult concepts of any of the basic medical sciences, but that is probably because it has the most physics-y concepts. Lol. I aced the relativity unit in physics. The concept made perfect logical sense once you got your head around it. Cellular respiration... jesus christ.. needless steps. why do we go through all the tiny steps and name each process?! Bahh memory! ( I bombed this unit) So I don't really understand it to this day. I mean what are all the little ions doing wandering and floating around in the middle of nowhere? And ATP Synthase? How the hell does that work... But they are apples and oranges. Ahhh, come on... It isn't that you are incapable of understanding that; your teacher just didn't explain it to you well enough. You have to remember that the mitochondrial intermembrane space is not just 'a liquid', it is already filled with a whole bunch of molecules and ions. The ETC just produces more H+ ions... their diffusion causes the repulsion of H+ ions near the ATP synthase into it, and that is when the magic happens... H+ ions flow down their concentration gradient and that powers ADP + P = ATP. Bingo! For sure biology requires a good memory, but the concepts are really pretty simple. What I just explained was diffusion simply applied to a certain scenario... if you are able to understand that molecules move from an area of high conc to an area of low conc, then you should be able to understand chemiosmosis.
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:tmhlee wrote:mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:^ Yeah, I was comparing the level of concept difficulty. Nothing in life science requires the level of processing that is required to understand the theory of relativity or the interaction of point charges. It is kind of like comparing apples and oranges, but I would be surprised if someone is able to understand relativity but not cellular respiration. Physiology tends to have the most difficult concepts of any of the basic medical sciences, but that is probably because it has the most physics-y concepts. Lol. I aced the relativity unit in physics. The concept made perfect logical sense once you got your head around it. Cellular respiration... jesus christ.. needless steps. why do we go through all the tiny steps and name each process?! Bahh memory! ( I bombed this unit) So I don't really understand it to this day. I mean what are all the little ions doing wandering and floating around in the middle of nowhere? And ATP Synthase? How the hell does that work... But they are apples and oranges. Ahhh, come on... It isn't that you are incapable of understanding that; your teacher just didn't explain it to you well enough. You have to remember that the mitochondrial intermembrane space is not just 'a liquid', it is already filled with a whole bunch of molecules and ions. The ETC just produces more H+ ions... their diffusion causes the repulsion of H+ ions near the ATP synthase into it, and that is when the magic happens... H+ ions flow down their concentration gradient and that powers ADP + P = ATP. Bingo! For sure biology requires a good memory, but the concepts are really pretty simple. What I just explained was diffusion simply applied to a certain scenario... if you are able to understand that molecules move from an area of high conc to an area of low conc, then you should be able to understand chemiosmosis. haha, thanks for the review. I will need it for the exam coming up. I guess I sort of get the general steps and what causes what, but that's about it. I will get stuck on one part and then I feel like none of the pieces fit in together. Like how the H+ gradient powers the ATP synthesis...I find that a hard concept; all I've been told is that a coupla H+ goes through the F1 particle and coupla ATP pop out. I think how my teacher taught it was just a brief overview and general summary, and I'm missing a whole chunk of information. But other people seem to just get it. I'll have to try and reteach myself this during the summer though
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bacon wrote:no physics...??! awww man. I was kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to feel guilty about taking a course that will ruin my GPA.... ummm I feel SO stupid for asking this. but, where do you find which first yr courses are mandatory? I tried looking for it in the first year hand book, and googled it...but I couldn't find it. thanks. UTSG sent a First-Year Handbook with their acceptance to me, months ago. I don't know if other schools do this.
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yeah the UTSG first yr hand book. that's the one I was talking about.
...when did you get accepted there anyway? I can still remember your angry rants about how you weren't offered a scholarship and how you got accepted for biology at some other campus but not the UTSG one...
:0 see you there next yr
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he probably applied to Trinity or Victoria college, which do require supps.
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