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Uhm, teachers are real people, too? Options
malilini
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:35:58 PM

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Who knew?!

I kid, I kid.

So, I was just browsing through Facebook doing my homework for tomorrow, and went sort of off-tangent on an exploration of other people's contacts. (Do people do that, or am I a stalker?). Ten minutes later, while scrolling down a friend's contact list, I see this display picture with three ladies, mid-thirties, obviously having a ball. They seem familiar, so I look closer and I know the last name of the person sounds familiar. Few minutes of staring later, I realize my math, theatre, and music teachers are amidst something resembling a drinking binge, and *gasp* one of them has a Facebook profile. To stalk even more, I look at her friends and find 3/4 of my schools faculty on there.

Now, I'm utterly confused as I'm trying to digest the fact that these people have real lives outside of their classrooms. Do you guys also forget about that fact every once in a while (read: all the time)? It's difficult thinking of the calculus-monster as a guy who at the same time has a family and a really pretty wife (the stalking was clearly fruitful) and probably a myriad of other things to do in life next to teaching us calc.

And, on another note, do you believe that teachers should maintain some form of a traditional persona on the Internet? While most of the teach's I saw there were pretty decent, there was a sociology teacher in swimshorts in a pool hugging his equally poorly dressed girlfriend; another math teacher in a rather inappropriate position; and a few others controversial ones. Most of us, obviously, think it's okay when students are sexually suggestive in their profiles, but does the same go for teachers, especially when there is a high chance that his/her students will bump into the profile? It depends very much on the student, but really, high school students are not known for their maturity.

Would like to know your opinions smile

mynameismattgotmlgo
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:53:26 PM
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Facebook should be for post-secondary students only... just like it used to be. None of this myspace pedo, cheap stalker BS.

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bigbadsheep
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:02:18 PM

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Teaching is a job, it's not their life. Why does it matter if they have Facebook? I know teachers at my school who added students while they were still in school (kinda unprofessional IMO), but now that they've moved on to post-sec, it's a good way to stay in touch. I've added teachers and coaches, it's not really a big deal.

If it affects you that much don't stalk your friends and your friends' friends?

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Stringer
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:03:13 PM

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If you leave your profile open to be viewed by anybody, you are setting yourself up for problems. Set it to private.

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malilini
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:10:32 PM

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bigbadsheep wrote:

If it affects you that much don't stalk your friends and your friends' friends?


I colourfully embellished a large part of my "affectness". I, personally, don't care. I'm done with them in a month anyways. Not good taking things too literally, particularly on a forum smile

My point was simply that we often forget about the "realness" of teachers. We get too caught-up in thinking about all the evil term-papers, tests, and assignments they give us, to be able to give them some human characteristics.

It's just one of those things in life that fly over your head all the time.

bigbadsheep
Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:34:39 PM

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^ LOL I was just going by the information you had provided.
Anyway, I know what you mean. Like with my coaches, its weird having them on my friends list and then going to a practice and having them yell at me lol.

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TaintedKane
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:56:23 AM

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My teacher has been away for 2 weeks because her mother is dying and she might go soon. soo that made us think.

Also I am buddies with a teacher =P He invited me to a concert once and a hockey game. He just had a kid so yeah some teachers are awesome and have lifes

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D.Dickin
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:52:16 AM

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I don't understand what the problem is. People always have lives outside of being managers, students, teachers, musicians, salesmen, and volunteers, so your shock about teachers having lives isn't a valid one.

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bigbadsheep
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:30:17 PM

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D.Dickin wrote:
I don't understand what the problem is. People always have lives outside of being managers, students, teachers, musicians, salesmen, and volunteers, so your shock about teachers having lives isn't a valid one.

It's because of the position that you hold teachers in as compared to other professions. Yes, it's just another job, but to their students, a teacher is a person in authority who we rarely see outside of that position, so we fall into thinking that they are like that 24/7 since it's all we know about them.

I'm not going to say I wasn't a bit shocked when I went back to visit my high school a couple weeks after I left, and one of my teachers who I talked to alot in school told me to give him a call when I get back in town from university next September and we'd go out for a few beers and talk about uni life and stresses lol.

