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Which scholarship is the most competitive, with the fewest awards? RBC, TD, others?
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I would throw Loran into the mix. TD is tough as well though
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Precisely what I would say... Loran and TD... TD only interviewed 67 out of 4500 this year... 20 of the 67 got the scholarship...
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joggler wrote:Which scholarship is the most competitive, with the fewest awards? RBC, TD, others? Well, I guess RBC going strictly by # of apps vs. awards. HOWEVER, if you look at TD winners (their bios online etc.) I think its cleat which scholarship is the toughest to get. That's why TD winners who apply to ANYTHING else, pretty much get it. They really are a step above the rest. Look at bio's of (and this isn't a hit on LORAN, its my honest observation) LORAN winners, you'll see maybe... an excellence at 1 sport. Or someone (and ya this was actually one of the winners) who's entire bio centered their ability to play a foreign instrument... Or someone who's very well rounded. And the TD winners have raised 10s to 100s of thousands of dollars for charitable efforts they've started. They've really gotten involved in their communities etc. They're also still well-rounded. Of course any of the school ones are also hard, and I'm sure at least comparable to a loran, rbc, etc.
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(now its me vs. hertz, who put loran in because he won it  ) ITS ON
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i've heard that the western national scholarship has one of the most difficult interview rounds---how true is this?
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I don't know about hardest.. and remember, harder interview and harder awards arent... the same. Anyway, I had two friends there, and they said some pretty unexpected and odd questions were asked. They both won (on second round of offers from what I can see), which is awesome. TO really know you'de have to look at quality of apps, quantity of apps., quantity of winners, and quality of winners. For instance, western has these wierd interviews, UT needs a large project (tough to impress a prof in that field...), Queen's has a large number of apps, ALL of which are sponsored (your pool is automatically 100% accomplished and deserving). UW I don't know, didn't apply. UBC I guess is hard for us ontarians cuz we live here (province pride etc).
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I would say that interview-based scholarships may actually be easier. The process to apply for something like Loran or Millennium is fairly time-consuming which weeds out a lot of applicants. Plus, if you are lucky to be granted an interview, you can at least let the person who is choosing get to know you a bit off of the paper, which doesn't happen usually with other scholarships. Essay contests are probably the hardest to win because normally there is only one or two prize, they know absolutely nothing about you so even someone who has not been involved in school can apply, and it's hard to distinguish yourself with a generic essay about a random topic than it is if you're writing about things you've done. That's just my opinion anyway.
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k. wrote:I would say that interview-based scholarships may actually be easier. The process to apply for something like Loran or Millennium is fairly time-consuming which weeds out a lot of applicants. Plus, if you are lucky to be granted an interview, you can at least let the person who is choosing get to know you a bit off of the paper, which doesn't happen usually with other scholarships. Essay contests are probably the hardest to win because normally there is only one or two prize, they know absolutely nothing about you so even someone who has not been involved in school can apply, and it's hard to distinguish yourself with a generic essay about a random topic than it is if you're writing about things you've done. That's just my opinion anyway. Well, for the Western National, there was a giant essay (about an actual topic, not about "why I deserve this award") and a giant form of extracurriculars, goals, volunteering, academics, etc. And THEN they called you in for an interview with lots of random questions about how you'd like to be remembered when you were dead and what sort of monument people would build to you...
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eco wrote:(now its me vs. hertz, who put loran in because he won it ) ITS ON Lol yes, and no. I could easily argue Loran is easier since I won it and not TD, but I'll be a fence-sitter and say they are both tough, but for different reasons. TD hands out fewer awards/applicants, but also has a less intensive interview process IMO. I won't discuss bios too much because each individual has accomplished a great deal in there lives but I know a few winners of each and all have been extremely worthy winners. With that being said, here's a quote from one of the winner's of TD last year that I tend to agree with: "The scholarships are actually quite different from what I hear - CMSF (Loran) is looking for a more well-rounded "scholar" who's got the brains to do some high-profile stuff, whereas TD isn't too focused on the academics but more on the community activism, and representing TD as a 'good citizen'. That's why most people usually fit in one or the other categories, and a select few are good for both scholarships." I don't consider university specific scholarships like Western's National to be as tough as TD or Loran simply because there are not the huge number of qualified applicants from across the entire nation like there is for non-university specific ones.
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I realise but all the winners of both are great. It's just that.. loran really confuses me. With regard to me and people I know, I have a bad experience, so thats why I say bad things, I don't mean to offend you, I can tell from what you;ve said that u deserve it.
Maybe LORAN is REALLLLY bad at writing up these bios, but when you go on, and read them, you really do seem to be reading about nearly average kids... Someone's main thing will be... I play on my rugby team. Or, I play piano. Like, it just really confuses me what their process is. I know a guy who had an interview from the main pool, who has a decent resume. He's an alright kid... doesn't really stand out. After I heard I didn't even have a regional interview, I hopped on the site and read bios. WINNERS played on teams, where I started and coached teams, they participated where I lead... maybe I got a bad wrap, I don't know, but after getting results from so many others, the fact that loran didn't even see me in that top few hundred or w/e it was, strikes me as.. wierd...
Anyway, that's why I thought hands down TD, because they have interviews too, just like loran, but they interview far fewer, and choose fewer, and by reading bios, they really stood out. Wish I was a TD winner lol
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eco wrote:I realise but all the winners of both are great. It's just that.. loran really confuses me. With regard to me and people I know, I have a bad experience, so thats why I say bad things, I don't mean to offend you, I can tell from what you;ve said that u deserve it. None taken, and I understand the frustration. It's been said on previous threads that big part of being shorlisted is simply catching a break, some days the puck hits the post, others it hits the post and goes in. Quote: Maybe LORAN is REALLLLY bad at writing up these bios, but when you go on, and read them, you really do seem to be reading about nearly average kids... If your looking for the big scale go-getters, TD winners are in this category. If your looking for well-rounded students that do a little of everything and come across professional in an interview and show academic promise, Loran winners are more like that. Loran bios are ususally shorter and I'll be the first to admit, might not be as impressive on paper. Quote:Someone's main thing will be... I play on my rugby team. Or, I play piano. Like, it just really confuses me what their process is. I know a guy who had an interview from the main pool, who has a decent resume. He's an alright kid... doesn't really stand out. After I heard I didn't even have a regional interview, I hopped on the site and read bios. WINNERS played on teams, where I started and coached teams, they participated where I lead... maybe I got a bad wrap, I don't know, but after getting results from so many others, the fact that loran didn't even see me in that top few hundred or w/e it was, strikes me as.. wierd... The toughest part of Loran is actually getting an interview. After that, much more is based on your personality than your accomplishments. I can't comment as to whether TD is the same way or not because I didn't get that far with them. However I will say this, until you actually meet a person I don't feel that you can truly judge whether they are more or less deserving than anyone else. That doesn't matter what scholarship were talking about, I maintain that feeling. Quote: Anyway, that's why I thought hands down TD, because they have interviews too, just like loran, but they interview far fewer, and choose fewer, and by reading bios, they really stood out. Wish I was a TD winner lol TD has their benefits, so does Loran. I KNOW that the community forged in the Loran program is quite a bit stronger than TD winners though. My thoughts anyway...
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Ya it def. is. I know you can't fully judge without meeting them, but then, that's the only way to judge at all, and judge I will! haha
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