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anniepoohh wrote:nothing wrong with a little pride on oneself There is something wrong with arrogance however. It's so annoying living in Alberta because that nonsense is in the air all the time. We Albertans aren't superior to shag all, so we should stop acting like it.
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There are different degrees for different reasons, and if any of them couldn't be useful, they wouldn't exist, and they wouldn't have students trying to earn them.
Let me put it into terms that some engineering students would understand.
So you have this structure right? Each piece is a vital part to the structure. If you remove one piece from the structure it will fall apart.
In other words, each area of study, whether it be, Science, Business, Arts, Engineering, Math, Fine Arts, etc provide society's 'structure.' Remove one piece of the structure...and the rest of it would be useless.
Does this make sense?
Success is not the key to happiness, happiness is the key to success. If you love what you do in life, you will be a success!!
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JessBee wrote:Stringer wrote:JessBee wrote:Miss wrote:Um, you've forgotten this fact: Artsies only see numbers in statistics/scientific facts. science majors observe and record them. Engineers can create them.
p.s. yeah, dont' take this thread too seriously, it's under School Spirit. p.p.s. We <3 you arts and humanities majors too. Without you, there wouldn't be nearly half as many people to make fun of. And I think we can all agree that business majors are sellouts. I agree that this thread should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but I think labelling Arts students as something to make fun of is unfair. Why are liberal Arts students something to laugh at? The graduate with a Science degree asks, 'Why does it work?' The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, 'How does it work?' The graduate with a Business degree asks, 'How can I profit from it?' The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, 'Do you want fries with that?' Wow, arrogant much? It's a joke, rooted in reality.
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Stringer wrote: The graduate with a Science degree asks, 'Why does it work?' The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, 'How does it work?' The graduate with a Business degree asks, 'How can I profit from it?' The graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, 'Do you want fries with that?'
AHAAAAHAHA! I'm going in for English and even find that funny. Becuase it's true. ... at least for the many who choose Arts just for an easier credit (seemingly most of them). At the Staples I work at, the former Furniture Associate (now in Head Office) has an English degree, and one of the managers has a Political Science degree.. ...hearing about both of those people made me kind of sad. But that's why I'm going to live in Ottawa. Network network network in order to do SOMETHING English-RELATED with my ENGLISH degree..  I'll probably have to aim for Masters though.
~~~Accepted offer to Ba Honors English @ Carleton Univerity, Ottawa  ~~~
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JessBee wrote:anniepoohh wrote:nothing wrong with a little pride on oneself There is something wrong with arrogance however. It's so annoying living in Alberta because that nonsense is in the air all the time. We Albertans aren't superior to shag all, so we should stop acting like it. Traitor! To the gallows you go! Alberta rules all.
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alys98 wrote:In other words, each area of study, whether it be, Science, Business, Arts, Engineering, Math, Fine Arts, etc provide society's 'structure.' Remove one piece of the structure...and the rest of it would be useless.
Does this make sense? Embellishment is not structure.
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mcgillguy88 wrote:alys98 wrote:In other words, each area of study, whether it be, Science, Business, Arts, Engineering, Math, Fine Arts, etc provide society's 'structure.' Remove one piece of the structure...and the rest of it would be useless.
Does this make sense? Embellishment is not structure. Everything is embellishment in human terms. It's nature. Acceptances to: McMaster University Biochemistry & Biomedical Sciences University of Waterloo Life Science Coop University of Toronto Life Science York University Biology
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ScienceBoy12 wrote:Everything is embellishment in human terms. It's nature. Everything is a superfluous or extraneous detail in human terms? Explain.
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mcgillguy88, can you explain to me whether and how engineering could exist as a discipline without the fundamental identities proven and discovered by mathematicians that engineers are so heavily dependent upon? This is not to say that engineering is less worthy than math because it uses something that mathematicians create (and in fact, its purpose lies in its practical application of mathematics). you need to understand that the 'core' areas of study---math, science, engineering, and social sciences, are all fundamental and cannot be done without in a functioning society.
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Redrose27 wrote:mcgillguy88, can you explain to me whether and how engineering could exist as a discipline without the fundamental identities proven and discovered by mathematicians that engineers are so heavily dependent upon? This is not to say that engineering is less worthy than math because it uses something that mathematicians create (and in fact, its purpose lies in its practical application of mathematics). you need to understand that the 'core' areas of study---math, science, engineering, and social sciences, are all fundamental and cannot be done without in a functioning society. Redrose.. Just let me say, I may be one of those arrogant, self centered, faculty loving engineers but even I can respect the importance of pure math and all it has done for the application and use in my faculty. Don't stereotype us all based on my overzealous friend Mcgillguy88..