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gundam501
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:18:06 PM
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Teachers letting too much of their private life become public on the net are really kinda just asking for trouble.. we've all read stories of the teacher getting sacked over this or that... it always catches up to you.. its not like they really NEED to have facebook, but if they would like it, they should just use prudence when deciding what image to display.. especially when $30 000 /year depends on it...
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:19:32 PM

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gundam501 wrote:
Teachers letting too much of their private life become public on the net are really kinda just asking for trouble.. we've all read stories of the teacher getting sacked over this or that... it always catches up to you.. its not like they really NEED to have facebook, but if they would like it, they should just use prudence when deciding what image to display.. especially when $30 000 /year depends on it...


$30,000/year? I don't know much about teacher salaries but if that is true...wow being a teacher is terrible.

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fleurdelacour
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:36:55 PM

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Stringer wrote:
gundam501 wrote:
Teachers letting too much of their private life become public on the net are really kinda just asking for trouble.. we've all read stories of the teacher getting sacked over this or that... it always catches up to you.. its not like they really NEED to have facebook, but if they would like it, they should just use prudence when deciding what image to display.. especially when $30 000 /year depends on it...


$30,000/year? I don't know much about teacher salaries but if that is true...wow being a teacher is terrible.


teachers make far more than that, I assure you.
Even the bottom of the pay grid is over $30,000.

And they earn that money too, let me tell you! Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work!

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malilini
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:54:44 PM

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fleurdelacour wrote:
Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work!


Which part of "spending 8 hours per day every day with little brats or, worse, adolescents" sounds easy? I applaud them big grin
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:34:29 PM

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malilini wrote:
fleurdelacour wrote:
Being a teacher might sound easy but it is hard work!


Which part of "spending 8 hours per day every day with little brats or, worse, adolescents" sounds easy? I applaud them big grin


The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work...

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malilini
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:06:53 PM

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Stringer wrote:

The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work...


Okay, summers yes, but they don't get paid during the break. They get a paycheck, but it's the money earned over months they work (9 and a half, 10) divided equally into 12 months.
So it's technically unpaid leave with different distribution.

No take-home work? How about marking things? Preparing for class? The higher the level of teaching, the more involved it is, but that's also where "the money" is. Sort of. Still poor.

It's much harder than people are lead to believe. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's neurosurgery teaching kids math and history, but it's not as easy as people tend to assume.
megs67
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:13:57 PM

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malilini wrote:
Stringer wrote:

The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work...


Okay, summers yes, but they don't get paid during the break. They get a paycheck, but it's the money earned over months they work (9 and a half, 10) divided equally into 12 months.
So it's technically unpaid leave with different distribution.


That's still much better than other school board employees who don't get paid for the summer. Teachers have it better than they make out.
Stringer
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:46:46 PM

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malilini wrote:
Stringer wrote:

The part where you get summers and weekends off and have barely any take home work...


Okay, summers yes, but they don't get paid during the break. They get a paycheck, but it's the money earned over months they work (9 and a half, 10) divided equally into 12 months.
So it's technically unpaid leave with different distribution.

No take-home work? How about marking things? Preparing for class? The higher the level of teaching, the more involved it is, but that's also where "the money" is. Sort of. Still poor.

It's much harder than people are lead to believe. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's neurosurgery teaching kids math and history, but it's not as easy as people tend to assume.


Most marking and preparation can be done during the teacher's "spares". You won't find many jobs that give weekends off, holidays off, plus things like "March Break", and summers off. Heck, teachers probably only work like 1/2 the year when it's all said and done.

-Stringer
zmike
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:13:08 PM
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all I can say is rofl.
codyhotel
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:51:05 PM
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When my brother was in grade twelve the high school got a new teacher who had just got out of uni, so he was like 23 i think, they all hung out with him outside of the school, went to the bar, I went to a concert with him once. He's actually getting married to one of my bro's friends at the end of this month, he never actually taught her in a class, but its still kind of weird. but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students. but hes like the coolest guy ever, so its okay. whenever we see him outside of school we hang out.

I'm great friends with a bunch of our teachers in and out of school, makes life easier.
bigbadsheep
Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:06:21 PM

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codyhotel wrote:
but not as weird as our 40 year old band teacher marrying and having a kid with one of his former 22 year old students.

OOOOOOKAY, definitely crossed the line on that one. Not only is there an 18 year age difference, the fact that he was her teacher. *shudder*pale

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