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Redrose27 wrote:mcgillguy88, can you explain to me whether and how engineering could exist as a discipline without the fundamental identities proven and discovered by mathematicians that engineers are so heavily dependent upon? This is not to say that engineering is less worthy than math because it uses something that mathematicians create (and in fact, its purpose lies in its practical application of mathematics). you need to understand that the 'core' areas of study---math, science, engineering, and social sciences, are all fundamental and cannot be done without in a functioning society. Oh engineering wouldn't exist without math. But a lot of pure math has no direct application to engineering, and many methods used by engineers simply because they work have been rejected by mathematicians as lacking rigour.
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NEM99 wrote:Don't stereotype us all based on my overzealous friend Mcgillguy88.. Actually, you shouldn't stereotype me based on what I write in this thread either. It's like frosh - the three days a year it is socially unacceptable to not be a bigot about your faculty, even though you'll later laugh about how stupid all of the name-calling was. 
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do u know that this guy (aj or something) got fired after HR at his firm found out about the video? true story. LOL.
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Elusive wrote:do u know that this guy (aj or something) got fired after HR at his firm found out about the video? true story. LOL. Yes. Having videos like that floating around obviously doesn't help a banks image.
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mcgillguy88 wrote:Bassoony wrote:I could launch into some great long explanation about why music is the heart of mankind and all that junk, but I'm not drunk or high right now, so I got nothin'. Just keep in mind that if you build a really super-fancy theatre, you need people to perform in it. If you build a centre for treating X terminal disease, chances are pretty good it'll be planned to include some kind of music therapy area. If you're trying to impress your boss so you can move into a slightly bigger cubicle (maybe one day you'll have one near a window!), you might invite him to dinner and allow him to admire the print of a Matisse painting hanging over your mantle before you serve him a meal on your best china (hand-painted, and made in a tradition that has been alive for centuries) with the soothing sounds of Mozart or light jazz in the background. Or maybe you'll take him out to a ballet and allow the music of Tchaikovsky and the brilliant moves of the highly trained dances win him over. Afterwards, you'll go home and watch your favourite movie on TV.. and I'm not even going to list all of the "arts kids" who were involved in the production, advertising, and creating of that.
"which is best?? I rock because I go here and blah blah blah LOVE ME" threads make me angry. You know, the problem with those Arts kids in production is when they spoil the sci-fi shows. E.g., Star Trek writers seem to think the word tachyon can be used to sex up anything. And there was this one episode where a device changes the law of probability and they find that out because a vast majority of the neutrinos are spinning one way (instead of 50-50). Guess what? A vast majority of neutrinos do spin one way in nature. As in, 100% of neutrinos are left-handed. Spoilt the episode. Forgive my snobbiness, but I don't see the people who produse Star Trek as being highly artistic. They're clearly really good at what they do, I have no idea and can't bring myself to care if they know what they're talking about or not, but it's just not "high art". Not to say it doesn't have entertainment value for many, many people... but yeah. I'm a snob, basically.
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alys98 wrote:There are different degrees for different reasons, and if any of them couldn't be useful, they wouldn't exist, and they wouldn't have students trying to earn them.
Let me put it into terms that some engineering students would understand.
So you have this structure right? Each piece is a vital part to the structure. If you remove one piece from the structure it will fall apart.
In other words, each area of study, whether it be, Science, Business, Arts, Engineering, Math, Fine Arts, etc provide society's 'structure.' Remove one piece of the structure...and the rest of it would be useless.
Does this make sense? You're thinking into it too much. The question wasn't "which faculty is the most important in our advanced society today?"; it was "which is the best faculty?" End of. Besides, if the faculties were such a structure, science (including math) and engineering would be the foundation, business would be the building itself, and the arts and social sciences would be like the spires at the top that are there solely for the purpose of decoration (and may, in some cases, serve a function).
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Bassoony wrote:They're clearly really good at what they do, I have no idea and can't bring myself to care if they know what they're talking about or not, but it's just not "high art". Not to say it doesn't have entertainment value for many, many people... but yeah. I'm a snob, basically. So ... what's your point?
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Yeah, yeah, whatever. Arts rules. You know it. I know it. Deal with it.
I'm taking my arts degree and I'm going to mold young minds! Children are the future of the world and therefore I will have a stake in it! Mwahaha! Okay, I'm done.
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Tasha wrote:Yeah, yeah, whatever. Arts rules. You know it. I know it. Deal with it.
I'm taking my arts degree and I'm going to mold young minds! Children are the future of the world and therefore I will have a stake in it! Mwahaha! Okay, I'm done. This made me smile. Finally, someone confesses to their evil dictator ambitions. Welcome to the club. *evil, resounding laughter*
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mcgillguy88 wrote:Bassoony wrote:They're clearly really good at what they do, I have no idea and can't bring myself to care if they know what they're talking about or not, but it's just not "high art". Not to say it doesn't have entertainment value for many, many people... but yeah. I'm a snob, basically. So ... what's your point? ...wait, we have to have a POINT to post on this thread? Well gosh-darn it all, I thought we were all just putting each other down for fun!
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